Ron Bulman Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 11 minutes ago, Bob Ness said: Get off the cross Mark. We need the firewood. (Note: comma intentionally left out to evoke more outrage). For Jim's sake I'll stop after this, I have legit comments. But comma what comma? Amazing, spell check didn't suggest a correction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Cole Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 The "Mob did it" angle is likely a diversion. That the CIA had the Mob instruct Ruby is possible. The two organizations were tight in the 1960s. But the whole LHO backstory, trip to Russia, impersonation in Mexico City, the post-JFKA cover-up...way beyond the Mob. Unfortunately, HSCA Counsel Robert Blakey was a mob-hunter before he took the HSCA post. Richard Sprague, highly regarded, somehow gets torpedoed. Blakey was naive, and he will tell you so today, for believing anything the CIA said. Did the CIA effectively plant Blakey at the HSCA? We know the CIA derailed the HSCA investigation into the CIA. Even so, Blakey concluded there had been a conspiracy to assassinate JFKA. That is the last official word on the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ness Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, Ron Bulman said: For Jim's sake I'll stop after this, I have legit comments. But comma what comma? Amazing, spell check didn't suggest a correction. They're busy derailing the thread critiquing some grammatical errors in Jim's article. Hall monitors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ness Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 17 minutes ago, Mark Ulrik said: That's mean Bob. Hahaha. I take it you cooled down now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Von Pein Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, James DiEugenio said: "Nicoletti was in a car with patrolman J. D. Tippit and was screaming at Oswald to get in, but he did not." Geez. Why aren't Mark, DVP and Brown up in arms about this baloney? I certainly agree with you on this one, Jim. It most definitely is baloney. That's almost as bad as this theory (discussed at another forum), in which an outer-fringe conspiracy nutjob informed me that J.D. Tippit was really killed in Dealey Plaza, instead of on 10th Street, and that the "staged shooting" on Tenth Street came complete with "conspiracy-supplied witnesses". As the years pass, the number of conspiracy-happy clowns with really oddball theories seems to grow and grow. Edited June 2, 2023 by David Von Pein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ulrik Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, Bob Ness said: They're busy derailing the thread critiquing some grammatical errors in Jim's article. Hall monitors. Well, Jim seems to think we're movie critics. Personally, I'd prefer to suspend judgment until after I've watched it. It might still turn out to be a perfectly watchable counter-myth (to a counter-myth). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted June 2, 2023 Author Share Posted June 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Bob Ness said: 13 minutes ago, Mark Ulrik said: Well, Jim seems to think we're movie critics. Personally, I'd prefer to suspend judgment until after I've watched it. It might still turn out to be a perfectly watchable counter-myth (to a counter-myth). Anyone who can read both parts of that article and not see that its about a previous documentary, and that it examines theories put forth by people like Exner and in Double Cross is putting us all on. And if you did not learn anything about Giancana and RFK then you are being deliberately obtuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted June 2, 2023 Author Share Posted June 2, 2023 BTW, here is something that I was not aware of. I had no idea the surveillance on Giancana was this total. When Sam arrived at the airport they trailed him off the plane and drove home behind him. At night there were three cars around his house. He was followed while taking walks in the park. When Sam went to dinner they took the next table. If Sam got up from the table to go to the men’s room, Roemer went to the men’s room and was in the next urinal. When Sam went golfing, they were behind him in the next foursome. I could go on, but this does not even include the electronic surveillance they had blanketed Giancana with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted June 2, 2023 Author Share Posted June 2, 2023 That electronic surveillance included four meeting places of Giancana. RFK sent 65 more agents to Chicago. IIRC, the FBi had even more places bugged that they did not wish to reveal. Man, Sam could not move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 (edited) Thanks Jim, the articles are very informative to me at least. I've never delved into Giancana. Skipped Double Cross and more, because of your reviews and other comments. Didn't know about The Don which sounds legit, worth reading. Romer tailing him gets funny. Getting the next table when he went out to eat. Following him to the bathroom, the next urinal. He couldn't take a piss without the FBI in his pocket. Edited June 2, 2023 by Ron Bulman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted June 2, 2023 Author Share Posted June 2, 2023 (edited) Yes, Brashler's book is I think the best biography of Giancana. Isn't that funny Ron. Sam goes to take a leak, they take a leak with him. He goes golfing, they are in the group behind him. BTW, Roemer said that they would deliberately hit balls into Giancana's foursome. Edited June 2, 2023 by James DiEugenio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Cummings Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 @James DiEugenioHow did this play up to mob partner JEH? He just give heads up to Giancana's people directly or indirectly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, James DiEugenio said: Yes, Brashler's book is I think the best biography of Giancana. Isn't that funny Ron. Sam goes to take a leak, they take a leak with him. He goes golfing, they are in the group behind him. BTW, Roemer said that they would deliberately hit balls into Giancana's foursome. That's inexcusable. Organized crime is one thing, but hitting golf balls into the foursome in front of you is downright uncivilized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 36 minutes ago, W. Niederhut said: That's inexcusable. Organized crime is one thing, but hitting golf balls into the foursome in front of you is downright uncivilized. Not to detract from the serious aspects of the thread. But I guess you've seen this before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted June 2, 2023 Author Share Posted June 2, 2023 I agree William , gentlemen don't do things like that. 😇 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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