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John,

Wim had nothing to do whatsoever with a certain person/group was doing/trying at that time,

and I think we are talking about the same entity, as I know the person who, for a different reason,

found out first about it/them, pretty good ;) .

This person :rolleyes: suspects that John and Jack's information is based upon the information gathered at that time.

I've had many differences with Wim over the time and still have quite a

number of them, but in all fairness I have to state that from my information,

without a doubt Wim has neither ordered nor had knowledge about, any wrongdoing

towards this forum/website or any other.

Just look at the hacks his forum had to overcome, and you know, that he has no super

hackers employed, he may know some, but hey, who doesn't :ph34r: .

I would like to take the opportunity to ask Mark some questions and also I would like to suggest one thing to Mark.

Question 1: Is it true that you have a XP-100 ? Wim told me that last week (he said he thinks you have one).

Question 2: If true can you please do and while you do film (have filmed) the following things and post the result on the internet.

a) Fire either a Fireball .221 or Remington .222 shell from that pistol,if your pistol can fire any of the two.

B) Eject the casing and immediatly make a temperature measurment of the spend casing.

c) Repeat measurment after 5,10 and 15 seconds.

If you're a true Files believer leave out points b and c and pick the casing with your finger and then bite on it within 10 seconds (to be fair I'll give 15 seconds), 2 times the way Files said he did (see dented Rademacher casing)

3) Look at the dented casing you have bitten on, and tell me of there are 2 or 4 dents on the casing (you know where to look for the additional 2 don't you ? ).

Hint, the Rademacher casing has only 2 bite marks as far as I know, both on the same side of the casing.

I would also invite other members to do at least the bite test on a spent casing, then post the result

should they have the resources in ammo.

I do ask this questions, because I have no idea of arms (we germans are not so much into firearms nowadays), and I see these questions as so important to the Files case, that I wondered nearly from

day one of reading about James Files, why neither Bob nor Wim have filmed a test like outlined above,

in order to make that point as clear as possible.

I do doubt one can get away without heavy burns to fingers and mouth/lips/tongue.

I do doubt that there will be only 2 dents/marks and those not being on opposite sides of the casing if it is bitten 2 times.

Finaly a suggestion Mark, take it or leave it.

Please do show some respect to Mr. White, by addressing him with Mr. White instead of White.

I though we Europeans in general do respect the elder person, as long as that person isn't a crook.

And Jack White is no crook,PERIOD.

You two differ in opinion that is all, neither one of you have the full picture.

If his information about the activity towards this forum/website is based on what I think it is,John and Jack

are wrong, but I can not prove it other than by giving my word.

Maybe FATS can ?

Wim doesn't need a spokesperson Mark, he has the mail addresses of all involved, and if it bothers him,

he will contact the relevant persons, you know that as good as anyone who knows Wim.

The way I know John, I don't think he would even have a problem with posting statements from Wim regarding that matter, if it is within the bounds of "normal" forum tone.

Thanks

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John,

Finaly a suggestion Mark, take it or leave it.

Please do show some respect to Mr. White, by addressing him with Mr. White instead of White.

I though we Europeans in general do respect the elder person, as long as that person isn't a crook.

And Jack White is no crook,PERIOD.

You two differ in opinion that is all, neither one of you have the full picture.

Thanks

Mr. Weaver

I adimre Mr. White for his work. But I can´t keep my mouth shut when he accuse Wim for being dishonest and accuse him for disrupt forums.

Mark

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Mark,

defending a friend from unfounded accusations is a honorable

thing to do, don't get me wrong, I respect anyone for doing that.

The other side of the coin is, no one is innocend per se, just because

he's ones friend.

I just wanted to make clear, that I can see in this case, why Mr. White and Mr. Simkin have drawn a wrong conclusion,and therefore do suspect/accuse Wim of something he had nothing to do with , and that with all differences, one should always try to show that

little respect that makes the difference when talking to each others on forums.

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John,

Wim had nothing to do whatsoever with a certain person/group was doing/trying at that time,

and I think we are talking about the same entity, as I know the person who, for a different reason,

found out first about it/them, pretty good :pop .

This person :plane suspects that John and Jack's information is based upon the information gathered at that time.

