Bolton Ford -- What REALLY happened there in 1961!

[Greg Doudna]

There is a name "Oswald" on that 1961 Bolton Ford bid sheet in New Orleans. That is the only fact from the time-- "Oswald" on a document. Not "Lee Harvey Oswald", not "Lee Oswald", but "Oswald". There were dozens of Oswalds in New Orleans and immediate vicinity, including one in an immediately adjacent business next door to Bolton Ford in the business of ordering and supplying vehicles for purchasers. Now the question is: why on earth would anyone assume this "Oswald" name on that bid order form was an Oswald halfway on the other side of the world in the Soviet Union, according to his mother, his brother, his wife, and himself, not to mention plenty of documentation--and not one of the dozens of Oswalds who actually were in Louisiana at that time.

Why?

Well, there seem to be two things. After the assassination in Nov 1963--two years later--some at Ford Bolton remembered that name "Oswald" and leaped to the conclusion that maybe the accused assassin of JFK by the same name had been that Oswald in their building in 1961. And then--six years later--one of the salesmen said he thought it was someone named "Lee Oswald" because he thought "Lee Oswald" (but not "Harvey") had been said and written on the bid form. That is six years later. Is it not obvious that that sole basis for supposing the "Oswald" was Lee Harvey Oswald is a retroactive manufactured memory of a salesman who admitted his memory was imperfect but thought he remembered (six years earlier) a first name "Lee"? And yet the bid sheet where he thought he remembered had been written "Lee Oswald" did not have "Lee Oswald". It had just "Oswald". No Lee. The "Lee" was a manufactured memory six years later under the influence of the Lee Harvey Oswald story of the JFK assassination.

So my question is very simple and very basic: is your only basis for assuming that "Oswald" had anything to do with "Lee Harvey Oswald" that six-years' later questionable imperfect memory of one salesman, six years later, who thought he remembered "Lee"? Is that it? Why then these whole mountains of discussion over this 1961 Bolton Ford "Oswald" focusing on the one Oswald who it cannot possibly be because he was not in Louisiana?

Why are you excluding that it is one of the dozens of possible Oswalds--Oswalds living in Louisiana in proximity to New Orleans? Or casting a wider net and adding east Texas or Arkansas would put it into the hundreds of possible Oswalds who could be the "Oswald" on that Bolton Ford bid sheet in 1961? 

What is the basis for excluding the known possibilities--Oswalds who actually were located in or near New Orleans at that time--as that Oswald? 

Seriously. And not even a mention of this, as if this is not even on the radar of possibility in your discussions! 

As only one example of the dozens of possible Oswalds that 1961 Bolton Ford "Oswald" could have been, Fred Litwin's blog makes an intriguing case that "Oswald" written on that 1961 Bolton Ford bid quote was the owner of Schulingkamp Motor Company located adjacent to Bolton Ford from where he could have walked over, named Oswald Schulingkamp. Here: https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/lee-harvey-oswald-was-not-impersonated-at-bolton-ford 

Would it not be simple honesty to disclose this link of Litwin each time you start or renew a discussion of Bolton Ford with your leaping to conclusion that the 1961 "Oswald" must be either Lee Harvey Oswald or clone or someone claiming to be him etc and etc and etc and etc, all because a salesman there thought six years later he maybe heard the name "Lee" and thought "Lee" had been written on the 1961 order form (which it wasn't)? 

Why exclude a priori a reasonable explanation--that the 1961 Bolton Ford "Oswald" was one of the hundreds of Oswalds within driving distance of Bolton Ford, and that "Lee" from six years later from that salesman was an influenced or manufactured memory after the accused JFK assassin Lee Harvey Oswald became famous? 

