David Mamet to direct "2/Days/1963" about Sam Giancana's Role in JFK's Murder

[Benjamin Cole]

On 7/16/2022 at 12:42 PM, Tom Gram said:

What items of evidence do you find most compelling that support that Marcello was behind the assassination? 

I’ve always thought that the mob could have operated as contractors similar to the Castro plots, but I’m skeptical of the idea that Marcello alone could have set up  Oswald and orchestrated an elaborate  cover-up. 

I was intrigued by your recent comments on Black Op Radio about still-withheld FBI mafia files though, and am interested in learning more about mob involvement. 

Ditto.

The whole LHO biography-build, and then subsequent JFKA cover-up, was surely beyond the ken of the Mob. 

I can imagine a possible CIA plan to use certain Mob individuals as contractors, and there were some people, such as Eladio Del Valle and Hermininio Diaz, who moved in both circles. Indeed, Cubans in the US were thick into drugs and gun-running, and of course, former Mob casino operations in Havana. 

David Ferrie is another, working for Marcello during his trial in N.O., and also an active CIA pilot. 

But remember Robert Blakey (HSCA) was a mob-hunter, had a good run at it, and yet did not find anything conclusively. Later, Blakey concluded he had been hoodwinked by the CIA, not the Mob. 

Interesting topic.  

[Mark Groubert]

Just a word about Dorthy K. She had almost 2 years (18 months) before her death and after her Ruby "interview" to spill the beans, get a book deal, write in her column, tell the world what she learned. No woman had more access to media at that time. She said nothing. Most of her previous columns about the assassination were fed to her by her own Deep Throat - Mark Lane. She had been to rehab for drugs and alcohol previously. She was a heavy drinker. She took pills. She had failed romances. She appeared drunk during one of her final appearances on 'What's My Line', slurring her words on camera. She did what many suicide victims do that I knew. They clean up their room and make themselves up to look their best concerned about how they will look when found. This is more true for women.

[James DiEugenio]

Nice to see you Mark.

If you do not know, Mark is an actual published journalist.  He can name his own credits.

I am really glad you noted that about Kilgallen.  Because Mark Shaw is trying to make a JFK career out of this. So its good to hear the contra.

Edited July 25, 2022 by James DiEugenio

[Max Good]

I didn't realize Mamet had become an arch-conservative. 

https://www.hoover.org/research/david-mamet-conservatism

His book: https://www.amazon.com/Secret-Knowledge-Dismantling-American-Culture/dp/1595230971

Check out some of these quotes:

https://thenewamerican.com/david-mamet-how-a-liberal-playwright-became-a-conservative/

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Our culture is being destroyed by the Left…. The Left embraces Socialism, the herd mentality of slavery, as it offers the, to them, incalculable benefit of freedom from thought…. Our politicians, left and right, are, to belabor the metaphor, the wastrel son: they are free to spend, to chase fantasies, and to squander resources, for the resources are not theirs, and there is no penalty for their misuse or loss.

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The great fault of my generation is ingratitude. The ignorance stemming therefrom leads to folly destructive of the very world which, while it may not be the unachievable, inchoate utopia the Left desires, is a wonderful place to live in, and has given us a great country.

My ungrateful generation, rich and poor, has been living off a trust fund: the productivity of our parents, and of the 200 or more years of those who preceded them.

 

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All the old canards can be found, as if new-discovered, today on the nearby Volvo: “The Population Explosion: It’s Your Baby”; “Wind Power”; “War Is Not the Answer”; “Coexist.” No wonder the Left embraces Socialism, the largest myth of modern times and the most easily debunked; for it is a religion, and the tests of actual membership in any religion are likely to include an endorsement of their Foundation Myths….

It is to a dramatist, which is to say, to an unfrocked psychoanalyst, stunning that that which has sustained the Left in my generation, its avatar, its prime issue, has been abortion. For, whether or not it is regarded as a woman’s right, an unfortunate necessity, or murder, which is to say, irrespective of differing and legitimate political views, to enshrine it as the most important test of the Liberal, is, mythologically, an assertion to the ultimate right of a postreligious Paganism.

 

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America is a Christian country. Its Constitution is the distillation of the wisdom and experience of Christian men, in a tradition whose codification is the Bible…. The result of a 230-year-long experiment is the triumph of Judeo-Christian values. We have created peace and plenty for more citizens over a greater period of time than that enjoyed by any other group in history.

