Matt Allison Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 uh, yeah, this is creepy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Fake Biden robocalls in New Hampshire linked to Texas companies, officials say | New Hampshire | The Guardian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Larsen Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 On 2/5/2024 at 7:20 PM, Douglas Caddy said: The best morning show on MSNBC is Morning Joe with Joe Scarborough weekdays who covers a number of topics from 5 a.m. to 9 a.m. CT. I love to watch Joe go on one of his anti-Trump tirades. Very entertaining! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Larsen Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 On 2/6/2024 at 12:28 AM, Kirk Gallaway said: I don't watch any show every day. I thought the hardest hitting guy on MSNBC was Meidi Asan, but he was too anti Israel and got booted off the network. I agree 100%. A great interviewer... no softball with him. On 2/6/2024 at 12:28 AM, Kirk Gallaway said: I like Stephanie Ruhle, Nicole Wallace, though I don't get too much chance to see her, and Alex Wagner. Alex Wagner is sooooo good looking! But her show isn't one of my favorites. On 2/6/2024 at 12:28 AM, Kirk Gallaway said: I've never quite understood Rachael Maddow's popularity that she is by far the highest paid of the non Fox talent, and she can now make more than any of the others and work one day a week! Rachel Maddow is good for people who don't read enough news to understand the nuances. She studies and educates herself on a topic at hand, and then summaries it for her viewers. I wish she were still on every day. On 2/6/2024 at 12:28 AM, Kirk Gallaway said: I was glad they dumped blowhard Chris Matthews for talking about Bernie in early 2020 as if he was some sort of evil socialist figure, but he was really talking for the MSNBC program managers who thought Biden was the only candidate who could beat Trump. I guess that will always be a matter of controversy. I'm glad they dumped Chris Matthews too, but for different reasons. First, for knowing that Iraq had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks, but pretending dumb instead of informing his audience. (I guess so he'd have the resulting war to report on.) And second, for the condescending/mocking way he treated David Talbot when he interviewed him about his book Brothers. And you're right... he's a blowhard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Coincidentally, Kevin Drum just posted a scathing review of the current stooges at Fox News. As usual, Kevin hits the nail squarely on the head. Yes, Fox News has gotten even worse – Kevin Drum (jabberwocking.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Students on hunger strike call for Brown University to divest from pro-Israel companies | US universities | The Guardian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 3 hours ago, Douglas Caddy said: Students on hunger strike call for Brown University to divest from pro-Israel companies | US universities | The Guardian Well, good for these students. When I was an undergrad at Brown in the 70s, I participated in the student movement protesting South African apartheid, referenced in this Guardian article. Nothing major, but I think I ended up on an FBI watch list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Tomorrow the Supreme Court addresses the issue of whether or not Trump is disqualified from the ballot under the 14th Amendment. I'm not a lawyer! But while people are suggesting that this issue will decided by things like arguing whether POTUS is an officer of the government or etc., I suggest the following: Insurrection is a chargeable crime: https://codes.findlaw.com/us/title-18-crimes-and-criminal-procedure/18-usc-sect-2383.html Trump has not been charged with, much less convicted of, this crime. Now, to all of us, of course Trump appears guilty of insurrection. But we don't adjudicate things via the eye-test in this country. So I think the SC will say that Trump is indeed an officer of the government, and would indeed be ineligible to be President again if he was found guilty of insurrection. But he has not. And that is how they will extract themselves, and the country, from this burden and potential sh*tshow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Gallaway Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 3 hours ago, Matt Allison said: So I think the SC will say that Trump is indeed an officer of the government, and would indeed be ineligible to be President again if he was found guilty of insurrection. But he has not. Right, they couldn't get a 2/3rds majority. Though I'm not sure the charge was technically for leading an insurrection. And he hasn't been found guilty by the courts. So would conviction by Jack Smith automatically fulfill his ineligibility? Somehow, i don't think so. They've been talking that technically Trump