David Josephs Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 The rifle in the back yard pictures had a rope sling. mmmm..... Are you sure Ray? I found this - a vintage cloth Carcano sling which Klein's gunsmith claims would have been sent with the rifle if anything was sent at all... Does look like what was on there a bit... Did the rifles come equipped with straps? A- No, because they were very cumbersome to pack. if some_ one would specifically order a sling with the rifle, a military strap would be sent. This would not necessarily mean a strap that was made especially for the 6.5 mannlicher-carcano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Von Pein Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 (edited) Related comments.... Some CTers insist that Lt. Carl Day found NO PRINTS whatsoever on the Carcano rifle on Nov. 22. But the memo below totally destroys that bogus theory. http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-953.html Edited July 21, 2015 by David Von Pein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Mitcham Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 The rifle in the back yard pictures had a rope sling. mmmm..... Are you sure Ray? I found this - a vintage cloth Carcano sling which Klein's gunsmith claims would have been sent with the rifle if anything was sent at all... Does look like what was on there a bit... Did the rifles come equipped with straps? A- No, because they were very cumbersome to pack. if some_ one would specifically order a sling with the rifle, a military strap would be sent. This would not necessarily mean a strap that was made especially for the 6.5 mannlicher-carcano. Magnifying the photos, David, it still appears to me that the strap is a piece of thick cord rather than the strap you illustrate. (No appearance of any flat area in the strap) However, I wouldn't bet the farm on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Nall Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 well the thing is, even if it were proven to be a different sling, couldn't it simply be said that he changed the sling? i'm not sure that this discrepancy means very much in an evidentiary way. are the sling mounts visible in any good back yard pics? they're on the side on C2766, and i seem to remember them being blurry but possibly visible underneath the stock in this pic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Josephs Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 The rifle in the back yard pictures had a rope sling. mmmm..... Are you sure Ray? I found this - a vintage cloth Carcano sling which Klein's gunsmith claims would have been sent with the rifle if anything was sent at all... Does look like what was on there a bit... Did the rifles come equipped with straps? A- No, because they were very cumbersome to pack. if some_ one would specifically order a sling with the rifle, a military strap would be sent. This would not necessarily mean a strap that was made especially for the 6.5 mannlicher-carcano. Magnifying the photos, David, it still appears to me that the strap is a piece of thick cord rather than the strap you illustrate. (No appearance of any flat area in the strap) However, I wouldn't bet the farm on it. Definitely not saying it is this sling.. but it may be a real cloth sling instead of just a piece of rope... as it appears to have some dimension to it... Found these as well which is even closer to it... who knows what they would have sent with the rifle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Mitcham Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 (edited) Close upon the rifle strap. It does not appear to have any "flat" areas which would indicate such a flat strap, as shown above. IMO. Edited July 21, 2015 by Ray Mitcham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Speer Posted July 21, 2015 Author Share Posted July 21, 2015 The strap has been discussed on this forum many times in the past. If I remember correctly, Tom Purvis claimed it was actually an Air Force revolver holster, or some such thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Lloyd Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I thought it had been determined (HSCA?) that the "sling" on the rifle in the BYPs was actually a piece of rope? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Nall Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 well, i will say this - regardless of what kind of sling that is in the back yard photos, after seeing these again with the sling in mind, what it is most certainly NOT is the same sling as is on the rifle found on the 6th floor. obviously anyone can replace a sling - but i'd be amazed that "they" would be stupid enough to use such an obviously different sling - if the idea was to falsely portray LHO holding the MC in question. Ray, you are right, there is no question that this is a different sling. i'm still curious as to why it matters if it's not the same one - or if that's what the discussion is about at all. If it's NOT the same one, to me that seems to go against the idea of collusion, at least as far as different rifles go. Robert pointed out that they'd be stupid to use two different rifles - and i agree - but since there are a whole bunch of missing MC's from that shipment, and since there's a mysterious incident of a similar rifle being taken out of hock by Hemming, or Hall, which seems to connect somehow, it's possible that a different rifle could have been used for some uncontrollable reason at the time. It seems even stupider not to ensure that at least the slings matched. IF this is a ruse, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Nall Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 (edited) [oops] Edited July 21, 2015 by Glenn Nall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Knight Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 As I understand the story, Hemming's rifle that was hocked was a Johnson .30-06 breakdown sniper rifle....according to several sources. http://www.acorn.net/jfkplace/09/fp.back_issues/11th_Issue/guns_dp.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitali Zhuk Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 (edited) Possibly it is not a rope: Edited July 21, 2015 by Vitali Zhuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hume Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 (edited) Post moved to "Identifying Markings of C2766" thread. Edited July 21, 2015 by Tom Hume Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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