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Lauren Boebert's new book is out!!

Trump-Era Deregulation Deemed a Key Culprit in the Failure of Silicon Valley Bank (commondreams.org)

Mathew, How credible is Russian state media, in your opinion? 🤓 Admittedly, we have our own M$M problem in the U.S., but here's how Putin's propagandists have been reporting in Russia on their invasion of Ukraine. This is as Orwellian as it gets.

Chris, It would be a shame to delete some of the old educational commentaries on this thread -- by James DiEugenio, et.al. Not to mention works of considerable literary merit, like my 2022 limerick, Our Trans-Atlantic Pal, Chrissy. 🤓 Our trans-Atlantic pal, Chrissy, on occasion, was churlish and prissy. A most sensitive Brit, he'd, at times, throw a fit, of the kind that are often called, "hissy."

Leslie, To give you the back story, Ben Cole is the guy who has been claiming for the past year that Chansley is the key figure in Trump's J6 coup attempt-- while the rest of us, including the J6 Committee, have focused on Donald Trump and his coup co-conspirators, viewing Chansley as a minor, peripheral character in Trump's J6 travesty. So, it's not surprising that Ben, Mathew Koch, John Cotter, Paul Rigby, et.al., have embraced Tucker Carlson's false J6 narrative focusing on Chansley, while assiduously avoiding Politifacts detailed debunking of Carlson's narrative. This has always been Ben's modus operandi-- dodging the contrary evidence that debunks his paradigm.

Exhibit A. Not a single comment or rebuttal from our Coalition of the Clueless during the past 12 hours about this detailed Politifact fact-check and debunking of Tucker Carlson's J6 narrative on Fox. Instead, we have witnessed another entire page of MAGA spam by Mathew Koch, Paul Rigby, Ben Cole, and John Cotter in support of Tucker's false narrative-- including an endorsement of Tucker by his shill, Naomi Wolf.

Newsflash, Koch. Non-scientist Naomi Wolf sold out to Faux News, like Glenn Greenwald. Naomi Wolf Was a Feminist Icon. Now She’s an Anti-Vaxxer Banned by Twitter | The New Republic

Fred Wertheimer published an excellent op-ed today about Tucker Carlson's false, revisionist J6 swindle. I'm guessing that the guys in our Coalition of the Clueless don't even know who Fred Wertheimer is. Opinion | The Tucker Carlson-Led Effort to Whitewash the History of January 6 Will Fail | Common Dreams

Mark, Sandy & Kathy, This thread should either be deleted, or re-named the, "Education Forum MAGA Spam Thread." We're now seeing multiple entire pages of daily MAGA spam, in lieu of rational, evidence-based dialogues. I notice that Paul Rigby has even posted a lengthy disinformation blog by disgraced Fox News sell-out, Naomi Wolf, in support of Tucker Carlson's false, revisionist history of Trump's J6 coup attempt. Ben Cole was thrilled. Forget Trump, Eastman, Chris Miller and Lt. Gen. Charles Flynn. J6 was, obviously, Nancy Pelosi's fault. Nancy, evidently, wanted to make Trump look bad by having the Capitol ransacked to disrupt Biden's election certification. Geez... What has happened to this thread is a real pity... 🙄

PolitiFact | Evidence rebuts Tucker Carlson’s claim about Capitol Police acting as tour guides to ‘QAnon Shaman’

Well I'm shocked to see that perennially clueless Ben Cole is still blaming Nancy Pelosi for the lack of adequate Capitol security on January 6th... Geez... Way to go, Ben! 🙄 This is what happens when someone adamantly refuses to study the evidence debunking their fixed delusions. I will refer Ben to the history of Capitol Police Chief Sund's desperate efforts to have National Guard troops deployed to the Capitol, and Trump's flying monkeys at the Pentagon-- Secretary of Defense Chris Miller, Lt. Gen. Charles Flynn, and Lt. Gen. Walter Piatt-- blocking Sund's requests, and later lying about their obstruction of security. The Official and Unofficial Timeline of Defense Department Actions on January 6 (justsecurity.org)

Leslie, I'm only six feet tall, and an amateur historian, like most of us here. There are a few "giants" on this forum, but I'm not one of them. (And most of the "giants" on the forum have avoided this thread lately.) Honestly, we had higher quality discussions about history and current events here until about a year ago, when the forum was invaded by some denizens of the Fox MAGA-verse. Since then, most of the discussions have focused on trying to clean up the non-stop MAGA disinformazia.

Leslie, Excellent refutations of John Cotter and our Coalition of the Clueless. You may not know that these guys-- including Mathew Koch and Ben Cole-- adamantly refused to watch the Congressional J6 hearings last year, which is one reason why they have been so easily suckered by Tucker Carlson's false revisionist history of J6. John Cotter doesn't seem to know that the Congressional J6 investigation focused mainly on Donald Trump and his Willard Hotel cabal. The Committee did question one Capitol attacker in detail-- the young cabinet maker from Ohio who greatly regretted the fact that Fox News and Trump had lied to him about their Stop the Steal scam. Chansley is, at most, a right wing coup denier's straw man-- a logical subject for Tucker Carlson's (and Benjamin Cole's) false revisionist history of J6. I should also warn you that John Cotter's modus operandi in debates is to misquote and misrepresent what people have written, then claim that he has "refuted" them. When all else fails, he ignores the rebuttals of his poorly informed arguments. You go, girl!

