RFK Jr discusses his candidacy (and talks about Operation Northwoods)

[Kirk Gallaway]

Here's RFK Jr's recent interview with Sean Hannity, where he talks about his case, for the CIA assassinating his uncle, that we've all talked about for many years, but he is now divulging in public. This information will make him marginally gain votes at the edges, among many of us, who were already leaning in that direction. But there is a lot more to this interview.

 

I don't particularly like to talk about the Presidential run in 2024 for at least another  6 months, but what can we do? RFK Jr. has declared for the Presidency and that is big news here!  But he's definitely inexperienced and should have been more prepared in this interview with Sean Hannity. I think he was lulled into some idea that Fox would be his one friendly network and was ambushed by Hannity, (around 9:50) with a question about whether he renounces using private jets, and RFK stumbles and his first response is to act betrayed as if that is an unfair question, but it is typically seamy coming from Fox and Hannity, but really isn't an unfair question to ask of an environmentalist politician.

 

He should have done some homework and realize that Fox has been criticizing John Kerry,  another previous environmental candidate for his private jet use many times. And Hannity lowers the boom on RFK on whether he's willing to condemn all private jet use. This is clearly a typical "gotcha "game that primarily Republicans will use against Democrats to condemn someone within their own party that they clearly have no problem doing themselves and RFK Jr. having a solid environmental background should have been aware. This  topic will become another litmus test cudgel that the left will use on themselves.

 

But there's some inaccuracies in this interview as well. I'll skip the covid vaccine segment as we've  already talked about it a lot, and some of us think it is a greater burden to his campaign really getting somewhere. But there's another matter here with RFK Jr. using fuzzy figures. He said the U.S., by their funding of the Ukraine War has already killed 300,000 Ukrainians!. But U.S. estimates, which are to be expected he would use, are that 300,000 is the number of total casualties of Russians and Ukrainians. "Casualities" are all those who are killed in action or who die of wounds, as well as those who are wounded, listed as missing, or taken prisoner of war.

 

The total number of deaths, on both sides estimated by the U.S. is listed as 60,000! Obviously we can't know for sure, it could be considerably more or less but probably nowhere near 100,000. But he's off by a factor of 5 and he's not even counting projected Russian deaths! This allegations is just a whopper! RFK Jr. has to have a fact checker in his campaign who can get the story straight.

He's not Trump and if he's caught using that 300,000 or 700,000 in a debate in 6-9 months with Biden, he will be crucified!

 

Robert F. Kennedy Jr.: 'It was my father's first instinct the agency killed his brother' | Fox News Video

 

 

 

 

 

Edited May 12, 2023 by Kirk Gallaway

[Sandy Larsen]

 

This thread was corrupt for a day or two and could not be posted to. Thanks go to Kirk Gallaway for bringing it to my attention.

I just finished fixed it. Posting may presume.

 

[Sandy Larsen]

bump

Even though posting now works, the thread doesn't appear at the top of the topic list when bumped, as it should. Let's wait and see which of the following occurs:  1) The thread appears higher in the topic list when bumped; or 2) The thread just keeps dropping.

 

[Sandy Larsen]

 

.... In the meantime, please continue to post.

 

[Sandy Larsen]

test bump

Okay, everything seems to be working now.

[Benjamin Cole]

Democratic presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., told Fox News Digital he will “make the border impervious” if elected president as Title 42 is set to expire tonight.

Kennedy, who has nabbed nearly 20 percent of President Biden’s Democrat primary supporters, caught up on the phone with Fox News Digital on Thursday ahead of Title 42’s expiration.

The nephew of President John F. Kennedy pledged that, if elected president, he would “make the border impervious” to address the crisis at the southern border.

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Look for a war on RFK Jr., if he gets any traction. 

This goes exactly against Donk-Elite orthodoxy.

More and cheaper labor in America is (unbelievably) the Donk position, candy-wrapped in ID politics. 

RFK Jr. gets more interesting every day. 

Biden looks more feeble and feculent every day. 

 

 

[Sandy Larsen]

On 5/11/2023 at 11:32 AM, Kirk Gallaway said:

Here's RFK Jr's recent interview with Sean Hannity, where he talks about his case, for the CIA assassinating his uncle, that we've all talked about for many years, but he is now divulging in public. This information will make him marginally gain votes at the edges, among many of us, who were already leaning in that direction. But there is a lot more to this interview. ....

 

 

Kirk,

Most of your post has nothing to do with  the JFKA. Please move it to the Cooler or Political Discussions.

Never mind Kirk... this thread is already too far off the rails.

 

12 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said:

Democratic presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., told Fox News Digital he will “make the border impervious” if elected president as Title 42 is set to expire tonight. ....

 

Ben,

Your post has nothing to do with  the JFKA. Please move it to the Cooler or Political Discussions. Never mind Ben... this thread is already too far off the rails.

 

Edited May 12, 2023 by Sandy Larsen

[Benjamin Cole]

1 minute ago, Sandy Larsen said:

 

Kirk,

Most of your post has nothing to do with  the JFKA. Please move it to the Cooler or Political Discussions.

 

 

Ben,

Your post has nothing to do with  the JFKA. Please move it to the Cooler or Political Discussions.

 

Sandy--

The title of this thread is  "RFK Jr discusses his candidacy, and talks about Operation Northwoods"

Does not that title admit comments about various aspects of the RFK Jr. bid for the White House? 

