Douglas Caddy Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 (edited) David Mamet To Direct ‘2 Days/1963’, About Sam Giancana’s Role In JFK Murder – Deadline Edited July 15, 2022 by Douglas Caddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted July 15, 2022 Author Share Posted July 15, 2022 Our thanks to Bill Kelly for bringing this news story to our attention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Cohen Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Douglas Caddy said: David Mamet To Direct ‘2 Days/1963’, About Sam Giancana’s Role In JFK Murder – Deadline Weirdly, I started a thread about this a couple weeks ago, and not a single person replied. I was entertained by Oliver Stone's take on the subject, but I'm eager to see what a director of Mamet's caliber will do with it. Edited July 16, 2022 by Jonathan Cohen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence Schnapf Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 John Davis developed some compelling evidence that Marcello was behind the assassination with has been supplemented by Lamar Waldron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 The JFK film Mamet refers to that had Kate Blanchette signed onto 10 years ago had a working title - "Blackbird." It was so close to greenlighting. It was mentioned in "Variety." The premise was something like Blanchette ( an Australian I believe-which she is ) returns to America to settle the affairs of a late uncle ( or great uncle?) who happened to be one of the best makeup/special effects film men of his era. In going through her uncle's estate she discovers he had something to do with the JFK assassination relative to the use of his mastered skills. I was really upset when it was reported that the production fell through. What a loss. I also have been saddened that a film about the Super NY CITY based celebrity columnist Dorothy Kilgallen was never made. Starring Meryl Streep. What a story that would be. Ending with Kilgallen's sinister murder just before she was "going to crack the Jack Ruby story wide open." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Gram Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 38 minutes ago, Lawrence Schnapf said: John Davis developed some compelling evidence that Marcello was behind the assassination with has been supplemented by Lamar Waldron. What items of evidence do you find most compelling that support that Marcello was behind the assassination? I’ve always thought that the mob could have operated as contractors similar to the Castro plots, but I’m skeptical of the idea that Marcello alone could have set up Oswald and orchestrated an elaborate cover-up. I was intrigued by your recent comments on Black Op Radio about still-withheld FBI mafia files though, and am interested in learning more about mob involvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 (edited) I think that who ever set it up, the cover-up proces by FBI, CIA, etc would be there anyway. All of the agencies had been in contact with Oswald (one way or another, long or short term), and given his background. Pat has written some good stuff on what agency covered up for what reason, they all had misc. . Especially the FBI had a bunch of reason's to be ashamed (not knowing what was going on in Mexico, Hosty being almost buddies with Marina, Oswald writing a (real or fake) letter to the FBI, etc. CIA wanted to cover-up... well...it's kinda in their genetics... but now they were taken in their own game... oops... The mob would have gone after Robert (well... unfortunately... etc). And within the USA I'd go after the military complex combined with oil-industry. Edited July 16, 2022 by Jean Paul Ceulemans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Gallaway Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Tom Gram said: What items of evidence do you find most compelling that support that Marcello was behind the assassination? I’ve always thought that the mob could have operated as contractors similar to the Castro plots, but I’m skeptical of the idea that Marcello alone could have set up Oswald and orchestrated an elaborate cover-up. I was intrigued by your recent comments on Black Op Radio about still-withheld FBI mafia files though, and am interested in learning more about mob involvement. Tom: As I recall, Waldron's take is the government covered up for the mob in order to hide their ties with them and that's reason enough for them to coverup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 Jim Di had lunch with David Mamet and Oliver Stone not too long ago. Wonder if this project came up during their get together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted July 16, 2022 Author Share Posted July 16, 2022 12 hours ago, Lawrence Schnapf said: John Davis developed some compelling evidence that Marcello was behind the assassination with has been supplemented by Lamar Waldron. 