I have never accused Wim of trying to hack into our Forum. We know who tried to bring down our Forum. They have been identified and the relevant authorities have been told. My complaint against Wim has nothing to do with bringing down Forums. That is Jack's point and it has nothing to do with this Forum.

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Thanks John,

i understood it wrong in your regard obviously.

I thought that apart from them little green footballs or whatever

they called themselves, that the forum was attacked from

within the Netherlands after that had occured.

If Jack's source is a certain former partner of Wim, I do know for

certain, that Wim had nothing to do with it.

Those so called "Hacker punks" were a joke, nothing dangerous behind

them.

Some persons simply do have a sleeping disorder and spend too much

time on the internet, then finaly they think they are go(o)d hackers

by threatening other internet users.

Those persons will probably never understand hacker ethics.

But then, what do I know.

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John,

Finaly a suggestion Mark, take it or leave it.

Please do show some respect to Mr. White, by addressing him with Mr. White instead of White.

I though we Europeans in general do respect the elder person, as long as that person isn't a crook.

And Jack White is no crook,PERIOD.

You two differ in opinion that is all, neither one of you have the full picture.

Thanks

Mr. Weaver

I adimre Mr. White for his work. But I can´t keep my mouth shut when he accuse Wim for being dishonest and accuse him for disrupt forums.

Mark

This is what Mark means by "I adimre Mr. White for his work."...He has a post on Wim's Forum entitled

"Jack White-The Great photo expert"

In this post, it is clear how much he respects Mr. White with the following snip....

"...Mr White is a stubborn man and won't change his mind..."

Historically I don't agree with Jack's symmetry lines either but then the following occurs...

Mark comes to this forum demanding answers as to why Wim is not allowed back on the forum. He described this post previously as "repugnant". He professes that I am out to "smear" Wim.

It is clear he does not understand the difference between questioning theoretical tennants versus ad hominem attack. He is also demonstrating what I indicated concern about regarding the files theory - a cult-like allegiance which is sure to produce more attacks on the messenger than productive analysis. Jason Vermeer.

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John,

Finaly a suggestion Mark, take it or leave it.

Please do show some respect to Mr. White, by addressing him with Mr. White instead of White.

I though we Europeans in general do respect the elder person, as long as that person isn't a crook.

And Jack White is no crook,PERIOD.

You two differ in opinion that is all, neither one of you have the full picture.

Thanks

Mr. Weaver

I adimre Mr. White for his work. But I can´t keep my mouth shut when he accuse Wim for being dishonest and accuse him for disrupt forums.

Mark

This is what Mark means by "I adimre Mr. White for his work."...He has a post on Wim's Forum entitled

"Jack White-The Great photo expert"

In this post, it is clear how much he respects Mr. White with the following snip....

"...Mr White is a stubborn man and won't change his mind..."

Historically I don't agree with Jack's symmetry lines either but then the following occurs...

Mark comes to this forum demanding answers as to why Wim is not allowed back on the forum. He described this post previously as "repugnant". He professes that I am out to "smear" Wim.

It is clear he does not understand the difference between questioning theoretical tennants versus ad hominem attack. He is also demonstrating what I indicated concern about regarding the files theory - a cult-like allegiance which is sure to produce more attacks on the messenger than productive analysis. Jason Vermeer.

Jason

I admire Jack for his work on the badgeman photo. But I don´t admire him for falsely accuse Wim for disrupt forums. We also don´t agree about the old tramp but every person is entitled to have a opinion.

Mark

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Jason Vermeer,

For some reason you seem hell bound on destroying the credibility of the Files story, to the extent of attempting to smear the messengers now. Actually, I believe you are doing Wim a big favor, for you draw more attention to the subject and drive traffic to Wim's website, which by the way is one of the best documented according to many sources, where the visitors will find what a sore loser your are.

Wim let me know he is too busy now to deal with characters like you outside his own forum, and probably your post should not even be dignified with a response. However , I find it so repugnant I would like to put something opposite of it.

...

Can you be a member here and NOT believe the Files story?

'Scuse me for jumping in like this, but I think that is very possible, yes.

That discussion shows further that Wim's website and forum is not only about James Files, but also Chauncey Holt, Tosh Plumlee, Judyth Baker and other subjects. It is people like you who want to concentrate on Files.

...

