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On 2/28/2020 at 1:17 AM, Andrej Stancak said:

Please correct me if I misunderstood the new scenario for Lee Oswald, however, this is what I get from Ed's posts: Lee Oswald somehow got to Oak Cliff (route unknown), to the shoe store where he was supposed to meet Marina  and Ruth Paine with their children and buy shoes for June. The randezvous was cancelled because of Kennedy's assassination but he went to that shoe store anyway. As Marina and Ruth and children did not turn up (but the meeting was already postponed so why would Lee expect them to come), he went to Texas Theatre just to spent time there. 

I find this scenario improbable and logically inconsistent but what is of greater concern is that nowhere in this scenario is there any stop at a place where Lee could change his clothing. Lee Oswald left, at least some people still assume so, 1026 North Beckley about 7.30 AM on Thursday, November 21. He went to work and after work, instead of returning to his rooming house, he went to Irving with Buell Wesley Frazier. He then came straight to work on the next day, November 22, without being able to change his clothing. Thus, he had the same work clothes on him the whole Thursday and Friday morning. 

The point is that Lee changed both his pants and his Briarloom shirt before his arrest. That has been discussed in another thread, however, if someone is able to prove that Lee Oswald wore the same dark brown shirt CE150 both on Friday morning and Friday afternoon after his arrest,  he/she can be congratulated for clearing one of the greatest mysteries in JFKA case because, under such scenario, Lee Oswald could not be Prayer Man. The dark CE150 would not fit the shirt seen on Prayer Man in Darnell, only the light-red CE151 shirt would. 

Take away 1026 North Beckley (or some other credible address) as a place where Lee Oswald changed his pants and shirt after he left the Depository and Lee Oswald can be discarded as Prayer Man. 

Late edit: it is easier to see that Lee Oswald, if he was Prayer Man,  changed his slacks after he left the Depository because those he wore at the time of his arrest were very dark, possibly black, while Prayer Man's pants are of much lighter colour.

 

 

Andrej is confused.

As I have stated clearly from the start and on other threads that Lee Rode the Beckley bus.

Is clearly wearing same shirt as he has on in Weigman and Darnell.

His leg as PM is not that long Andrej

Your proportionality is way off if that's a leg.

Lee was not to meet anyone in Oak Cliff but Marina and Ruth planned to go shoe shopping that afternoon.

Deduction is not your strong suit sorry to say Andrej... 

He would naturally check or looked in to see if maybe his wife was shoe shopping at a shoe store.

How would Lee know they were not going shopping after all Andrej?

Did he call ... can you point out testimony or records of this call that would provide him the necessary information, or not?

When you say "the meeting was already postponed" can you give any clue as to how you determined that? Or how a non-meeting is undone? It'll be fascinating.

Lee went to the theater, like all others there, to watch a double feature. How sinister or incriminating is that to you... ah no worries it's not incriminating to anyone else.

 

SAME SHIRT ON STEPS AS ARREST.

Lee supposedly says he stopped off and changed his britches. AKA pants.

NO SHIRT CHANGE. NO T-SHIRT CHANGE.

Again you need to show he lives at Beckley before you have him undressing in the room... or it'd be a shock to the actual tenant.

CART BEFORE HORSE...

Are you positive Marina didn't rinse out his clothes or use Ruth's fancy machines Thursday evening? Again you make a point but the same point goes both ways.

So conversely if he wore the same clothes to work Friday he didn't have any clothing at Ruth's... OR all his clothes were at Ruth's and he did wear different clothes and the ones he wore Thursday are moved to the Beckley pile while at DPD headquarters and not listed as Irving.

You need more to convince me that he has different pants on than ones we can not see in the films.

And NO. The red shirt does not match PMs.

The arrest shirt does.

Why still have the bus transfer if your going to a house on BECKLEY.... from a route on Marsalis.

 

Ever find that Beckley Bus driver that's supposed to drive Lee to work daily for 6 weeks??? 

NO!?! 

Seems an important witness, as this could be a bus Lee "transfered" to...

But no worry keep asking irrelevant questions and obstinate observations.

So sorry but hinging PM on crap analysis of unobservable trousers is ridiculous and nearly beneath comment. You don't have the aptitude for any analysis without some strings attached it has become clear. 

THANKS THO for outting yourself and lack of any real skills at photo and film analysis.

Just for giggles what shade of dark are his light pants that look dark if what you claim is a leg is his leg... a grotesque limb if it exists.

I'll help you out Andrej.. they are dark just as arrest pants were.

CORRECTED IF MISUNDERSTOOD.  Check.

Ed

 

 

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Of import is the statement by Lee that he kept his belongings and especially he says his clothing at the Paine's garage.
Forget looking for those pesky sea bags marked OSWALD as they would ruin the charade. (Robert received one from Paine's oddly when all the property was being collected over two days yet Green Sea Bags with OSWALD stenciled on them just never made the DPD inventories. 



 

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