Nonsense, John. Did you even watch the J6 Committee hearings last year? What scapegoating of Chansley by the Committee are you referring to? I must have missed that. Most of the Congressional hearings focused on Trump staffers testifying about the actions of Don Mar-a-Lago and his associates before and during the violent attack on Congress. Once again, you are obfuscating arseways with meaningless verbiage.

It looks like Leslie Sharp is countering the Firehose of Falsehoods from Mathew Koch and our Coalition of the Clueless with a Firehose of Facts about Trump's J6 coup attempt. Meanwhile, I'm still waiting for Mathew's cognitive dissonance to kick in, once he realizes that Tucker Carlson "hates Trump passionately." Perhaps it already has, and Mathew is responding by repeatedly posting Tucker YouTube clips. 🙄

Well, since Mathew Koch has now resorted to posting duplicate Tucker Carlson "news" clips, I may as well announce that this year's Frozen Dead Guy Days festival has been moved to Estes Park, Colorado. The festival has been celebrated for years in the Colorado mountain town of Nederland, in honor of a dead Norwegian guy who has been cryogenically preserved in a Nederland shed for many years. The owners of the Stanley Hotel convinced the Nederland community to move the festival to Estes. Events include festive team coffin races and diving into ice water. I think this is what Ben and John Cotter are talking about in terms of Western democracies going to hell. www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/family/festival-weekend-in-estes-park-frozen-dead-guy/vi-AA18ohnn?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=7af1fd48

What we are witnessing now from our Coalition of the Clueless is the "Firehose of Falsehoods" approach to "rational dialogue" -- spamming the board with too much non-stop nonsense to debunk. I did have a good laugh reading Chris Barnard's bizarre claim that I learned about the Dunning Kruger effect from him. Chris is a veritable legend in his own mind.

Yeah, Matt, the Dunning-Kruger twins have, certainly, been busy-- probably too busy to listen to Al Franken's commentary on this week's Tucker Carlson/Kevin McCarthy BS. 'Complete bull': Franken demolishes McCarthy for Tucker’s January 6 propaganda

Mark, This is false equivalence. There is, in fact, a fundamental difference in the veracity of claims made by those of us who are responding to the MAGA/Fox News disinformation here, and the MAGA spam itself. It's not simply a food fight in which both sides are equally guilty of flinging offal. (For the record, I get my "news" from most of the same sources you do, including Axios. I don't watch MSNBC, Fox, CNN, or any televised news.) Case in point. Anyone who has studied the facts about Trump's January 6th coup attempt knows that Tucker Carlson's recent revisionist history of J6 -- and selective use of film clips-- is bunk. Yet, we have had several pages of MAGA spam here this week extolling Tucker's BS, replete with comments from poorly informed members like Chris Barnard and John Cotter about how we Americans were duped into believing that the Trump MAGA mob had engaged in a violent attempt to obstruct the certification of Biden's election on January 6th! It's complete nonsense by our verbose Coalition of the Clueless-- Mathew Koch, Benjamin Cole, Chris Barnard, and John Cotter. In contrast, I have attempted this week to post some of the contrary evidence debunking Tucker Carlson's false revisionist history of January 6th. You are correct in pointing out that the Coalition of the Clueless is not really interested in studying the contrary evidence about J6, as we have seen in Benjamin Cole's case during the past year. For my part, I'm tired of trying to correct the fixed delusions of the MAGA/Fox crowd around here. Kirk, Matt Allison, and others have tried, without success. Confirmation bias is a bitch. "A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest."

Ron, Thanks for sharing... 😂 I had never heard of the Englishman, Roland-the-Farter, but it seems entirely possible that Chris Barnard might be one of his British descendants.

Get a clue, Mathew. You continue to misquote and misrepresent what other people have posted here-- a bad habit that you share with Ben Cole, Chris Barnard, and John Cotter. In response to your page-and-a-half of MAGA spam extolling Tucker Carlson's false revisionist history of J6, I have posted several references here during the past 30+ hours, including; 1) Congressional J6 Committee film footage of the violent attack on the U.S. Capitol. 2) Detailed criticism of Tucker Carlson's false history by the Chief of the Capitol Police. 3) Criticism of Carlson's false history by Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell. I have also documented, along with others, the deliberate lies of Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity, and others at Fox, about Trump's Stop-the-Steal scam.

Chris? Where did you go?

Geez...and just like that Mathew Koch ignores the detailed debunking today of his Tucker Carlson J6 cover up to post an inaccurate non sequitur about COVID. Way to go, Mathew!! Skip the "rational dialogue" and change the subject, eh? But why is your latest deflection inaccurate? I'll tell you. I never bought, or espoused, the narrative that COVID-19 wasn't a lab leak. In fact, I suspected from the beginning of the pandemic that the virus may have leaked from the virology lab in Wuhan. The proximity was suspicious. MAGA spammer Mathew Koch strikes out again!!

Chris, If you knew anything about American history, media, and politics, you would realize that this is a perfectly apt description of the delusional Trump/Fox/GOP cult in the U.S. today. Are you still unaware that Rupert Murdoch and the talking heads at Fox News admitted in their recent Dominion depositions that they had knowingly lied to the American public about Trump's Stop the Steal scam? Have you still not realized that Tucker Carlson selectively released J6 film clips to mislead the American public about Trump's violent J6 coup attempt? You're 0-for-2.