Robin Unger Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 This is approximately how i see the prayer man standing position, credit to Jim Hawthorn for the graphic. but Prayerman should be back in the corner a bit more, so that the middle of his head lines up with the steel window frame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 If you post a link i will have a look at it. Hi Robin Yes, you are renowned for your good work in the research field. I'm sure we've all seen your excellent galleries and commentary over the years. But I was just wondering if you have any views on Stan Dane's GIF of PM in motion and what he is doing with his hands? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 This GIF was created by Gerda Dunckel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dolva Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 just wanted to see a relatively stable version :whoever it is doesn't seem to move much. At first I thought : clipboard, now no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Josephs Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Oswald had been there for barely a month How many of all these people would have known him at all, let alone notice much of anything after what they just experienced while walking dazed back up to their jobs? Wesley is there and fairly close to PM. He is sought out and brought to DPD with his 303 rifle and ammo... He is the man responsible for bringing Oswald home and helping him bring the rifle to do the deed, or so says the DPD to this frightened young man and his sister after finally tracking him down Did Wesley see Oswald in the corner? My guess is he would never say so in a million years... if it was Wesley they were leaning on as an accomplice. What amazes me is that no one has ever come forward to claim that was Oswald... not even hint at it. C Arnold comes closest by putting him inside those front doors as 12:30 approaches He does look kinda large to be Ozzie - wide rather than large - but that could be a billowing shirt. just thinking out loud DJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 (edited) It looks like Prayer Man's white t-shirt is barely visible under his dark-colored shirt. --Tommy Edited April 6, 2015 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanessa Loney Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Hi Robin Apologies, I've been out. The Stan Dane GIF I'm referring to is on this page at comment #1756. It shows more detail of what PM is doing with his hands. Any comments on what he is doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanessa Loney Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Hi David Except that PM is standing right behind where the TSBD door opens and anyone going into the TSBD would have been staring him right in the face as they opened the door. If he was a stranger on the day of the assassination don't you think he would have stood out? Most of the TSBD employees are specifically asked, and specifically deny, seeing any strangers around the TSBD that day in their WC testimony and affividavits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanessa Loney Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Hi Robin Apologies, I can't post the response I'm replying to on EF due to technical issues. In reference to the graphic above showing BWF and PM, I take it you are one of those who believe that PM was 5 foot tall? I think Chris Davidson and others on here addressed that height issue a page or two back. Just a comment about the graphic, the PM figure doesn't appear to have any feet or are they included in the leg measurements? He already looks disproportionately small compared to BWF - if he's given feet he would be even tinier. The PM figure in Stan and Gerda's GIFs appears to have head, body and arms that are in proportion to the others on the steps. He does not appear to be diminutive. He just looks so much shorter compared to BWF because he is standing on the next step down from the top landing (where BWF is standing). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 (edited) Could be Vanessa Given the fact that we can't see Prayer mans legs, we have know way of knowing which step he is standing on. I don't think we will ever really know until we can source better resolution frames to work with. The frames most of us are using now, were originally provided by me in a ZIP file that contained 110 - frames but even those are not clear enough to give us the answers we are looking for Edited April 6, 2015 by Robin Unger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanessa Loney Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Thanks Robin I hope you don't mind me asking you this, but if people were interested in getting better resolution frames to work with do you have any advice as to where they might go? Thanks for any thoughts you may have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 I don't have a better source at the moment. I think the question may have been directed at Gary Mack regarding a better quality Darnell copy. but it was a while ago, and i can't recall his response Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandros Dimitriadis Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Hello Bob Is it possible that Prayer Man is laying on the wall in an angle that makes him look shorter and wider than what he really is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Davidson Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 http://www76.zippyshare.com/v/O9VT35mr/file.html The Weigman gif is a 2frame/4second differential,time lapse. PM appears to be filming/photographing and then stops. Lovelady appears to take at least one step down. chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Prudhomme Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 http://www76.zippyshare.com/v/O9VT35mr/file.html The Weigman gif is a 2frame/4second differential,time lapse. PM appears to be filming/photographing and then stops. Lovelady appears to take at least one step down. chris Good find, Chris. It appears Lovelady was a couple of inches taller than PM, assuming they were both standing erect. How tall was Lovelady again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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