6/19/61-BROWNSVILLE, TEXAS - Carlos Marcello, alleged former boss of New Orleans underworld, talks with Border Patrol Inspector Les Hasker at International Airport here 6/19 noon prior to flying to New Orleans via Houston. It is reported that Marcello will be released on bail while awaiting deportation hearings in New Orleans, set for 6/29. (UPI TELEPHOTO) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 (edited) Cold blooded murderers those Mafia Dons. Murder was their business. Their ultimate power acquiring tool. And they (dozens of them all across America) got away with this most diabolical deed ( by the thousands) ... for decades! Our highest level law enforcement agencies could not significantly diminish their influence, wealth and power all that time? J. Edgar Hoover...hello! Where are you? Edited July 16, 2022 by Joe Bauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 (edited) Mamet did not mention this at all during our lunch. So odds are it came up later. Please with Lamar Waldron 🥵 https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-reviews/ultimate-sacrifice https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-reviews/legacy-of-secrecy-by-lamar-waldron-with-thom-hartmann Edited July 16, 2022 by James DiEugenio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 (edited) What is odd about this is that the Mob did it guys usually accent Trafficante and Marcello. Not Giancana. I mean this must be an extension of that fairy tale Double Cross. Which even Bob Blakey found unsatisfactory. I mean the idea that Bobby Kennedy was going to be called off of Giancana after he had pursued him for years on end, making fun of him in the senate, and even having four FBI guys follow him around a golf course, to the point Giancana complained to a judge, I mean that is science fiction. https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-reviews/matt-stevenson-counterpunch-and-double-cross If you read this you will see that, according to the statistical tally, the thesis of the fairy tale, more votes for Kennedy, is not accurate. But the MSM is so eager to grasp at this kind of sensationalistic crap they they accept it without analysis. And you will see that the other thesis, about Giancana owning the contract for Monroe, was also false. Edited July 16, 2022 by James DiEugenio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Gram Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, James DiEugenio said: Mamet did not mention this at all during our lunch. So odds are it came up later. Please with Lamar Waldron 🥵 https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-reviews/ultimate-sacrifice https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-reviews/legacy-of-secrecy-by-lamar-waldron-with-thom-hartmann I read part of one of Waldron’s books, and it was so atrocious on New Orleans I almost couldn’t believe it. He basically just told the reader to just trust him that Oswald was working for Marcello, and used dubious if not fully discredited sources repeatedly as if their word was gospel. It was awful. I also question the credibility of an incarcerated mob super-boss suddenly deciding to spill the beans on the JFKA over twenty years later after befriending his lowly cellmate. Is it not more likely that Marcello either: a) was full of it; or b) knew he was being bugged and decided to have some fun? I’m open to some of his revelations being legitimate if they can be independently corroborated, but I’d need some seriously compelling evidence to really buy into the idea that Marcello could have orchestrated the assassination beyond being some sort of low-level asset. The impression I got of Waldron is that he views the mob angle as more marketable than anything suggesting government involvement. His approach to the evidence, from the bit I’ve read, is biased as all hell; and it seems like he’s a lot more interested in (literally) selling his theory than accuracy, IMO. Edited July 16, 2022 by Tom Gram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 (edited) Waldron insinuated that he had those CAMTEX documents first. He did not. The legendary Peter Vea sent them to me years before. Its pretty clear that Marcello was suffering from dementia. The guards said how weird he was acting, and by the time he was released, he was out of it. The other big thing that Gus Russo was using, the BRILAB tapes, that ended up being a dry well. John Volz told me that he had an ace agent listen to those, and he said there was nothing there about the JFK case of any relevancy. Then Jeremy Gunn sent me some of the actual tapes he had heard that further made the point. And then there was Ragano with Trafficante driving to meet him over 200 miles away while on kidney dialysis with a bag. These guys never give up though, no. matter how many times they are beaten down. The Giancana family simply found a meal ticket because the MSM bought into that pile of sludge. They even included Exner. Edited July 17, 2022 by James DiEugenio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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