Can't you deal with Wim's answers directly anymore? Or is it just that you can't stand the fact that a growing number of people, including credited researchers and authors, are starting to look through the curtain of discreditation?

...

All of those subjects mentioned, in general: BS. Right up there with the Roscoe White fiasco, which "[ac]credited researchers and authors" also bought into and put their stamp of approval upon. That doesn't make it so.

It is quite telling to me that you attempt to condemn Wim for selling a book on this important information, like any author would, without even having read the book itself yet, something you said you would do. The fact that you did not do this, makes your ignorance the more embarassing, for if you would have aqcuired the DVD for example, you would have known that it was Jim Marrs and Wim conducted that interview. Thus you could have avoided a dumb question like: Jim Marrs?

...

Mark

I think you missed his point entirely about Jim Marrs, who is a reporter, not a researcher. Forgive my saying so, but while I find Jim to be very likeable, I tend to think he's also fairly gullible. IMHO. (I, on the other side of the coin, am rumored to be a "CIA asset," among other equally colorful epithets!)

What SHOULD one think when someone BUYS THE RIGHTS TO A STORY? Wim's got an initial investment of about $325,000 tied up in the Files story alone, that as a direct payment to the former "rights-holder." If there is any validity to it, one wouldn't "buy rights" to such a story and "promote" it, they'd turn it over to the Texas Attorney General for prosecution.

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A friend of mine is researching an article on James Files. Is anyone interested in posting a summary of why they believe/don’t believe James Files?

Mr. Simkin,

Great idea, that would be very interesting.

I think it would also be a good idea for Chauncey Holt, Judyth Baker and Tosh Plumlee.

Could you share with us who your friend is?

Mark

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John R. Stockwell published his critique of the James Files Story on 23rd January, 1997.

To date, no corroboration has been found in military records, by the FBI, by Bob Vernon, or anyone else to our knowledge (despite considerable efforts) of Files military service or his service in the 82nd Airborne...

Normal training for a recruit, before overseas deployment is about a year. Training to qualify as an advisor in small automatic weapons, setting detonators, explosives, mechanical ambushes, would take years. Advisors in a handful of Americans working with Laotians would obviously include seasoned men - not a small, skinny, green, 17-year-old recruit...

In 1955 Sam Giancana took over the Mafia family from Tony Accardo. In 1959 he was one of the most powerful crime figures in America - hardly one of the underlings.... one of the top lieutenants....

David Atlee Phillips was a propaganda specialist. Not a paramilitary man. It is very doubtful that he would be the controller of a Mafia shooter who was training Cubans...

He (Nicoletti) asked me then were do you think would be the best place for me? "I said, well, I think the Dal-Tex building...." Big problem here. Mafia hits are meticulously well-planned, usually involving several people. This is 2 hours before the assassination of the President and we are to believe they are walking around saying, where do you think I should stand?

Could a stranger just walk into the Dal-Tex building with a 30.06, just before the president is to drive by, and walk up to a window and shoot. (It seems there may (or may not) have been a closet with a window on the 2nd floor, by the fire escape. But, wouldnt that take some careful planning to find, identify, get a key to?

And what of the sound? Rifles are loud. Would no one in the building hear the shots? He would have been firing right down Elm. Many dozens of people, including credible individuals standing almost in the line of fire. Would none of them have heard the loud shots, muzzle blast, bullets, right behind and above them?

Here Files is detailing which shots hit and which shot missed. Watching through a scope, preparing to fire, how could he know there were hits and one miss? Kennedy did not lurch until after the head shot...

Note that legions of researchers, carefully viewing the Zapruder film have debated for years about hits and misses. This reads much more like something Files read in a book, than an eyewitness account.

Three times here, Files is zeroing in on Kennedy's left eye, side of the head, temple. Later in this transcript he does explain that he meant his own left, as he faced Kennedy. But, given the other extensive distortions in his confession the latter could easily be an artless correction of this inaccuracy. "So, as I fired that round, Mr. Nicoletti and I fired approximately at the same time as the head started forward then it went backward. I would have to say that his shell struck approximately 1000th of a second ahead of mine but that whats started pushing the head forward which caused me to miss from the left eye and I came in on the left side of the temple. At that point, through the scope I witnessed everyting, matter and skull bring (sic) blown out the back on the limo...."