It does not matter whether one accepts that neighbor vehicle-dealer Oswald Schulingkamp was the "Oswald" written on that Bolton Ford paperwork involved with ordering vehicles. Fred Litwin's suggestion that that could be that identity is presented by Litwin as a conjecture, not certainty. I think the suggestion is brilliant and some form of it likely to be the true explanation, but who knows, maybe it is only coincidence that there is an Oswald so close by in exactly the line of business doing exactly what the Bolton Ford Oswald was doing--involved in the money or ordering end of the deal. But even if that suggestion is not deemed convincing, why exclude a priori dozens or hundreds of other Oswalds in Louisiana (or east Texas or Arkansas) as the Bolton Ford "Oswald" of 1961? Why insist on closing one's eyes very hard and believing that it must be Lee Harvey Oswald or someone claiming to be Lee Harvey Oswald--that particular Oswald of all Oswalds in the universe?

Readers note: see whether responses to this post answer the question, or go off further in all directions not responsive to the question.

[Jonathan Cohen]

5 hours ago, Greg Doudna said:

Why exclude a priori a reasonable explanation--that the 1961 Bolton Ford "Oswald" was one of the hundreds of Oswalds within driving distance of Bolton Ford, and that "Lee" from six years later from that salesman was an influenced or manufactured memory after the accused JFK assassin Lee Harvey Oswald became famous? 

Greg, don’t hold your breath. I cannot recall a single example of Jim Hargrove ever acknowledging that dozens of logical, plausible alternate explanations exist for his so-called evidence of a decades-long Oswald doppelgänger scheme. 

[Sandy Larsen]

4 hours ago, Greg Doudna said:

Now the question is: why on earth would anyone assume this "Oswald" name on that bid order form was an Oswald halfway on the other side of the world in the Soviet Union, according to his mother, his brother, his wife, and himself, not to mention plenty of documentation--and not one of the dozens of Oswalds who actually were in Louisiana at that time.

 

Why? Because there were numerous clues pointing to that particular Oswald being a Lee Harvey Oswald impersonator, as follows:

• First, there is plenty of evidence pointing to the existence of an LHO impersonator.
• J. Edgar Hoover himself said in a memo that there was an LHO impersonator.
• The Bolton witness stated that he remembered the man referring to himself as Lee Oswald, not just Oswald
• The Bolton witness's description of the man matched LHO.
• The description of the Latino man with Oswald at Bolton matched the guy who was reportedly with Oswald on other occasions.
• The Oswald at the Bolton dealership had ties to an anti-Castro organization, just like LHO did.
• That anti-Castro organization had for its officers two men who were connected to Oswald.

Having pointed those things out...

Greg accuses Jim of not mentioning all the other other possible explanations for the seeming existence of a second Oswald at Bolton Ford. I think that Jim could likewise ask Greg why he didn't mention all the evidence I noted above. (Which is far more convincing than Fred Litwin's argument.) It is all contained in this thread.

One more thing concerning Greg's argument. He made a big deal about the six year lapse from the time of the Bolton incident to the testimony of the Bolton witness, six years being a long time to recall something. But that's a false argument. The Bolton witness recalled the name Lee Oswald only TWO years after the incident, in 1963. Then four years later he merely recalled what he had recalled four years earlier. He recalled that the guy who shot the president had visited his dealership two years prior. With which there was a big to-do about that. That's like remembering when you got married four years after your wedding date. Not a difficult thing to do.

 

[Sandy Larsen]

1 hour ago, Jonathan Cohen said:

Greg, don’t hold your breath. I cannot recall a single example of Jim Hargrove ever acknowledging that dozens of logical, plausible alternate explanations exist for his so-called evidence of a decades-long Oswald doppelgänger scheme. 

 

Nobody goes on and on listing every conceivable explanation for anything.

 

[Sandy Larsen]

It is my observation that people who are against something -- as opposed to being for something -- tend not to be willing to put much thought into their anti-something arguments before posting them. And so they come out looking like fools.

Only the most serious of scholars avoid that fate.

IMO

Edited January 31, 2022 by Sandy Larsen

[Jonathan Cohen]

8 minutes ago, Sandy Larsen said:

It is my observation that people who are against something -- as opposed to being for something -- tend not to be willing to put much thought into their anti-something arguments before posting them. And so they come out looking like fools.

