Cory Santos Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/american-deep-state-movie-the-strasson-group-and-bernie-olaf-announce-new-release-date-for-the-new-film-1028685412 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Brancato Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Here we go again. I think the JFK assassination truth is being hijacked by Trumpers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Looks interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Paul Brancato said: Here we go again. I think the JFK assassination truth is being hijacked by Trumpers. If JFK is going to be used as poster boy for deep state animus, why doesn't Trump meet his legend halfway and give us socialized medicine? I mean, what has Trump done to anger the deep state except be a non-politician who won and then broke some rules about colluding with foreign governments? Skew the angle on that picture a little, and he's...George W. Bush. Edited November 14, 2019 by David Andrews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 57 minutes ago, David Andrews said: If JFK is going to be used as poster boy for deep state animus, why doesn't Trump meet his legend halfway and give us socialized medicine? I mean, what has Trump done to anger the deep state except be a non-politician who won and then broke some rules about colluding with foreign governments? Skew the angle on that picture a little, and he's...George W. Bush. This looks like something produced by the guys who produced the 2016 GOP propaganda classic, Thirteen Hours, based on a false narrative about Benghazi. It will be interesting to see how they explain the inconvenient truth that Deep State honchos like James Comey and Giuliani's FBI Email-gate "leakers" threw the 2016 election to Donald Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Brancato Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 4 hours ago, W. Niederhut said: This looks like something produced by the guys who produced the 2016 GOP propaganda classic, Thirteen Hours, based on a false narrative about Benghazi. It will be interesting to see how they explain the inconvenient truth that Deep State honchos like James Comey and Giuliani's FBI Email-gate "leakers" threw the 2016 election to Donald Trump. That’s it exactly. They love to forget what Comey did, and the part Giuliani played leading to Comey’s devastating reopening of the Clinton email case. No amount of fudging numbers and minutes of airtime will change that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Gallaway Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 7 hours ago, David Andrews said: If JFK is going to be used as poster boy for deep state animus, why doesn't Trump meet his legend halfway and give us socialized medicine? I mean, what has Trump done to anger the deep state except be a non-politician who won and then broke some rules about colluding with foreign governments? Skew the angle on that picture a little, and he's...George W. Bush. Exactly Dave, pro MIC, pro tax cuts to the wealthy........a little noise...eh........feels good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Kirk Gallaway said: Exactly Dave, pro MIC, pro tax cuts to the wealthy........a little noise...eh........feels good! And when you factor in election theft, and no recognition of Congress...he's just Dubya with a bigger mouth, and the unwillingness to stoop to holding prior office to create a whiff of party loyalty. That last thing is probably Trump's original sin: a major party bought into him to get to the White House when they could have forced him to run as an independent and lose. They had no viable candidate, and now they have buyer's remorse. So blame it on the deep state, which includes the other party without a viable candidate. Cripes, the GOP doesn't even have a credible vice-president to replace him with. Edited November 15, 2019 by David Andrews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 This is what I like. Movie reviews from people who have not seen the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 8 hours ago, James DiEugenio said: This is what I like. Movie reviews from people who have not seen the film. Don't make me quote all your Irishman coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 What does that mean? I not only saw the film, I read the book it was based on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cory Santos Posted November 15, 2019 Author Share Posted November 15, 2019 9 hours ago, James DiEugenio said: This is what I like. Movie reviews from people who have not seen the film. Agree. Sometimes watching film of viewpoints which are not your own opens ones mind to other possibilities. When JFK was released the reviews ranged credible to some that downright misstated what was actually in the film. Conspiracists were up in arms by some of the mainstream reviewers who did not even view the film yet criticized it. Now, all these years later, the roles are reversed. See it or don't see it. If you don't see it you cannot critique it. It is no differant than when I ask wc supporter did they read a book or see a documentary and they say no. Then how can they say there is no evidence supporting a conspiracy if they will not look at it? They cannot. To go through life with anti-Trump or anti-Republican, or Democrat for that matter, blinders on is not being open minded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, James DiEugenio said: What does that mean? I not only saw the film, I read the book it was based on. Right, but first there were the pre-screening complaints about ethnic stereotyping... Edited November 15, 2019 by David Andrews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Who is Bernie Olaf? And what is the Stasson Group-- a wholly owned subsidiary of Koch Industries ? My initial skepticism about the film, based on the lead article on this thread, is that it seems to mirror the Trumpaganda blaming the "Deep State" for Trump's Russia-gate and Ukraine-gate scandals. In that sense, it sounds like another pre-election propaganda film based on fake GOP "history" -- like the Thirteen Hours propaganda film about Benghazi from 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cory Santos Posted November 16, 2019 Author Share Posted November 16, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, W. Niederhut said: Who is Bernie Olaf? And what is the Stasson Group-- a wholly owned subsidiary of Koch Industries ? My initial skepticism about the film, based on the lead article on this thread, is that it seems to mirror the Trumpaganda blaming the "Deep State" for Trump's Russia-gate and Ukraine-gate scandals. In that sense, it sounds like another pre-election propaganda film based on fake GOP "history" -- like the Thirteen Hours propaganda film about Benghazi from 2016. Ok replace the above with "Oliver Stone conspiracy nonsense propaganda" that someone might write about. You cannot have it only one way. Edited November 16, 2019 by Cory Santos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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