This is all from the books and films, not what a shooter would have seen and registered in 1/1000th of a second. Nor could he have watched matter and skull bring blown out the back on the limo. The Fireball is a pistol, firing essentially the same cartridge as the M16 rifle. It kicks like a mule. Harder than any rifle. The recoil knocks it back and up. No way he could have fired and then watched through the scope.... (readers of this are invited to go to a range and shoot one).

" Nobody has paid me any money for this interview and I have asked for nothing." In fact, I understand that Files's daughter was paid $50,000 immediately after the project was sold to Dick Clark/MPI.

(Files) claims Nicoletti gave him his diary of all his hits and the Secret Service badges that had been used in Dealey Plaza. Any seasoned researcher is going to put big question marks beside the assertion that Nicoletti kept or gave to Files his diary of all his hits. It would seem extremely unlikely that a Mafia hitman would keep such a record, and questionable that he would leave it with anyone else.

Files initially said he and Oswald were "palling" around New Orleans with shipments of fake Thompson's submachine guns in 1961. Oswald was still in Minsk, that was a full year before he returned to the United States.

A colorful part of his story is how he fired one shot with his Fireball, took the cartridge out, bit down on it, and then left it on the fence railing. There are several unresolved problems with this. First, John Rademacher found 2 Fireball cartridges, not just one. Second, Files did apparently own a Fireball.... but the serial numbers clearly indicated that it's manufacture substantially post-dated the assassination. And finally, Joe West was conferring closely with Rademacher a year before he discovered and met Files. He and I had talked about the practicality of using a Fireball for a shot from the fence (first postulated by Josiah Thompson). Joe had photographs of the dented cartridge when he went to visit Files in prison.

According to Files's chronology, he would have been in Laos with the 82nd Airborne when he was still 17 years old. No authentication of his military record has ever been found. Nor does one enlist, go directly into an elite outfit, and then immediately get assigned overseas to a sensitive assignment. The boot and basic infantry training of a recruit takes about a year (I was going through the military training process in those same years.) Jump school alone is one month, and you had to qualify to make it.

Much of Files's story parallels information that is in the assassination books. Was he a reader? We do not know.

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Here is another good look at the James Files story:

Martin Shackelford, Fair Play Magazine, Confessions of an Assassin (November, 1996)

Files said he first met Lee Harvey Oswald in early 1963, in connection with gun-running, in Clinton, Louisiana, via David Atlee Phillips. Both were doing CIA work at the time. There was obviously some government involvement in the assassination, as otherwise they wouldn't have gotten the Secret Service identifications Ruby gave them. Phillips had given him the Remington Fireball for an earlier job.

Files said he saw Frank Sturgis among the crowd of people on Elm Street. He also saw Eugene Brading, whom he had seen at the Cabana with Nicoletti and Rosselli. Files knew Sturgis from anti-Castro activities, as did Rosselli. Files didn't see Oswald at all that day. He and Oswald never discussed the assassination plan.

He would not comment on the murder of J.D. Tippit, except to say that Oswald didn't kill Tippit, and the man who did was still alive at the time of the interview (a later reference possibly referring to the same man indicated he is now in his '80s), and had originally been assigned to kill Oswald. The man came to see Files in Mesquite after the assassination, saying there was a screwup and he had killed a cop...

Problems with the James Files "Confession":

(1) David Atlee Phillips, CIA propaganda expert, would seem an unlikely case officer for a Mob driver and hit man on No Name Key. This seems to be an attempt to tie Files credibly in with Oswald (the Veciana sighting in Dallas of Oswald and Phillips, as Bishop, together), but is doubtful. Also, although John Rosselli was active in Florida preparations for the Bay of Pigs, it is likely that someone other than Phillips introduced him to Files, if Files was at No Name Key. The only thing that sounds much like the real Phillips is the quote near the end about the power of the typewriter.

(2) Lee Harvey Oswald as tour guide.

(3) The plaid reversible coat and the bitten shell casing seem, on the surface, to provide confirmation, but both were details known prior to Files telling his story to anyone. I had heard about the shell well before Files says the fact that it was bitten was discovered (he says 1994). Some people seem to have confused the bitten casing found in the Plaza with the dented casing found in the Depository - these are two separate shell casings.