Only the truest of serious scholars avoid that fate.

IMO

Speak for yourself, Sandy. The entire "Harvey and Lee" theory is easily debunked with any number of perfectly rational alternative explanations that don't require multiple Lee Harvey Oswalds, multiple Marguerite Oswalds and every document pertaining to them to be faked or falsified. I'm all for discussion of the evidence in support of Oswald having been impersonated in the lead-up to the assassination. This in no way validates the doppelganger scheme nor requires it. To lump it in that way does a disservice to the larger research community.

[Greg Doudna]

2 hours ago, Sandy Larsen said:

Why? Because there were numerous clues pointing to that particular Oswald being a Lee Harvey Oswald impersonator, as follows:

• First, there is plenty of evidence pointing to the existence of an LHO impersonator.
• J. Edgar Hoover himself said in a memo that there was an LHO impersonator.
• The Bolton witness stated that he remembered the man referring to himself as Lee Oswald, not just Oswald
• The Bolton witness's description of the man matched LHO.
• The description of the Latino man with Oswald at Bolton matched the guy who was reportedly with Oswald on other occasions.
• The Oswald at the Bolton dealership had ties to an anti-Castro organization, just like LHO did.
• That anti-Castro organization had for its officers two men who were connected to Oswald.

Having pointed those things out...

Greg accuses Jim of not mentioning all the other other possible explanations for the seeming existence of a second Oswald at Bolton Ford. I think that Jim could likewise ask Greg why he didn't mention all the evidence I noted above. (Which is far more convincing than Fred Litwin's argument.) It is all contained in this thread.

One more thing concerning Greg's argument. He made a big deal about the six year lapse from the time of the Bolton incident to the testimony of the Bolton witness, six years being a long time to recall something. But that's a false argument. The Bolton witness recalled the name Lee Oswald only TWO years after the incident, in 1963. Then four years later he merely recalled what he had recalled four years earlier. He recalled that the guy who shot the president had visited his dealership two years prior. With which there was a big to-do about that. That's like remembering when you got married four years after your wedding date. Not a difficult thing to do.

Sandy I have bolded above. Could you say where you are getting "the Bolton witness's description of the man matched LHO"? I do not see a claim of physical description identity, or match to an LHO photograph, in either of the two witnesses cited. The one of the two who does mention a physical description of the person he thought was the one named "Oswald" in 1961 he said had an "olive" complexion, the only physical feature named. That does not agree with LHO who was light complexion, white!

And how do you know the witness remembered the name "Lee" only two years after 1961? After hearing of the assassination in Nov 1963 they thought their "Oswald" named-person of 1961 may have been LHO (because of the name "Oswald"), but the first documentation of a claim of anyone there to remember their "Oswald" used a name "Lee" only first appears six years later, right? And that claim is from a witness who directly kept saying he was not sure of his memory, and referred the FBI agents to check the 1961 paperwork to verify what he thought he remembered as "Lee" written with "Oswald", which of course was not the case. His memory (six years later, four years after a rechecking of the paperwork in 1963) was simply mistaken. What not to like about that simple explanation (that he was mistaken)?

On your bullet points #6 and #7, that is correct. Lee Harvey Oswald was employed as a teenager by an employer who later is involved with that anti-Castro organization, and then Lee Harvey Oswald after his return from the Soviet Union in 1962 hooks up with Banister in New Orleans in summer 1963 who is also involved. Wasn't there a second Oswald, an uncle or cousin or something of LHO, also employed at Reilly Coffee company in New Orleans at the same time LHO got his job there? The Bolton Ford "Oswald" in 1961 certainly cannot be Lee Harvey Oswald who is son of Marguerite Oswald and brother of Robert Oswald because he was in the Soviet Union in 1961 and all of his family know he is there and none of his family know of him or any identical twin in Louisiana at that time. But there were plenty of other Oswalds in Louisiana in 1961. Again, why exclude one or another of the many Oswalds who actually are in Louisiana, in the United States, in 1961, as the identity of the Bolton Ford Oswald of 1961--assuming someone's true name was written down that day at Bolton Ford in 1961 as "Oswald"? 