RFK Jr. is running on an anti-globalist platform, from the JFK Records Act, to the military footprint, to Ukraine, to open borders. 

(I actually disagree with RFK Jr. on Ukraine)

 

 

[Sandy Larsen]

6 minutes ago, Benjamin Cole said:

Sandy--

The title of this thread is  "RFK Jr discusses his candidacy, and talks about Operation Northwoods"

Does not that title admit comments about various aspects of the RFK Jr. bid for the White House? 

RFK Jr. is running on an anti-globalist platform, from the JFK Records Act, to the military footprint, to Ukraine, to open borders. 

(I actually disagree with RFK Jr. on Ukraine)

 

 

First, the only reason we allow RFK Jr. threads is because they have links to his comments on JFK's assassins and Operation Northwoods.

We have a policy of not allowing political discussions on the main JFKA debate forum because, as we discovered, the mixture of MAGA and non-MAGA comments lead to intense arguing.

If you really have the desire to post political comments in a place that gets traffic, perhaps you should try posting in the  Mainstream Cooler. But if you do, be very careful not to use MAGA "news and facts" (which is what I call fake news and facts). If you do, any of the other participants can kindly request that you remove it.

 

[Benjamin Cole]

14 minutes ago, Sandy Larsen said:

 

First, the only reason we allow RFK Jr. threads is because they have links to his comments on JFK's assassins and Operation Northwoods.

We have a policy of not allowing political discussions on the main JFKA debate forum because, as we discovered, the mixture of MAGA and non-MAGA comments lead to intense arguing.

If you really have the desire to post political comments in a place that gets traffic, perhaps you should try posting in the  Mainstream Cooler. But if you do, be very careful not to use MAGA "news and facts" (which is what I call fake news and facts). If you do, any of the other participants can kindly request that you remove it.

 

By your command (an expression from the late 1970s TV series Battleship Galactica, and about the only thing worth remembering from that show). 

I do wonder which "facts" are more distorted: MAGA or mainstream. But each to his own. 

[W. Niederhut]

3 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said:

I do wonder which "facts" are more distorted: MAGA or mainstream. But each to his own. 

And therein lies the problem.

People living in the Fox MAGA-verse have difficulty differentiating fact from fiction.

This phenomenon has actually been confirmed by an array of academic studies, including the 2022 UC Berkeley study of Fox News watchers.

STUDY: Watching Fox News Makes You Less Informed Than Watching No News at All (businessinsider.com)

When Fox News viewers flip to CNN, their opinions shift too, study finds | Berkeley News

Consuming content from Fox News is associated with decreased knowledge of science and society (psypost.org)

A Rigorous Scientific Look Into The 'Fox News Effect' (forbes.com)

[Benjamin Cole]

32 minutes ago, W. Niederhut said:

And therein lies the problem.

People living in the Fox MAGA-verse have difficulty differentiating fact from fiction.

This phenomenon has actually been confirmed by an array of academic studies, including the 2022 UC Berkeley study of Fox News watchers.

STUDY: Watching Fox News Makes You Less Informed Than Watching No News at All (businessinsider.com)

When Fox News viewers flip to CNN, their opinions shift too, study finds | Berkeley News

Consuming content from Fox News is associated with decreased knowledge of science and society (psypost.org)

A Rigorous Scientific Look Into The 'Fox News Effect' (forbes.com)

1. Explain to me how COVID-19 emerged suddenly. And how mainstream media has played the topic. 

2. If MAGA people migrate into the 9/11 Truther camp...what does that mean? 

3. "Seven Resources Debunking 9/11 Conspiracy Theories"--Council of Foreign Relations

https://www.cfr.org/blog/seven-resources-debunking-911-conspiracy-theories

You can't get more mainstream than the CFR. They say 9/11 Truthers cannot discern fact from fiction. 

.....

So...how does a typical MAGA person compare to 9/11 Truthers compare to mainstream media? 

This is the EF-JFKA forum. I should believe "facts" as presented by M$M? 

Plato's cave....

 

 

Edited May 12, 2023 by Benjamin Cole

[W. Niederhut]

32 minutes ago, Benjamin Cole said:

1. Explain to me how COVID-19 emerged suddenly. And how mainstream media has played the topic. 

2. If MAGA people migrate into the 9/11 Truther camp...what does that mean? 

3. "Seven Resources Debunking 9/11 Conspiracy Theories"--Council of Foreign Relations

https://www.cfr.org/blog/seven-resources-debunking-911-conspiracy-theories

You can't get more mainstream than the CFR. They say 9/11 Truthers cannot discern fact from fiction. 

.....

So...how does a typical MAGA person compare to 9/11 Truthers compare to mainstream media? 

This is the EF-JFKA forum. I should believe "facts" as presented by M$M? 

Plato's cave....

 

 

Ben,

     How many times have I pointed out in our redundant debates that the "Mockingbird" M$M has been chiefly focused on covering up military and intelligence black ops-- JFKA, 9/11, Iraq WMDS, etc.?

      That is different from the more general Fox/Breitbart/Newsmax focus on misrepresenting non-military current events-- e.g., telling their fans that Trump's J6 coup attempt was a Deep State "patriot purge," etc.

[Sandy Larsen]

5 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said:

By your command....

 

Never mind Ben.... this thread is already too far off the rails.

 

[Sandy Larsen]

 

I have moved the last part of this thread to Political Discussions. I left the (non-political) first part in place, but have temporarily locked it.

Please resume posting.