(4) In connection with Oswald, Clinton and gun-running, David Atlee Phillips again seems inserted artificially into the story here. Oswald and Ruby were both connected to New Orleans people involved in gun-running, but inserting Phillips into the Clinton story is, again, highly doubtful. This is not to say Phillips' role was an innocent one, just that Files seems to be inventing things, or perhaps he was fed inventions.

(5) Files overlooks the fact that the Elm Street crowd was well-photographed. Frank Sturgis was not among the crowd; nor at that point was Eugene Brading in that area; nor was Jack Ruby on the sidewalk below the knoll. None of this is difficult to check. All the relevant photos are in Groden and Trask.

(6) The Secret Service man on the knoll now becomes two men in suits turning people away. There were men turning people away in the area BEFORE the assassination, but not after. It sounds as though Files flubbed some of his borrowed details.

(7) He had documentary evidence, but he destroyed most of it. How convenient.

(8) My guess is that Files was, indeed, Charles Nicoletti's driver, and was involved in the preparations for the Bay of Pigs, but that he is also a good con artist, skillled at blending fact and fiction, which is what I believe he has done here.

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(8) My guess is that Files was ..... a good con artist, skillled at blending fact and fiction, which is what I believe he has done here.[/color]

That about sums up this particular con-job.

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John R. Stockwell published his critique of the James Files Story on 23rd January, 1997.

To date, no corroboration has been found in military records, by the FBI, by Bob Vernon, or anyone else to our knowledge (despite considerable efforts) of Files military service or his service in the 82nd Airborne...

Normal training for a recruit, before overseas deployment is about a year. Training to qualify as an advisor in small automatic weapons, setting detonators, explosives, mechanical ambushes, would take years. Advisors in a handful of Americans working with Laotians would obviously include seasoned men - not a small, skinny, green, 17-year-old recruit...

In 1955 Sam Giancana took over the Mafia family from Tony Accardo. In 1959 he was one of the most powerful crime figures in America - hardly one of the underlings.... one of the top lieutenants....

David Atlee Phillips was a propaganda specialist. Not a paramilitary man. It is very doubtful that he would be the controller of a Mafia shooter who was training Cubans...

He (Nicoletti) asked me then were do you think would be the best place for me? "I said, well, I think the Dal-Tex building...." Big problem here. Mafia hits are meticulously well-planned, usually involving several people. This is 2 hours before the assassination of the President and we are to believe they are walking around saying, where do you think I should stand?

Could a stranger just walk into the Dal-Tex building with a 30.06, just before the president is to drive by, and walk up to a window and shoot. (It seems there may (or may not) have been a closet with a window on the 2nd floor, by the fire escape. But, wouldnt that take some careful planning to find, identify, get a key to?

And what of the sound? Rifles are loud. Would no one in the building hear the shots? He would have been firing right down Elm. Many dozens of people, including credible individuals standing almost in the line of fire. Would none of them have heard the loud shots, muzzle blast, bullets, right behind and above them?

Here Files is detailing which shots hit and which shot missed. Watching through a scope, preparing to fire, how could he know there were hits and one miss? Kennedy did not lurch until after the head shot...

Note that legions of researchers, carefully viewing the Zapruder film have debated for years about hits and misses. This reads much more like something Files read in a book, than an eyewitness account.

Three times here, Files is zeroing in on Kennedy's left eye, side of the head, temple. Later in this transcript he does explain that he meant his own left, as he faced Kennedy. But, given the other extensive distortions in his confession the latter could easily be an artless correction of this inaccuracy. "So, as I fired that round, Mr. Nicoletti and I fired approximately at the same time as the head started forward then it went backward. I would have to say that his shell struck approximately 1000th of a second ahead of mine but that whats started pushing the head forward which caused me to miss from the left eye and I came in on the left side of the temple. At that point, through the scope I witnessed everyting, matter and skull bring (sic) blown out the back on the limo...."

This is all from the books and films, not what a shooter would have seen and registered in 1/1000th of a second. Nor could he have watched matter and skull bring blown out the back on the limo. The Fireball is a pistol, firing essentially the same cartridge as the M16 rifle. It kicks like a mule. Harder than any rifle. The recoil knocks it back and up. No way he could have fired and then watched through the scope.... (readers of this are invited to go to a range and shoot one).

