Douglas Caddy Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Who Killed JFK? - David Talbot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEEsddcHBmE&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR3sia4DqslUBim0JT1ofHnnC2ViACOZgo10jtASgy9YrFNZUurkvgsFAig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Considering Talbot made that speech when he did, before The Devil's Chessboard, its not bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I'm hoping that Talbot is on his way to making a complete recovery of his health and his considerable abilities. One can only wonder why RFK and Walter Sheridan were so bent on damaging Jim Garrison's investigation, unless they felt that Garrison was undermining their own efforts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 RFK was not. Sheridan was. Sheridan was chief of counterintelligence at NSA, which means he interfaced with Angleton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 15 minutes ago, James DiEugenio said: RFK was not. Sheridan was. Sheridan was chief of counterintelligence at NSA, which means he interfaced with Angleton. So when Talbot is saying that "RFK and Sheridan had the case cracked"...what did that portend for Bobby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 That is a point I dispute with him and I did in my review of Brothers. I do think RFK did some work on the JFK case. There are indications of that. But I do not know exactly what Bobby was on to by 1968. And I really do not think its in Talbot's book either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cory Santos Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Two issues for the RFK thought it was a conspiracy theory- though I think the evidence shows he thought there was one. One, after MLK is assassinated with a patsy set up similar to his brothers assassination, why did he not have real security? On the night MLK was shot he was before a large crowd announcing it. He continued being very open to the public. Why did he not take precautions if he thought there was a conspiracy? Second, in his recorded memoir, he alludes to Bill Harvey and how he shipped him to Italy. Strangely, he doesn't name him and acts like this person was insignificant and he can't recall his name. Was it intentional acting? If he was suspicious certainly he must have considered Harvey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Brancato Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 56 minutes ago, Cory Santos said: Two issues for the RFK thought it was a conspiracy theory- though I think the evidence shows he thought there was one. One, after MLK is assassinated with a patsy set up similar to his brothers assassination, why did he not have real security? On the night MLK was shot he was before a large crowd announcing it. He continued being very open to the public. Why did he not take precautions if he thought there was a conspiracy? Second, in his recorded memoir, he alludes to Bill Harvey and how he shipped him to Italy. Strangely, he doesn't name him and acts like this person was insignificant and he can't recall his name. Was it intentional acting? If he was suspicious certainly he must have considered Harvey. The way I recall this, RFK fired Harvey, and Helms transferred Harvey to Rome without informing RFK. Where can I read the recorded memoir which states otherwise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cory Santos Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Paul Brancato said: The way I recall this, RFK fired Harvey, and Helms transferred Harvey to Rome without informing RFK. Where can I read the recorded memoir which states otherwise? I have to look, it was either youtube or a film. Ill see what I can find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Gallaway Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Paul said: Where can I read the recorded memoir which states otherwise? I think he's talking about this Paul, you can actually listen to RFK around 3:35. https://youtu.be/RhszHjeYjA4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, Cory Santos said: One, after MLK is assassinated with a patsy set up similar to his brothers assassination, why did he not have real security? On the night MLK was shot he was before a large crowd announcing it. He continued being very open to the public. Why did he not take precautions if he thought there was a conspiracy? To be honest, I think RFK wanted to show the common people that he was unafraid, and I think he also had a death wish and wanted to prove something to Americans by offering himself up to assassination. I feel that JFK had the same motives in riding among his enemies in Dallas. However, I think RFK believed that he was more protected at the Ambassador than he was. He had no qualm about being lead down an unplanned route and maneuvered into a tight spot in the kitchen, since so many supporters were close behind. He couldn't imagine how far his assassins would go. An aside: we think a lot about how JFK was led into the perfect urban geography for triangulated fire, but we ignore how RFK was led ahead of his crowd into that narrow space between the steam table and the coolers. And then the crowd was put down by a spray of gunfire. Edited January 29, 2019 by David Andrews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 The worst possible scenario ( life and death fight for survival ) for LBJ, Hoover, Jimmy Hoffa and the entire Mafia nationwide would have been an RFK presidency. Eliminating RFK was probably the highest priority necessity of their entire lives and history. RFK was the final and most dangerous threat of all ( beyond even JFK and MLK ) to these massively corrupt groups and individuals. Amazing the level of risky public exposure openness taken by RFK and his people when they had to know how murderous these devilish corrupt forces were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Brancato Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 10 hours ago, Kirk Gallaway said: Paul said: Where can I read the recorded memoir which states otherwise? I think he's talking about this Paul, you can actually listen to RFK around 3:35. https://youtu.be/RhszHjeYjA4 As I thought. RFK doesn’t mention his name but he knew it was Harvey. I’m fairly certain RFK thought he had successfully fired Harvey and did not know that Helms decided instead to send him to Rome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cory Santos Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 So this looks like the recording, I had not seen the youtube video. However RFK specifically notes something to the effect that the guy (Harvey) was shipped out to Italy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 13 hours ago, Rich Pope said: In many threads we have pointed this out. There's no need for any new threads to nail down what happened. We already know that William Harvey located the shooters, we all know the mob (Carlos Marcello) was pushing for the "hit" on Kennedy, we already know who the shooters are and where they were located, we already know Hoover and the FBI covered it up, we all know Oswald didn't do it, we all know that James Jesus Angleton discovered JFK was sharing intelligence information with the Soviets (treason), we already know all of these things. This is just a waste of time. It may be old news to you and a waste of time. But to high school and college students and the general public who visit to forum to get information it likely is new news. This is why this website is called the Education Forum. Most of these visitors were born after 1963. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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