Peter Dale Scott on “Harvey Lee Oswald”

[Jim Hargrove]

Back in 1996, Peter Dale Scott prepared a list of References to “Harvey Lee Oswald.”  It was forwarded to John A. and can be read in it’s entirety at the link below to Baylor University’s JFK/John Armstrong Collection.

This is a lengthy PDF file and Mr. Scott’s list appears on pp. 28-36, although there are a number of other interesting documents in the file.

Probably the easiest way to read this is to download the whole “Harv or Harvey” file.  Just click the DOWNLOAD button, select “Full Asset,” and click Download again.

CLICK HERE FOR ACCESS

 

[John Butler]

Jim,

That is a lot of references for Harvey Lee Oswald going back years before the JFKA.

Any idea who Donald Andrew Wolf was?  The letter is strange with Wolf claiming best bud status with Oswald, and him being one of only 10 friends of Oswald.

Edited May 19, 2022 by John Butler

[John Butler]

Jim,

I thought this was interesting and would make the LNers sit up and pay attention.

Harvey Lee the Hit Man.

Edited May 19, 2022 by John Butler

[Jim Hargrove]

2 hours ago, John Butler said:

Jim,

That is a lot of references for Harvey Lee Oswald going back years before the JFKA.

Any idea who Donald Andrew Wolf was?  The letter is strange with Wolf claiming best bud status with Oswald, and him being one of only 10 friends of Oswald.

I was wondering about him too.  He isn't mentioned in H&L and that handwritten letter and envelope are the only things I can remember ever seeing about him.  Weird...

...but not as weird as the Harvey Lee "Tex" business.  As you know, John A. thinks American-born LEE was a killer.  Sheesh!

Steve Thomas has got this Harvey Lee tiger by the tail, but who knows where it will lead, if anywhere.  

[Steve Thomas]

1 hour ago, Jim Hargrove said:

Steve Thomas has got this Harvey Lee tiger by the tail, but who knows where it will lead, if anywhere.  

Jim,

I have compiled 49 different instances of the use of the name.

Steve Thomas

[John Butler]

7 hours ago, Jim Hargrove said:

...but not as weird as the Harvey Lee "Tex" business.  As you know, John A. thinks American-born LEE was a killer.  Sheesh!

I've always thought that Harvey Oswald and Lee Oswald could be anything.  I believe when they were taken to New York as teens they were taken directly into the MKUltra program.  They were there for years.  John A. maybe right in his thoughts concerning Lee.  Harvey was no squish either.  The DPD knew that and had their biggest men guarding Harvey at the DPD.  From a movie, Harvey was like what Ernest Borgnine called Frank Sinatra, a tough monkey,

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[Jim Hargrove]

13 hours ago, Steve Thomas said:

Jim,

I have compiled 49 different instances of the use of the name.

Steve Thomas

Steve,

I was hoping you’d see this and take a look at John A’s “Harv or Harvey” file, which includes Peter Dale Scott's list.  It’s all more than 20 years old, but there might be some stuff you haven't seen yet.

[Jim Hargrove]

8 hours ago, John Butler said:

I've always thought that Harvey Oswald and Lee Oswald could be anything.  I believe when they were taken to New York as teens they were taken directly into the MKUltra program

John,

You probably already know that Louise Robinson, employed for six weeks in 1953 by Marguerite to clean house in her New York City apartment, claimed that Marguerite told her that she had brought her son to New York so that he could have mental tests performed at the Jacobi Hospital.

This was certainly the era of MK/ULTRA.

[John Butler]

4 hours ago, Jim Hargrove said:

John,

You probably already know that Louise Robinson, employed for six weeks in 1953 by Marguerite to clean house in her New York City apartment, claimed that Marguerite told her that she had brought her son to New York so that he could have mental tests performed at the Jacobi Hospital.

This was certainly the era of MK/ULTRA.

I think I once voiced the opinion why would Marguerite choose New York when there were competent psychological people In Dallas or New Orleans.  I answered that it is as said above in another quote, MK/Ultra.  

She must have been ordered to do such.  I think that ties in with Harvey's rebellion and trip to a far western state, Nebraska or some such.

OBTW, I head is clearing up from the opiods.  Gone are the pleasant moods with sun-shiny days with expansive blue skies and clouds.  Now, I am returning to my surly, sour, and darker mood.  Just kidding.

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[Jonathan Cohen]

3 hours ago, John Butler said:

I think I once voiced the opinion why would Marguerite choose New York when there were competent psychological people In Dallas or New Orleans.  I answered that it is as said above in another quote, MK/Ultra.  

She must have been ordered to do such.  I think that ties in with Harvey's rebellion and trip to a far western state, Nebraska or some such.

John once again conjures the fanciful loud-mouthed spy version of Marguerite Oswald (was it the "attractive" one? or the "short, dumpy" one?), who apparently just couldn't resist mentioning vital operational details of her "orders" to a cleaning lady she'd just met. Boy, the CIA sure picked some top-notch operatives for their doppelganger missions, didn't they?

[Rick McTague]

On 5/18/2022 at 3:03 PM, Jim Hargrove said:

Back in 1996, Peter Dale Scott prepared a list of References to “Harvey Lee Oswald.”  It was forwarded to John A. and can be read in it’s entirety at the link below to Baylor University’s JFK/John Armstrong Collection.

