Bill Brown

And it's my opinion that I have not been rude to McBride in this thread. He put his interview out there and I'm responding to it.

For starters, can you quote me defending Bugliosi's book? I don't recall doing so.

McBride either doesn't know the case (Oswald in a lineup alongside men in suits, Brennan having bad eyesight on the day of the assassination) and therefore does not belong up on the pedestal which you place him... Or.... McBride is telling porky pies about those things and therefore does not belong up on the pedestal which you place him. One of these must be true. Which is it?

"He can bitch and holler all he wants to, but that's the man I saw running from the scene." - William Scoggins(Jim Leavelle interview with Dale Myers)

Again... Oswald did not appear in any lineup alongside men in suits. You guys gotta stop it with that nonsense. As for McBride's "presentation and, by extension, his work"... Are you aware that he stated that Howard Brennan had poor eyesight on 11.22.63? It should be common knowledge that Brennan had the sandblasting accident (which damaged his vision somewhat) in January of '64. I could go on and on.

I called out McBride for a silly statement that he made and it somehow means that I have no problems at all with the lineups?

I believe the Dallas Police Department could have done better on the line-ups.

And by the way, mentioning only that error, I was being nice. He said a lot of foolish things in that interview.

No. Some unsuspecting listener who's new to the case could hear him say that and believe it. It's irresponsible and foolish.

The Warren Commission exhibit you are referring to, that photo was taken about six months after the assassination. Therefore, it is irrelevant to what Perry, Clark and Ables were wearing during the lineups in November of 1963.

If they weren't wearing suits then don't say they were wearing suits.

So now they're not wearing suits in the lineup?

It should be noted that Jack Tatum has the killer with his hands in his jacket pocket as he leans over talking to Tippit through the window (no hands on the patrol car).

But you have no reason to believe that it's obvious that those prints came from the killer.

At the 50:50 mark... Did McBride really say that Oswald was placed in the lineups alongside men in suits? Good grief.

You are simply trying way too hard to link those prints to Tippit's killer. There's no real reason to believe the prints belong to the killer. None whatsoever. The prints belong to the same person. No one saw the killer touch the right front fender. Therefore, other than your bias, there is no reason to believe the prints on the passenger door belong to the killer.

Both prints belong to the same person. The killer did not touch the right front fender. Therefore, there is no real reason to believe that the prints on the passenger door belong to the killer at all.

Exactly. No witness said they saw the killer touch the right front fender. Then if no one said they saw the killer touch the right front fender, why have you so adamantly included it? In fact, I would argue that since Lutz determined both prints (passenger door/window & right front fender) belonged to the same person, then it's more probable that the print on the passenger door/window didn't belong to the killer since the killer most likely never touched the right front fender.

I don't hate Oliver Stone. I'm a fan of almost all of his movies, including JFK. Let me get this straight, if I put an interview I did on YouTube and only 1,200 people watch it, am I allowed to claim that I've reached an audience of 40 million? I'm sure YouTube has 40 million visitors. Your statement was (and still is) laughable.

Who said the killer touched the right front fender of the patrol car? Maybe I've missed something.

No, I do not believe that Oliver Stone was afraid to contact Ruth Paine. That is not to say that he attempted to contact her, however.

So that's it? Either the killer or a bystander? Couldn't possibly be anyone in the parking lot at the Southwest substation? Another officer from a previous shift? A mechanic? There are literally a dozen other options that you are choosing to ignore.

Straw man. I don't think anyone has said that Oliver was scared to talk to Ruth.

Like I said, you put a disingenuous spin on it. Everyone can plainly see that for themselves. And I'm not angry. You certainly don't have that kind of power. This is real simple, just be honest. That's all.

I realize that is your point but my point is that you're wrong. There is no way you can claim that those partial prints lifted by Barnes "most certainly came from the Killer". No other way to put it other than you're spouting nonsense. You could have said that there is a chance those partial prints came from the killer. If you would have simply said that, then I wouldn't take issue with it because you would be factually correct. But that is not what you said.