Thomas Graves Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Lovelady was not asked to wear the shirt he wore that day when he was photographed by the FBI Yet the reports stated that he did, hence the hooha. Old news really, Weisberg was on this decades ago. Bumped. See? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 (edited) I have been talking about Prayer Man on Dutch radio and TV. http://www.prayer-man.com/prayer-man-on-dutch-tv-and-radio-1/ And Brian Kelshaw allowed me to post his shots from last week of the front steps of the TSBD. http://www.prayer-man.com/the-steps-of-the-tsbd/ I will post the videos with subtitles in a week or two. Edited November 27, 2016 by Bart Kamp added another link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 I have a made a post about Richard Bernabei a Canadian researcher who corresponded heavily with Richard E. Sprague, Howard Roffman and Harold Weisberg. Bernabei is the first researcher who actively mapped everyone on the steps from the available material at that time. He has id-ed Prayer Man and has even made sketches of him back in the late 60's Bernabei is without a doubt the first one who mapped Prayer Man along with Richard E. Sprague. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Knight Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Great stuff, Bart! The Bernabei material is amazing in his seeing something that it took the rest of us almost 40 years more to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Thank you Mark. Yes I agree, imagine my surprise when I saw the sketches. The diagram was already at the Weisberg archive. The main question here is why did it die a death for 40 years in 1968? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Weisberg must not have shown it to Garrison. At least its not in Garrison's extant files. Which does not necessarily mean he did not show it to him. But I think JG would have said something about it somewhere. Can you post that here since I cannot get to that spot, its blocked for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Butler Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 15 minutes ago, James DiEugenio said: Can you post that here since I cannot get to that spot, its blocked for some reason. Bart - Sophos blocks your site for me too...Says it contains a Trojan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Jim, I have no idea nor seen anything where it points to HW telling JG about any of this. Mean I will have to dig thru his correspondence with JG, if there is any. I have no idea why it is blocked as I have been given the all clear by Google just over a week or so ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Miller Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 FWIW .... http://www.jfklancer.com/photos/lovelady/index.html Can't recall at this time what magazine it was in, but years ago I posted a scan of an enlarged image from the Hughes film that was in color and showing Lovelady wearing his red shirt and standing right where this very poor image being discussed shows what someone called 'praying-man'. It's the same man some thought to be Oswald at this location in the Altgen's photo, which was beyond question - Billy Lovelady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Larsen Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Bart, My virus checker (Avast) also reports a virus on your website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Thanks Sandy. I have scanned for malware and removed it. Scanned twice after with two proggies and been given the all clear. Clear your cache and run again. Sorry for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 5 hours ago, Bill Miller said: FWIW .... http://www.jfklancer.com/photos/lovelady/index.html Can't recall at this time what magazine it was in, but years ago I posted a scan of an enlarged image from the Hughes film that was in color and showing Lovelady wearing his red shirt and standing right where this very poor image being discussed shows what someone called 'praying-man'. It's the same man some thought to be Oswald at this location in the Altgen's photo, which was beyond question - Billy Lovelady. No Bill. Lovelady stood next to Prayer Man in Wiegman and in Hughes Prayer Man stood behind Lovelady at that time. Lovelady moves up the steps and to the right and leans to look out while limo makes its way down Elm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Prudhomme Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 They never give up, Bart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Miller Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bart Kamp said: No Bill. Lovelady stood next to Prayer Man in Wiegman and in Hughes Prayer Man stood behind Lovelady at that time. Lovelady moves up the steps and to the right and leans to look out while limo makes its way down Elm. Moved up the steps - When was this supposed to have happen? Hughes filmed Lovelady in his red shirt as JFK's car was turning the corner. The shirt is open midway/up exposing the white T-shirt Lovelady wore underneath it. In the same image if one looks closely in this Hughes image, the black man seen in the Altgen's 6 photo is is in the same spot just below the red-shirted man (Lovelady). This was before the shots started and both men remained in position when Altgens 6 was taken. Hughes image Altgens 6 Not sure what all the "prayer-man" issue is about anymore than I know who Robert Prudhomme means by "they" in his last response where he says "They never give up, Bart.". Edited December 7, 2016 by Bill Miller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) Bill, if you check this thread and the images then you can see that Lovelady gradually moved to get a better view while the limo was going down Elm.And he eventually left the steps and moved West with Bill Shelley. From Hughes to A6 to Wiegman to Couch. Edited December 7, 2016 by Bart Kamp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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