And think about it: Lee Harvey Oswald never had much money or any track record of buying fleets of vehicles or financing of such. Lee Harvey Oswald had no known technical expertise in buying trucks in volume, ability to discuss specs and hardware and numbers and pricing. That does not sound like Lee Harvey Oswald at any time, let alone 1961 when he was in the Soviet Union. However it sounds a lot like a known Oswald in business immediately adjacent to Bolton Ford capable of walking a couple of customers over to Bolton Ford, then asking to make sure his name is noted on the pricing writeup as involved in the paperwork so as not to miss out on a referral commission or whatever.

The question remains: why reject that "Oswald" written on that Bolton Ford 1961 price writeup was a true name of someone named Oswald, but it was not Lee Harvey Oswald because he was in the Soviet Union? 

[Sandy Larsen]

43 minutes ago, Greg Doudna said:

Could you say where you are getting "the Bolton witness's description of the man matched LHO"? I do not see a claim of physical description identity, or match to an LHO photograph, in either of the two witnesses cited.

 

Greg,

In  the very first post of this thread, Jim makes this statement:

Sewell described Lee Oswald as, "5-foot-6 or 5-foot-7, thin, about 140 pounds, and thought he needed a meal and a haircut. He recalled that Oswald was clean but "wasn't well dressed and he wasn't shabby."

And below that is the document from which Jim got that information.

 

43 minutes ago, Greg Doudna said:

The one of the two who does mention a physical description of the person he thought was the one named "Oswald" in 1961 he said had an "olive" complexion, the only physical feature named. That does not agree with LHO who was light complexion, white!

 

The witness didn't say it was Oswald who was olive complected, but rather his partner, the stocky Latino guy.

In the first post of this thread, Jim makes this statement:

Sewell described the second man, who identified himself as Joseph Moore as, "Kind of heavy-set ..... not overly, but well built ..... he was curly haired ..... he had a scar over his left eye ..... olive complexioned and seemed to be educated ..... he had a Cuban accent and looked like a Cuban."

Jim didn't post the source document to back that up. But it is clear from other information in the posted documents that it was Oswald's companion, Joseph Moore, and not Oswald who had the olive complexion.

For example, the questioner asked the witness:

"(Not Understandable) Kind of a Latin type?"

And the witness replied:

"Kind of olive complexioned and he was, like I said, he was  a good technician. I've been in this business for about thirty years, and he knew his business and what he wanted to buy."

Because of the "not understandable" part, we can't tell which of the two guys he's talking about. But what we do know is that the witness was talking about the person who knew what he wanted in the trucks.

If we study the  documents, we see that Oswald is described as the "man with the money" whereas Moore is described as the the one "asking questions about the product" and who "listed equipment he desired on the trucks." Obviously the latter -- Moore -- is the one described by the witness as being "olive complexioned."

Furthermore...

Elsewhere in the documents the witness says the following about Oswald:

"...at that time he was white. He looked like he'd come out of Iceland or something like that."

 

43 minutes ago, Greg Doudna said:

And how do you know the witness remembered the name "Lee" only two years after 1961? After hearing of the assassination in Nov 1963 they thought their "Oswald" named-person of 1961 may have been LHO (because of the name "Oswald"), but the first documentation of a claim of anyone there to remember their "Oswald" used a name "Lee" only first appears six years later, right?

 

You mean to say that the Bolton witness realized in 1963 that the person who killed the president, Lee Harvey Oswald, was the very same person who had gotten a bid from him two years earlier, yet possibly didn't realize his first name was Lee until four years later when he was questioned for the trial?

Oh come on Greg!