This triumph is not due to altruism, nor to empathy, nor to compassion, but to adherence to those practicable, rational rules for successful human interaction set out in the Bible.

 

 

[Joe Bauer]

On 7/24/2022 at 11:15 PM, Mark Groubert said:

Just a word about Dorthy K. She had almost 2 years (18 months) before her death and after her Ruby "interview" to spill the beans, get a book deal, write in her column, tell the world what she learned. No woman had more access to media at that time. She said nothing. Most of her previous columns about the assassination were fed to her by her own Deep Throat - Mark Lane. She had been to rehab for drugs and alcohol previously. She was a heavy drinker. She took pills. She had failed romances. She appeared drunk during one of her final appearances on 'What's My Line', slurring her words on camera. She did what many suicide victims do that I knew. They clean up their room and make themselves up to look their best concerned about how they will look when found. This is more true for women.

I seldom respond critically to other member's postings here ( even when I disagree with their postulations ) because their knowledge and research is almost always much greater and more advanced than mine.

However, I am going to have a go with MG's Dorothy Kilgallen's post above.

I am sure Kilgallen knew full well she was dealing with the murder case of the century. Maybe the most important in American history.

One with ramification importance beyond anything she had ever committed to by far.

Her JFK/Oswald/Ruby investigation story made the Sam Sheppard one and her high society gossip articles seem like Manhattan cocktail party fluff.

Of course Kilgallen took as long as she did with her investigation. If she didn't get it right, she could be ruined.

And I am certain that the deeper she got into the case she more and more sensed she was treading into serious life and death threat waters, which would also explain her holding off with her findings. It would also explain how stressed she was the last year of her life.

The proposal that Kilgallen's death scene was as it was possibly because suicide victims sometimes tidy up their surroundings and their personal dress to present a less traumatic discovery experience made me laugh it is so ... well, off-the-wall arbitrary?

If Killgallen wanted to kill herself isn't it logical that she would do so in a less silly way than simply mixing booze ( from a glass that was beyond her reach ) and taking pills while laying fully dressed, made up with even her eyes lashes and hair piece on, propped up and reading an upside down book in a bedroom and bed she hardly ever used? And leaving her air conditioner on full blast while doing so?

No suicide note? Leaving her son ( whom she loved deeply ) to carry a heart breaking weight the rest of his life wondering how his loving mother could choose to abandon him in such a cold, unexplained way?

No way Jose.

Kilgallen drank too much? Took sleeping pills off and on?

Was she drunk and sleeping pill loopy when she told her friend Ms. Smith she was going to blow the Ruby case wide open?

Or the same when she asked her confidant hair dresser to keep tabs on her when she was to go to New Orleans ( Carlos Marcello country ) to meet a mysterious person there?

DK did release info about the WC findings. She didn't hold that back. Hoover was furious about that leak.

And of course she would want to link up with Mark Lane. The man knew more about the WC and JFK characters at that time than most everyone else.

DK's boyfriend during her last days was a proven shady character. His suspiciously ominous poems about DK are fact.

He wasn't attracted to Kilgallen physically I think we can all agree. He was handsome enough to attract women of much more appeal. So, why keep romancing DK?

Come on...his doing so was totally suspect.

Mark Shaw has locked up his Killgallen story like a bone protecting pitbull.

My "guess" is he has held off selling movie rights because his price just hasn't been met. I could be wrong with that guess.

However, Shaw didn't create that Killgallen death bed scene.

One that was so obviously and illogically poorly staged, it is a leap of laughably ludicrous faith to believe it wasn't. IMO...anyways.

 

Edited July 27, 2022 by Joe Bauer

[James DiEugenio]

Max:

Yes, Mamet's conversion was very well noted a few years back.

At the lunch with me and Oliver, this did not come up at all.

 

 

[Michael Davidson]

21 hours ago, Max Good said:

I didn't realize Mamet had become an arch-conservative. 

https://www.hoover.org/research/david-mamet-conservatism

His book: https://www.amazon.com/Secret-Knowledge-Dismantling-American-Culture/dp/1595230971

Check out some of these quotes:

https://thenewamerican.com/david-mamet-how-a-liberal-playwright-became-a-conservative/

 

He should list all the countries America has invaded and all the people its murdered