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I think we may see a replay of 2011 this year, when the GOP Tea Party House held the country hostage by refusing to raise the debt ceiling for Obama, (after raising the debt ceiling seven times for Bush & Cheney.) In like manner, these same House Republicans raised the debt ceiling three times for Trump, while giving $2 trillion in tax cuts to billionaires and corporations. And they are, apparently, willing to sabotage the U.S. economy in order to sabotage Biden.

Larry Silverstein collected $4.5 billion from a consortium of insurance companies for the WTC1, WTC2, and WTC7 demolitions, yet no forensic arson investigation was ever conducted. Silverstein was awarded the long-term lease for the WTC Twin Towers by the Port Authority in July of 2001. He controlled access to the WTC during the weeks preceding 9/11. He had always owned WTC7-- the 47-floor skyscraper near the Twin Towers that collapsed in an expert, free fall demolition late in the day on 9/11. In a subsequent interview, Silverstein said that he had spoken to the NYFD about WTC7 on 9/11, and that he "told them to pull it." * But the NYFD denied any role in demolishing WTC7. Who "pulled it" for Silverstein? Bush & Cheney's NIST fraudsters later claimed that the abrupt free fall collapse of WTC7 was a result of office fires. But they offered no scientific explanation for the total, free fall collapse. Their "model" only described, at best, a partial asymmetrical collapse of an upper floor of WTC7-- not the observed free fall collapse of the entire building. And a partial upper story collapse of WTC7 is not seen on film. Instead, the distance between upper floors remains constant as the entire 47-floor structure abruptly collapses in an expert demolition.** * ** 911 WTC 7 Collapse with Dan Rather commentary - YouTube

Yeah, Ron, Aspen was remote in the early 60s, and Vail was undeveloped. Colorado was a vast wilderness area in those days. I had to look this one up-- they didn't pave Independence Pass until 1967. (They finally paved Cottonwood Pass a few years ago.) As for Texas swing, I missed Bob Wills Day yesterday, but here's Ron Wood playing pedal steel on a Rolling Stones' cover of Bob Wills Is Still the King. They aren't exactly the Texas Playboys, but the Stones got the basic, sh*t-kicking Texas swing right.

Here's a morbid question. Given what we know about Wayne January, the CIA, and the Kennedy family, will RFK, Jr. be murdered, in the event that he becomes a bona fide contender for the Democratic nomination? I'm reminded of Jackie Kennedy urging Bobby not to run in '68.

No. Yes. My father's battalion (the U.S. 753rd Tank Battalion) helped to liberate the N-a-z-i concentration camp at Lohr, Germany in 1945. What do the Moon landing and Holocaust denial conspiracy theories have to do with the JFKA and 9/11 research? Explain. Is this related to your exploding refrigerator theory about the Twin Tower demolitions?

Geez... Can't make this stuff up... 🙄 House Republicans Voted to Raise Taxes by $300 Billion April 29, 2023 at 9:29 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 33 Comments Wall Street Journal: “The party, united for decades around the view that net tax increases are unacceptable, on Wednesday advanced debt-ceiling legislation that would raise taxes by more than $300 billion over a decade, according to official congressional estimates.” “The bill, which passed in the GOP-controlled House and won’t survive the Democratic-led Senate, would repeal clean-energy tax credits that Congress created last year. The changes would shrink breaks for wind energy, solar power, hydrogen and electric vehicles, effectively raising taxes on some manufacturers, car buyers and others.”

Pat, There's nothing inaccurate about the story of the five "dancing" Israelis arrested near Giants Stadium in Rutherford, N.J. on 9/11 after witnesses saw them filming and celebrating the WTC demolitions near Liberty State Park and called the police. It happened. Five Israelis were seen filming as jet liners ploughed into the Twin Towers on September 11, 2001 ... | HeraldScotland The five young men were arrested on 9/11 and imprisoned by the FBI for 70 days, before being released to Israel. The five later appeared on Israeli television and told the audience that they were in New Jersey on the morning of 9/11 to "document the event." The FBI later released some of their film-- after an FOIA filing-- showing the young men holding up cigarette lighters and celebrating the demolitions of the Twin Towers. They were, apparently, working prior to 9/11 for an Israeli citizen named Dominick Suter at a company in Weehawken, N.J. called Urban Moving Systems. Suter fled to Israel after his five employees were arrested on 9/11, before he could be questioned by the FBI.