Okay, I know that people have false memories now and then. But regardless of whether the Bolton witness's first-name recollection was false or real, it surely would have occurred in 1963 when he first identified his Oswald as the Oswald who killed JFK

 

43 minutes ago, Greg Doudna said:

The Bolton Ford "Oswald" in 1961 certainly cannot be Lee Harvey Oswald who is son of Marguerite Oswald and brother of Robert Oswald because he was in the Soviet Union in 1961 and all of his family know he is there and none of his family know of him or any identical twin in Louisiana at that time.

 

That's right. And that is why this Oswald has to be an LHO impersonator.

 

43 minutes ago, Greg Doudna said:

But there were plenty of other Oswalds in Louisiana in 1961. Again, why exclude one or another of the many Oswalds who actually are in Louisiana, in the United States, in 1961, as the identity of the Bolton Ford Oswald of 1961.

 

First, remember that there indeed was a LHO impersonator. Being an impersonator, it is reasonable to consider that he might have looked somewhat like LHO. Assuming that he did, he would be a great match for the Bolton Ford Oswald because

• The Bolton witness stated that he remembered the man referring to himself as Lee Oswald, not just Oswald
• The Bolton witness's description of the man matched LHO.
• The description of the Latino man with Oswald at Bolton matched the guy who was reportedly with Oswald on other occasions.
• The Oswald at the Bolton dealership had ties to an anti-Castro organization, just like LHO did.
• That anti-Castro organization had for its officers two men who were connected to LHO.

 

 

43 minutes ago, Greg Doudna said:

And think about it: Lee Harvey Oswald never had much money or any track record of buying fleets of vehicles or financing of such.

 

You're assuming that the Bolton Oswald's goal was to buy those trucks.

 

[John Butler]

Well, why exclude all those Oswalds in La.?  Why not?  Why not exclude all of Oswalds in Texas or for instance the Oswalds in Kentucky?  Here's why.

Lee Oswald was named and described by the Bolton Ford people.  It is a fact.  From the description he may not fit the description of the original Lee Harvey Oswald, but that description is just one person's memory based on what he remembered from 2 years earlier.  The describer could have been a big man who looked at others as smaller.  And, by doing so may have misjudged the height of Lee Oswald.  Now you have been shown the difference between fact and speculation.  The Oswald description is fact.  My suggestion about height is speculation.          

Harvey Oswald is in Russia at the time.  That leaves by logic, Lee in the US in La. or some Oswald imposter.  Was there Oswald imposters?  J. Edgar thought so.

It is a waste of time talking to you folks due to everything Jim or Sandy may say to you, you discount as nonsense and wonder off to some internet site for your convictions.  Your propaganda techniques don't work with people who can think logically.  Really, you guys bring up the silliest suggestions.  Here's just one:

3 hours ago, Sandy Larsen said:

And think about it: Lee Harvey Oswald never had much money or any track record of buying fleets of vehicles or financing of such.

Sandy didn't say that Greg Doudna did.  Did you ever consider Oswald may have been fronting anti-Castro groups?        

[Greg Doudna]

Sandy if you are saying the Bolton Ford 1961 Oswald was an impersonator, impersonation means pretending to be someone else. If he was pretending to be Lee Harvey Oswald the son of Marguerite Oswald in the Soviet Union at the time, what do you think that man's legal name was in the Bolton Ford in 1961?

If you are saying his legal name (the Bolton Ford 1961 Oswald) was "Lee Harvey Oswald" also, then how is that impersonation, if he was simply using his own correct true legal name?

When Hoover of FBI said there was a missing birth certificate of Lee Harvey Oswald in the Soviet Union and there was a possibility he was being impersonated, that was a statement of possibility, not a statement that Hoover knew that was happening. And if it was happening (which Hoover does not say in that statement), that would be impersonation by someone whose legal name was not Lee Harvey Oswald, but who (hypothetically) took that birth certificate of Lee Harvey Oswald and used it to create fictitious identification papers and falsely represent himself as if he was Lee Harvey Oswald.