" Nobody has paid me any money for this interview and I have asked for nothing." In fact, I understand that Files's daughter was paid $50,000 immediately after the project was sold to Dick Clark/MPI.

(Files) claims Nicoletti gave him his diary of all his hits and the Secret Service badges that had been used in Dealey Plaza. Any seasoned researcher is going to put big question marks beside the assertion that Nicoletti kept or gave to Files his diary of all his hits. It would seem extremely unlikely that a Mafia hitman would keep such a record, and questionable that he would leave it with anyone else.

Files initially said he and Oswald were "palling" around New Orleans with shipments of fake Thompson's submachine guns in 1961. Oswald was still in Minsk, that was a full year before he returned to the United States.

A colorful part of his story is how he fired one shot with his Fireball, took the cartridge out, bit down on it, and then left it on the fence railing. There are several unresolved problems with this. First, John Rademacher found 2 Fireball cartridges, not just one. Second, Files did apparently own a Fireball.... but the serial numbers clearly indicated that it's manufacture substantially post-dated the assassination. And finally, Joe West was conferring closely with Rademacher a year before he discovered and met Files. He and I had talked about the practicality of using a Fireball for a shot from the fence (first postulated by Josiah Thompson). Joe had photographs of the dented cartridge when he went to visit Files in prison.

According to Files's chronology, he would have been in Laos with the 82nd Airborne when he was still 17 years old. No authentication of his military record has ever been found. Nor does one enlist, go directly into an elite outfit, and then immediately get assigned overseas to a sensitive assignment. The boot and basic infantry training of a recruit takes about a year (I was going through the military training process in those same years.) Jump school alone is one month, and you had to qualify to make it.

Much of Files's story parallels information that is in the assassination books. Was he a reader? We do not know.

Dear John Simkin,

Is the opinion of John Stockwell the reason why you disbelieve James Files?

John Stockwell is a known former CIA agent. Need any more proof he is a ‘CIA asset’? Try and find him to elaborate on his views! His opinions have not always been the same. In fact I, I have many recorded opinions of him, either in writing or on video, that are actually very supportive of conspiracy and James Files. He made a sudden and unexplained 180 degrees reversal. Who knows who got to him?

His reversed opinions are provable lies. The fact that he claims the XP-100 "kicks like mule", is just one example. Ask any XP-100 owner. You have been researching the assassination yourself for a long time. Can you really not detect the rest of his lies? Would you really like me to address them one by one?

Stockwell gives himself away with trying to discredit the deceased Joe West. All you need to know is this: Joe West is the only American in history who tried to do the one sensible thing to solve this case: Exhume the remains of JFK. What do you think the exhumation would prove? It would not only prove multiple shooters, but also the veracity of James Files. Not only the evidence of his frontal right temple shot, but also traces of his mercury bullet. That's why Joe died and his lawsuit with him. Also, Joe West and his death are the only reason that Files decided to talk! That's why my film will start with the following text:

This film is dedicated to the late Joe West. I never knew Joe West but in my firm opinion he did more to solve the murder of John F. Kennedy than anyone else. I also believe he paid with the highest price.

Johansson

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Uh..lies?

The post John Simkin made, regardless of the source, sites numerous instances where the Files story breaks down HISTORICALLY and not as a matter of opinion.

There is not one SHRED of information in his fabrication that corroborates his story. with the known facts available before his great admission surfaced, it is easy to deduce he is a xxxx.

Using the logic behind his story, I could have been the Grassy knoll gunman.

This James Files nonsense seems to serve a number of purposes unrelated to the case:

- Sell Xp Fireballs. An almost useless weapon except perhaps to a psychotic gun nut or equally disturbed collector. Generally laughed at when mentioned to people who use firearms recreationally.

- To sell more poorly written, researched and plagurised "what if" scenarios to people who wouldn't know any better.

- To make people like myself laugh out loud.

- So people who like UFO's and Elvis movies can wade into the case without having to read Posners nonsense.

Files whole story just lacks....Period..

A mechanic of any kind would have the sense to shut it or be knocked off well before "singing" about it let alone trying to sell books, videos etc..

Please go plug this stuff somewhere else.

It's nonsense.

His reputation as well as his story preclude him.

Cheers

Dobson

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