could be convicted and be President! Which sounds insane! On a related matter. It definitely could be mind boggling and needs some clarification. Let me see if I got this right. Let's go all the way with this. If the standard is "innocent until proven guilty." That is what Trump's lawyers were arguing about the prospect of Trump becoming President and using Seal Team 6 to kill his political rival, stating that he could only be removed from office 1)if he was impeached and convicted, but we know now 2) he could also be prosecuted in court and found guilty (that is, we know now he has no immunity). Right? But we also know now, by going through the courts they haven't convicted Trump of any crime in 3 years now and he hasn't even been in office!. So even if we got a direct witness from the assassinating seal team saying a standing President ordered the assassination of his political rival. If we can't get an impeachment in the House and a 2/3rds majority in the Senate, (including some aberrant political faction, like MAGAs) to remove the President from office. He could probably stall off his conviction for the rest of his term, because nobody could speed up the due process in the courts, particularly of a standing President. Right? Just trippin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 5 hours ago, W. Niederhut said: Well, good for these students. When I was an undergrad at Brown in the 70s, I participated in the student movement protesting South African apartheid, referenced in this Guardian article. Nothing major, but I think I ended up on an FBI watch list. Brown U. figured in Watergate. Howard Hunt and Chuck Colson were members of the Washington, D.C. chapter of Brown U. Alumni. Hunt persuaded Colson to hire him at the White House. Once there Hunt starting quietly working to drive Nixon from office, taking his orders from CIA Director Helms. When it was all over, both Colson and Hunt went to prison. I can imagine how Colson wished that he had never known Hunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 (edited) 1 hour ago, Douglas Caddy said: Brown U. figured in Watergate. Howard Hunt and Chuck Colson were members of the Washington, D.C. chapter of Brown U. Alumni. Hunt persuaded Colson to hire him at the White House. Once there Hunt starting quietly working to drive Nixon from office, taking his orders from CIA Director Helms. When it was all over, both Colson and Hunt went to prison. I can imagine how Colson wished that he had never known Hunt. When I was an undergrad at Brown in the 70s, I attended a lecture by author David Halberstam at Sayles Hall. Oddly, I don't remember much about Halberstam's lecture except for his preliminary joke about delivering the annual Brown University Charles W. Colson Political Science Address. 🤥 Edited February 8 by W. Niederhut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 On 2/6/2024 at 8:01 PM, Matt Allison said: uh, yeah, this is creepy Now that's downright funny. Mahomes as Ruby, Taylor Swift as Babushka lady. Though the JFKA is not a parlor game, a little levity is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 3 hours ago, Douglas Caddy said: Brown U. figured in Watergate. Howard Hunt and Chuck Colson were members of the Washington, D.C. chapter of Brown U. Alumni. Hunt persuaded Colson to hire him at the White House. Once there Hunt starting quietly working to drive Nixon from office, taking his orders from CIA Director Helms. When it was all over, both Colson and Hunt went to prison. I can imagine how Colson wished that he had never known Hunt. So, W was an associate of Hunt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bacon Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 13 hours ago, Matt Allison said: Tomorrow the Supreme Court addresses the issue of whether or not Trump is disqualified from the ballot under the 14th Amendment. I'm not a lawyer! But while people are suggesting that this issue will decided by things like arguing whether POTUS is an officer of the government or etc., I suggest the following: Insurrection is a chargeable crime: https://codes.findlaw.com/us/title-18-crimes-and-criminal-procedure/18-usc-sect-2383.html Trump has not been charged with, much less convicted of, this crime. Now, to all of us, of course Trump appears guilty of insurrection. But we don't adjudicate things via the eye-test in this country. So I think the SC will say that Trump is indeed an officer of the government, and would indeed be ineligible to be President again if he was found guilty of insurrection. But he has not. And that is how they will extract themselves, and the country, from this burden and potential sh*tshow. I think you're right about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 11 hours ago, Ron Bulman said: So, W was an associate of Hunt? Who is W? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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