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Michael Griffith has used this defamatory propaganda technique more than once-- falsely claiming that scientists and engineers studying the 9/11 WTC demolitions are similar to Moon Landing conspiracy theorists or Holocaust Deniers. It's bunk. We all know that some "conspiracy theories" are kooky and some are accurate theories about facts. Conspiracy theories aren't monolithic.

More bunk. Post a reference for your ridiculous claim that "scientists" have "debunked" the scientific data of the Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth proving that WTC1, WTC2, WTC7 were explosively demolished. It doesn't exist. It's like claiming that scientists have debunked the claims of researchers who have proven that the fatal JFK bullet was fired from in front of the limo. Meanwhile, people can simply look at the 9/11 film and see the serial explosions that pulverized the Twin Towers. And people can get stop watches and graph the free fall accelerations. It was a "Shock & Awe" operation-- a "New Pearl Harbor"-- to terrorize the American people into supporting the Bush & Cheney wars in Afghanistan and the Middle East.

Kirk, Your meme reminds me of an old Colorado joke that the "N" on the Nebraska Cornhuskers' football helmets stands for, "Knowledge." 🤪

According to Prouty, Lansdale was deeply disappointed when JFK removed him from Vietnam. Recall that Lansdale and the CIA had more or less created South Vietnam and the Diem regime, after John Foster and Allen Dulles decided to replace the French following Dien Bien Phu. Allen Dulles wanted Lansdale to do in Vietnam what he had done with Magsaysay in the Phillipines.

It's no stunt, Pat. Study the WTC film and the chemistry and physics data of the Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth. Frankly, there's no need to bring your extraneous dialogue about Fetzer, et.al., into the discussion of the scientific facts about the obvious explosive demolitions of WTC1, WTC2, and WTC7. It only muddies the water, which is precisely what the zelikows want.

Indeed, Denny. Reading this AI-generated government disinformation about history makes me feel like the character Winston Smith in George Orwell's novel, 1984. There is already a vast array of such disinformation in the M$M and on the internet, and I expect the problem will get even worse with ChatGPT.

Chris, FYI. Prouty worked with Lansdale for years, as a military liaison to the CIA. (The CIA had to rely on the military for their special ops. They had no Air Force or Navy of their own, etc.) Prouty said that Lansdale was a "chameleon" -- very adept at manipulating people's impressions of who he was and what he was doing for Allen Dulles.

So, Griffith, the non-scientist, posts some of the ubiquitous government disinformation about the WTC7 demolition, while telling us that the scientific facts about the explosive WTC7 demolition is actually pseudo-science. 2+2=5. Incidentally, Popular Mechanics has been identified as a major source of government disinformation about the explosive WTC demolitions. One of their writers is a Bush/Cheney/PNAC guy-- a cousin of Michael Cherthoff, if I recall correctly.

It was Prouty, Ron. And Prouty also said that the Currey biography of Lansdale was bunk -- a CIA propaganda piece.

Geez... What incredible bunk. It's a shame that Pat Speer has joined disinformation-ist Michael Griffith in mucking up the scientific facts about the explosive demolitions of WTC1, WTC2, and WTC7. In essence, Griffith continues to claim that 2+2=5. Then he repeats his trope that scientists and engineers claiming that 2+2=4 are "nutcases." What science or engineering education has Michael Griffith ever had? Inquiring minds want to know. Study the film, folks. The visible serial explosions pulverized hundreds of thousands of tons of WTC concrete into the atmosphere of Manhattan, while liquefying and explosively ejecting steel beams at high velocity. The explosives were burning at high enough temperatures to liquefy steel. Burning jet fuel, office furniture, and refrigerators simply can't do that. Griffith's argument is scientifically absurd. The buildings were pre-wired with military grade thermitic explosives.