This is a lengthy PDF file and Mr. Scott’s list appears on pp. 28-36, although there are a number of other interesting documents in the file.

Probably the easiest way to read this is to download the whole “Harv or Harvey” file.  Just click the DOWNLOAD button, select “Full Asset,” and click Download again.

CLICK HERE FOR ACCESS

 

Jim,

I'm not sure which was arrested by the police at the Texas Theater, Harvey or Lee, while other was led out of the back of the theater.  If the back of the theater Oswald was "Harvey", does his trail end with the Robert Vinson story?  Do you have any info on his ("Harvey's") trail from the back of the theater, to the makeshift field near the Trinity River where Vinson's encounter begins, and afterwards?  

Thanks

[Paul Brancato]

Question for Harvey and Lee folks - who did Marina marry? 

[Jim Hargrove]

1 hour ago, Rick McTague said:

Jim,

I'm not sure which was arrested by the police at the Texas Theater, Harvey or Lee, while other was led out of the back of the theater.  If the back of the theater Oswald was "Harvey", does his trail end with the Robert Vinson story?  Do you have any info on his ("Harvey's") trail from the back of the theater, to the makeshift field near the Trinity River where Vinson's encounter begins, and afterwards?  

Thanks

Hi, Rick,

We think American-born LEE Oswald was escorted out the back of the theater, may well have been seen in a car with Carl Mather’s license plate (the Wes Wise allegation) and afterward may also have been seen boarding a C-54 cargo plane by Robert Vinson.  Russian-speaking HARVEY Oswald, however, was a long-term impostor who was shot dead by Jack Ruby, and is the man most people think they know.

Here’s John’s brief write-up on Vinson from our website:
 

The fate of HARVEY Oswald, in Dallas Police custody until he was killed by Jack Ruby, is well-known.  But LEE Oswald's whereabouts following the assassination became increasingly difficult to follow.  One intriguing account of his possible escape from the Dallas area comes from a  decorated U.S. Air Force 20-year veteran named Robert Vinson.  Vinson said that on the afternoon of November 22 he was a passenger on a nearly deserted C-54 cargo plane that departed from Andrews Air Force Base in Maryland. Soon after the assassination the plane was diverted and landed on what appeared to be a road under construction near the Trinity River south of Dallas.  There, Vinson said, a Jeep carrying two men and a driver pulled up to the plane and two passengers came aboard.  Vinson said the taller man might have been Cuban, and, after he saw televised pictures of Lee HARVEY Oswald, he felt the shorter man "looked an awful lot like Oswald."  The flight continued to an Air Force Base in Roswell, New Mexico, where all the passengers deplaned.  Vinson said he was told the entire base was on lockdown until later in the evening. Click here for Part 2 of the YouTube interview with Vinson.  Additional background information on Vinson is in Part 1 of the interview, also on YouTube.
 

 

Robert Vinson

 

2 minutes ago, Paul Brancato said:

Question for Harvey and Lee folks - who did Marina marry? 

Paul,

Marina married Russian-speaking Harvey Oswald.

[Paul Brancato]

2 hours ago, Jim Hargrove said:

Hi, Rick,

We think American-born LEE Oswald was escorted out the back of the theater, may well have been seen in a car with Carl Mather’s license plate (the Wes Wise allegation) and afterward may also have been seen boarding a C-54 cargo plane by Robert Vinson.  Russian-speaking HARVEY Oswald, however, was a long-term impostor who was shot dead by Jack Ruby, and is the man most people think they know.

Here’s John’s brief write-up on Vinson from our website:
 

The fate of HARVEY Oswald, in Dallas Police custody until he was killed by Jack Ruby, is well-known.  But LEE Oswald's whereabouts following the assassination became increasingly difficult to follow.  One intriguing account of his possible escape from the Dallas area comes from a  decorated U.S. Air Force 20-year veteran named Robert Vinson.  Vinson said that on the afternoon of November 22 he was a passenger on a nearly deserted C-54 cargo plane that departed from Andrews Air Force Base in Maryland. Soon after the assassination the plane was diverted and landed on what appeared to be a road under construction near the Trinity River south of Dallas.  There, Vinson said, a Jeep carrying two men and a driver pulled up to the plane and two passengers came aboard.  Vinson said the taller man might have been Cuban, and, after he saw televised pictures of Lee HARVEY Oswald, he felt the shorter man "looked an awful lot like Oswald."  The flight continued to an Air Force Base in Roswell, New Mexico, where all the passengers deplaned.  Vinson said he was told the entire base was on lockdown until later in the evening. Click here for Part 2 of the YouTube interview with Vinson.  Additional background information on Vinson is in Part 1 of the interview, also on YouTube.
 

 

Robert Vinson

 

Paul,

Marina married Russian-speaking Harvey Oswald.

And she never met Lee? 

[Jonathan Cohen]

4 minutes ago, Paul Brancato said:

And she never met Lee? 

I'm glad you've asked this question, Paul. "Harvey and Lee" adherents have at various points claimed, without a shred of evidence, that Marina was "in on the plot" involving two distinct Oswalds and that she was intimately familiar with both doppelgangers. Not to mention their belief in multiple Marguerite Oswalds running amok across the United States for years ...