Micah Mileto Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Is this the same Mark Crouch who befriended Secret Service Agent James Fox, and who leaked the autopsy photos? https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/delawareonline/obituary.aspx?n=mark-arnold-crouch&pid=183025950&fhid=6217 If not, when did Mark Crouch die? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 (edited) Well, this guy would have been nine years old when the assassination happened. When were the photo's leaked? Edited April 30, 2019 by Ron Bulman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Mileto Posted April 30, 2019 Author Share Posted April 30, 2019 11 minutes ago, Ron Bulman said: Well, this guy would have been nine years old when the assassination happened. When were the photo's leaked? 1981 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 So he'd of been 27. Three years after the HSCA. The year Lifton published Best Evidence. Makes sense. Never read about Fox leaking, any link or info on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Mileto Posted April 30, 2019 Author Share Posted April 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Ron Bulman said: So he'd of been 27. Three years after the HSCA. The year Lifton published Best Evidence. Makes sense. Never read about Fox leaking, any link or info on that? From Best Evidence, 1992 signet edition afterward: In 1981, I received a letter from Maryland radio journalist Mark Crouch saying he knew someone who had a set of the autopsy photographs, the same photographs that were at the National Archives. He subsequently introduced me to James K. (“Jack’’) Fox, formerly a photographer with the Intelligence Division of the U.S. Secret Service. Documents from the House Assassinations Committee establish that Fox was one of a few officials who had access to the photographs. On three occasions, he supervised their processing. According to Fox, shortly after the assassination he was told by Secret Service Agent Roy Kellerman: “Here, make a set of these for yourself. They’ll be history someday.” Fox showed me the pictures he had, and later I was able to obtain a set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 My understanding is that Fox was selling these pics of the autopsy. He sold them to Crouch. Lifton bought them from either Crouch or Fox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Mileto Posted February 24, 2022 Author Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) Here's a web page published in 2020 discussing Mark Crouch: https://famousinterview.com/unsolved-mysteries/mark-crouch-interview-kennedy-assassination-researcher/ I think he died in 2016 but this is an old interview? Edited February 24, 2022 by Micah Mileto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Palamara Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 I knew Mark--not real well, but we spoke a few times. He was a former associate of David Lifton who then sided with Harry Livingstone. Mark was very much into the autopsy photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Mileto Posted February 24, 2022 Author Share Posted February 24, 2022 8 minutes ago, Vince Palamara said: I knew Mark--not real well, but we spoke a few times. He was a former associate of David Lifton who then sided with Harry Livingstone. Mark was very much into the autopsy photos. Mark Crouch is the reason why we have the Fox photos, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Palamara Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 20 minutes ago, Micah Mileto said: Mark Crouch is the reason why we have the Fox photos, right? Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Speer Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) On 4/30/2019 at 8:29 AM, James DiEugenio said: My understanding is that Fox was selling these pics of the autopsy. He sold them to Crouch. Lifton bought them from either Crouch or Fox. Yes, that's Mark. RIP. There used to be a video of him on YouTube in which he ran through the Fox set one by one in which he made a lot more sense than most people when they talk about the photos. Mark got the photos from Fox. It is my recollection Fox was a WWII-buff, and Crouch traded him some rare WWII material to Fox in exchange for the photos. It is also my understanding that Lifton did not buy the photos from Crouch, but that Crouch made Lifton copies--photos of the original photos. He later made other sets and sold them to other researchers. I am fairly certain the original Fox set was ultimately sold to Walt Brown, who, in the long tradition of JFK researchers, decided to tuck them away in his personal treasure chest. He published some of them in one of his books, but in low resolution and with captions on the photos. To my understanding, he has never had these superior images digitized, and I'm pretty sure he's never even been pressured to do so by the likes of Wecht or Aguilar. It makes no sense to me. As a result most researchers have been forced to work with scans from Lifton's and Groden's books, some of which have been cropped. it took me several years to realize there was a drainage hole in F8, and that that was the key to orienting that photo, and that's because the drainage hole was cropped off most of the published photos. And then of course there's the other F8, which Crouch had long recognized as the other half of a matched pair with F8, but which I'd stupidly thought was the same photo, only developed differently. Until I created a Gif of these two photos and put it on my website, most didn't even realize we had the other F8, even though it had been in the Crouch set sold to dozens of researchers. Secrecy, hoarding, hoping to get rich... It's pretty standard JFK "researcher" behavior. Which is why those who dedicated themselves to sharing information--Mary Ferrell, Harold Weisberg--remain heroes. Edited February 24, 2022 by Pat Speer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Palamara Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Pat Speer said: Yes, that's Mark. RIP. There used to be a video of him on YouTube in which he ran through the Fox set one by one in which he made a lot more sense than most people when they talk about the photos. Mark got the photos from Fox. It is my recollection Fox was a WWII-buff, and Crouch traded him some rare WWII material to Fox in exchange for the photos. It is also my understanding that Lifton did not buy the photos from Crouch, but that Crouch made Lifton copies--photos of the original photos. He later made other sets and sold them to other researchers. I am fairly certain the original Fox set was ultimately sold to Walt Brown, who, in the long tradition of JFK researchers, decided to tuck them away in his personal treasure chest. He published some of them in one of his books, but in low resolution and with captions on the photos. To my understanding, he has never had these superior images digitized, and I'm pretty sure he's never even been pressured to do so by the likes of Wecht or Aguilar. It makes no sense to me. As a result most researchers have been forced to work with scans from Lifton's and Groden's books, some of which have been cropped. it took me several years to realize there was a drainage hole in F8, and that that was the key to orienting that photo, and that's because the drainage hole was cropped off most of the published photos. And then of course there's the other F8, which Crouch had long recognized as the other half of a matched pair with F8, but which I'd stupidly thought was the same photo, only developed differently. Until I created a Gif of these two photos and put it on my website, most didn't even realize we had the other F8, even though it had been in the Croft set sold to dozens of researchers. Secrecy, hoarding, hoping to get rich... It's pretty standard JFK "researcher" behavior. Which is why those who dedicated themselves to sharing information--Mary Ferrell, Harold Weisberg--remain heroes. You can see the video on my channel: search for "Crouch" or RARE: JFK Autopsy Photographs with Mark Crouch and Harry Livingstone 1991 Edited February 24, 2022 by Vince Palamara link not allowed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Mileto Posted October 13, 2023 Author Share Posted October 13, 2023 Yes, this is the researcher Mark Crouch who died in 2016 https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/251198826/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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