Ben, Would you also advise newcomers to be civil to Education Forum members-- e.g., not erroneously referring to them as "nutjobs," "nutty," "nutcases," "deranged," "far left," "ultra liberal," etc.? As for "hardcore scientific" debates-- science is science. Then there is pseudo-science. But people need to know enough science to discern the difference. The CIA/government propagandists have a history of using scientists and academicians to promote false narratives about their ops. One example is Nobel Prize-winning physicist Luis Alvarez being recruited to promote a bogus cellophane-wrapped-melon "simulation" of JFK's assassination. Alvarez's cellophane-wrapped-melon was a pseudo-scientific "simulation" of a human skull being struck by a bullet. Another example was Bush & Cheney's NIST computer "simulation" of the WTC demolitions, in which the authors refused to publish the parameters used in their computer "simulation," and pretended that there were no explosions during the collapse of those skyscrapers.

Ben, I assume that you are referring to Michael Griffith's inappropriate use of erroneous words like "nutty," "nutcase," "nutjob," "deranged," "far left," and "ultra liberal" to describe historians like James DiEugenio and the scholars, scientists, and Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth? Thanks for expressing your perspicacious concerns about Michael's inappropriate forum conduct. As for truth, it's not as subjective as you imagine in matters relating to scientific, forensic, and historical facts. Also, is it uncivil or disagreeable to disagree with falsehoods?

Ron, Sorry to hear about the damage to your house and truck. My wife just flew home from a family funeral in Fort Worth on Tuesday afternoon. She narrowly missed that storm. I was playing golf in the wind up here today with some other old guys from Denver, and we were talking about the noticeable increase in severe windstorms and hail up here in recent years-- presumably from climate change. Everyone on our block had their roofs replaced, due to hail damage, about three years ago, and we had more hail damage last summer, despite using hail-resistant shingles.

Chris, You may be overlooking Leslie Sharp's keen observations here. The truth is that the Republican Party has been waging war on U.S. democracy in recent years, and Tucker Carlson has been a participant in that war. The obvious examples are Trump's Stop-the-Steal hoax, and his J6 mob attack on the U.S. Congress. Tucker promoted the former, and denied the latter. But the Republican war on U.S. democracy has been much broader, as Leslie pointed out. It has included systematic efforts to roll back voting rights, targeting minority groups and the poor. It has also involved a long-term GOP strategem of stacking the courts with right wing judges, for the purpose of promoting plutocratic corporate power, (e.g., Citizens United) rolling back voting rights, (Shelby v. Holder) and rolling back rights for women and LGBT citizens (e.g., Dobbs.) All of these anti-democratic Republican initiatives have been predicated on appeals to white supremacy, Great Replacement Theory, misogyny, homophobia, etc. Historically, Tucker Carlson has been a cheer leader for all of the above.

Ben, I'd prefer that we stick to posting the facts, without worrying about who might be offended by the truth.

Pat, I don't need to read "Tink's paper" (whoever Tink is) to understand the scientific evidence proving the explosive demolitions of WTC1, WTC2, and WTC7. I've read a number of science papers on the subject at the Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth site, and links. I studied a lot of science in college and medical school, (including physics, chemistry, and physical chemistry) and I have studied the science data of the Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth. To reiterate, start with basic empiricism. Put aside the false mass media narratives about what happened and simply look at the film. The serial explosions that demolished WTC1 and WTC2 are clearly visible and audible on film. They were also described by multiple witnesses, whose testimony was carefully omitted from Phillip Zelikow's bogus 9/11 cover up commission. It amazes me that many people have difficulty trusting their eyes and ears and simply perceiving the empirical data-- rather than believing what authority figures on television tell them. Next, study the basic physics data showing that WTC1, WTC2, and WTC7 collapsed to the ground at the approximate acceleration of gravity, indicating that there was zero resistance to collapse. In other words, the steel substructures were rapidly demolished. It wasn't a pile-driver or "pancaking" phenomenon. The steel columns were rapidly, symmetrically obliterated. Third, study the chemical evidence of the liquefication of the steel by extreme high-temperature, military grade thermitic explosives. The steel beams were cut. Thermitic residues were found in the WTC by non-government researchers, along with evidence of molten steel. Fourth, study the pulverization of the WTC concrete-- along with the explosive pulverization of human bodies, office furniture, etc. Incidentally, the Bush/Cheney government, the NIST, Mayor Giuliani, OEM, and Larry Silverstein's private insurers never conducted a forensic arson investigation of Ground Zero. I think Silverstein forbade an independent arson investigation by his insurers in the event of a "terrorist" attack on the WTC. Instead, Giuliani cordoned off Ground Zero and quickly shipped the demolished steel debris to China, sans forensic examination.