But if there are two individuals actually carrying legal/true names "Lee Harvey Oswald"s--the true name of each of them--then neither is impersonating the other in any obvious sense simply by using their true name. For example, there is another "Gregory Doudna" (whom I have never met, and no known relation though there would certainly be a distant one since all Doudnas come from a common ancestor in the 1700s) who lives in California and is known for growing orchids. Same name as me, but neither of us is impersonating the other, even though by accident having the same names.

But you are talking impersonation, meaning you don't think the Bolton Ford 1961 Oswald really was born named Lee Harvey Oswald? But falsely claimed that n the Bolton Ford dealership as his name?

What do you suppose the 1961 Bolton Ford person's true name really was, who (as I understand it) you are saying falsely claimed to be Lee Harvey Oswald in the Soviet Union? 

Isn't it simpler to suppose the names on the bid sheet were true names?  

On the physical identification, I was working from the 1963 FBI interview of Oscar Deslatte who said he "could neither describe nor identify either of the men who came in". My question was poorly worded and should have made clear "in 1963". I agree that Sewell in 1967 claimed a physical identification memory that agrees with that of Lee Harvey Oswald in the Soviet Union in 1961. The question is whether that first known statement of Sewell in 1967 is an accurate or mistaken (manufactured) memory under the influence of the assassination in 1963, given that there is unambiguous evidence that Lee Harvey Oswald was in the Soviet Union in 1961, and there is no realistic possibility that the two could actually be the same individual in 1961.

 

[Sandy Larsen]

9 minutes ago, Greg Doudna said:

Sandy if you are saying the Bolton Ford 1961 Oswald was an impersonator, impersonation means pretending to be someone else. If he was pretending to be Lee Harvey Oswald the son of Marguerite Oswald in the Soviet Union at the time, what do you think that man's legal name was in the Bolton Ford in 1961?

If you are saying his legal name (the Bolton Ford 1961 Oswald) was "Lee Harvey Oswald" also, then how is that impersonation, if he was simply using his own correct true legal name?

 

Greg,

There is a large body of evidence indicating that 1) LHO was a CIA agent, and 2) he used the same name as at least one other CIA asset who was his double. In other words, the two guys some of us call Harvey and Lee. There may have been other doubles as well, and in fact my opinion is that there were.

Evidence indicates that Harvey and Lee were both legally named Lee Harvey Oswald. Evidence and some reasoning indicates that the one we call Harvey (i.e. the one shot by Ruby) changed his name from something (we don't know what) to Lee Harvey Oswald when he was a child. If there were other doubles, my opinion is that they were short-term and therefore not likely to have legally changed their names.

 

9 minutes ago, Greg Doudna said:

When Hoover of FBI said there was a missing birth certificate of Lee Harvey Oswald in the Soviet Union and there was a possibility he was being impersonated, that was a statement of possibility, not a statement that Hoover knew that was happening.

 

When one cannot locate a birth certificate for someone, one doesn't automatically suspect that therefore someone might be impersonating the person. Hoover likely had some reason to believe that there was a good possibility that there was an impersonation going on.

 

9 minutes ago, Greg Doudna said:

...there is unambiguous evidence that Lee Harvey Oswald was in the Soviet Union in 1961, and there is no realistic possibility that the two could actually be the same individual in 1961.

 

That's right. Which is why we don't believe that the Bolton Ford Oswald was the real Oswald, the one who was killed by Ruby.

 

[John Butler]

3 hours ago, Sandy Larsen said:

That's right. Which is why we don't believe that the Bolton Ford Oswald was the real Oswald, the one who was killed by Ruby.

I go along with that simply because there is not sufficient evidence to say something different.  But, here's one of the areas I get into trouble with the Harvey and Lee folks.  It can't be proven that Harvey Oswald had suicide scars on his left wrist.  Only two people have made that comment.  Dr. Earl Rose in Harvey's autopsy and Marina Oswald.  J. Edgar Hoover was unhappy with this.  At first he may have believed that Oswald's suicide event in Russia was a ploy to stay there.  But in the 4-page, March 20, 1964 FBI report to the WC he was looking for confirmation for these scars.  He didn't get it.  The Secret Service and FBI looked at Rose's autopsy photos and didn't see any scars on the left wrist.

There is reason to suspect the truthfulness of Rose and Marina.  Earl Rose is an interesting character.  He gets the job as chief autopsy official for the city and county of Dallas, if I am recalling right in the summer (I believe July) of 1963.  That's just in time to do the autopsy of Kennedy, Tippit, Oswald, and Ruby or any other that was necessary.  He didn't do the Kennedy autopsy.  He did the others very quickly.  He did not sit on the bench long.  All were done within 1-2 hours of their death.

Edited January 31, 2022 by John Butler

[Jim Hargrove]

Find it hard to believe that Lee Harvey Oswald was impersonated at Bolton Ford?

Do you suppose this sort of thing happened at other times and places?

Back in 1960, J. Edgar Hoover wrote, “there is a possibility that an imposter is using Oswald’s birth certificate.

Less than a year later, the State Department’s Edward J. Hickey wrote, “it has been stated that there in an imposter using Oswald’s identification data….”

" 

At 10 AM on the morning following the Kennedy assassination, President Lyndon Johnson and FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover discussed the state of the case over the telephone. Hoover stated, in unequivocal terms, that LHO had been impersonated in Mexico City.

"No, that’s one angle that’s very confusing, for this reason—we have up here the tape and the photograph of the man who was at the Soviet embassy, using Oswald’s name. That picture and the tape do not correspond to this man’s voice, nor to his appearance. In other words, it appears that there is a second person who was at the Soviet embassy down there."  [Listen to the conversation here.] 

The HSCA threatened Marita Lorenz with prison and forced a retraction after she testified under oath that she worked with LHO in Florida, and saw Alex Rorke take pictures of him, at the same time another LHO was in the Soviet Union.

Also while one LHO was in Russia, there are credible reports that another LHO was active in New York City at the same time.

During this same period, while one LHO was in Russia, another was actually arrested in New Orleans, along with Celso Henandez.  See a Garrison report here.

The Bolton Ford incident, and others involving Oswald in the U.S. at the same time he was in Russia, occurred during this same time frame.

Later, weeks before the assassination, Texas Employment Commission employee Laura Kittrell interviewed two different young men, both of whom claimed to be LHO.  She told the HSCA’s Gaeton Fonzi that the two young men “were much alike in size, shape and outline, [but] generally, there was a marked difference between them in bearing and manner.” 

And, as all researchers know, LHO was impersonated time and time again in and around Dallas during the weeks leading up to the assassination.  These impersonations were depicted in the famous 1973 motion picture entitled “Executive Action,” which starred Burt Lancaster, Robert Ryan, and Will Geer.

Isn’t it amazing that America’s most infamous “Lone Nut” was impersonated time and time again?  The Bolton Ford incident was just one of dozens of other examples.  Doesn’t this seem odd?  Do you suppose there could be a simpler explanation?

 

Edited February 1, 2022 by Jim Hargrove

[Steve Thomas]

1 hour ago, Jim Hargrove said:

Find it hard to believe that Lee Harvey Oswald was impersonated at Bolton Ford?

Isn’t it amazing that America’s most infamous “Lone Nut” was impersonated time and time again?  The Bolton Ford incident was just one of dozens of other examples.

 

Jim,

In the last days of March, 1963...

CD 1020 p. 13

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11416#relPageId=15&tab=page

Allegedly, Jerry Buchanan and Oswald get into a fight on a dock when Oswald insists on boarding a boat headed out on anti-Castro (bombing?) mission to Cuba.

Page 14: He (being Jerry's brother, James Buchanan)…

Steve Thomas

[David Boylan]

I wouldn't trust a word that came of Buchanan's mouth. He was, of course, associated with John Martino, Frank Sturgis, Felipe Vidal, Gerry Hemming and trained at No Name Key with Colonel William Bishop.