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On 9/28/2017 at 12:02 PM, Jim Hargrove said:
Indeed! Even the official cover story of the radar operator observing American U-2 planes defecting to Russia, saying he would give away all his secrets, and returning home without penalty smells like a spy story.
Except Lee Oswald's "Preference" and "Recommended" Duty assignment was as an Aircraft Maintenance and Repairman... not an air traffic controller which was a completely different class and course of education... Also in the "Duties performed" box... none of that indicates the aptitude or intelligence needed to be a radar operator...
Also, one of the key qualification of a 6741: Avn Electronics Operator is perfect hearing.... Lee, having the mastoid operation and poor hearing in the left ear would never be considered for that job... this brings to bear the Alan Felde timeline and its conflict with the Marines timeline given to the WC....
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1 hour ago, W. Tracy Parnell said:
John Ely didn't think there were 2 Oswalds. He just wanted the WC to conduct as thorough an investigation into LHO's life as was possible.
John Ely found there were two distinct sets of people who knew one or the other Oswald... that there were records indicating one of them being in one place while the other was somewhere else, concurrently.
That he encountered a long list of Marines who were supposedly stationed with "LEE" who were not mentioned by a single person within "Harvey's" bio... that these men in fact were involved with a much larger, non-political, fighter/drinker who bore little resemblance in detail to Harvey.
I'll continue to chalk this up to your inability to add 2 and 2 without arriving at some bizarre, unrelated conclusion about the origins of the numbers instead of dealing with the core inability to add....
Here you go Tracy... once again please show us how 200 days of school fits into the 123 available from the 210 possible without including the entire summer and the entire Youth House stay.... this should be simple for someone with your abilities...
or you can whine about it some more, change the subject and still look as confused and lost as ever
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20 minutes ago, Michael Walton said:
David you might want to read on to later posts on here. I clearly post other items that show after your MC post and SS there's simply no way for the HL story to possibly work.
Michael... Sidestepping the question is very telling.
You might want to read the book and follow the evidence before you come to conclusions and present them as if you're someone who gave serious time and effort to the project....
Reading the posts of those who can't be bothered by doing the work necessary has become a complete waste of time...
Making your mind up with a cursory reading at best and a lack of exposure to 90% of the work... obviously gives you the credibility necessary to sway understanding of the H&L history.That you continue to laugh off the reality of history just goes to show the complete lack of depth to your understanding of the world around you.
The only humorous thing that remains is the trio of acolytes here trying so hard to explain away the obvious with every possible excuse imaginable. Maybe instead of taking up so much time and brain power with denials... you could take a few weeks/months and read the work, follow the footnotes and then come back here and talk to us from a position of knowledge instead of conjecture...
The manner in which you deny this harkens back to how the WCR, Blakey and the HSCA and then the ARRB whitewashed the entire event thru "official" investigation. It's shameful the way you can look at simple evidence and then dance the denier dance cause it doesn't fit your version of the story...
The worst remains the vitriolic manner in which you and the other go about trying to discredit the work of another, while your own body of published work remains woefully inadequate. The only thing H&L does directly is render Parker's conclusions about Oswald inaccurate... he and you and the others have no choice but to continue to the fight...
Other than it flying in the face of Parker's work... what is your specific problem with the evidence and the work of John Ely discovering the amazing duality of existence when compiling his bio?
What skin do you have in this discussion Michael.... or you just being contrary for the fun of it?
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On 9/23/2017 at 10:21 AM, W. Tracy Parnell said:
Brilliant Jeremy!
No doubt Tracy... you're there whenever a H&L evidence-less supporter vomits up verbal diarrhea from a most fertile mind with a scenario born from ignorance of the topic...
Let me see... doesn't the evidence which proves H&L basically render your work and Parker's books and research, moot and meaningless?
H&L cannot exist in the Parker world - not because of the evidence but of the implications it has on his own work... that and exposing the inability of the detractors to add correctly. Can't have that now can we?You and the other minions are tireless and dedicated - I give you that!
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On 9/23/2017 at 6:40 AM, Michael Walton said:
Good for you, Sandy. I'm happy for you that the "strength of the evidence" has changed your mind. It has done the same for me - it shows that the shoehorning of this evidence to fit a clone narrative just isn't plausible and doesn't have the ring of truth to it.
Have you read the book or not Michael?
Visited the Baylor Poage site and see any one of the notebooks there?
Browse thru the CD which comes with the book containing hundreds of exhibits?
Just wondering how much actual work with the evidence and the book itself you have... versus
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4 minutes ago, Michael Walton said:
When I read his reply, I thought to myself - I rest my case. I knew there had to be something odd about his way of thinking and his reply confirmed what I'd always thought.
Michael....
You can stop the childish tactic of third person discussion... I'm right here and you can speak to me directly...
It's intellectual wannabe's like yourself who believe they can sum up my or anyone's POV from the comfort of your home screen... I quoted Zinn as he helps identify the sheep like you. Those patriotic zealots who think the USA is the home of the free and the brave.... and our foreign policy is for the benefit of the rest of the world
If you'd like to whistle thru life believing all is as it seems... and there are no conspiracies... and the rich, powerful Military Industrial Complex is on YOUR side.... what are you doing on a conspiracy forum discussing the JFK case 50+ years after the fact?
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Sandy -
Tracy offers no answers. His only hope is to plant reasonable doubt and pray it spreads.
There are hundreds of point of evidence which prove the existence of the two men.
Just as there are hundreds if not thousand of points of evidence proving Oswald innocent of both crimes he was accused of...As you so back-handedly mention, I've written quite a bit that is published and much more in the forums...
I spent 2 years with Armstrong going thru each footnote and source in his book.... some are speculative... the overwhelming majority is not.YOU did not sit with these people and interview them... did you?
YOU did not spend 10 years at the Archives acquiring documents not offered anywhere else - did you?
What YOU are doing is trying to climb on his shoulders and kick him in the face in the process because you entirely too preoccupied with rebuttal to offer anything original or new.On 9/21/2017 at 4:04 PM, W. Tracy Parnell said:WHO???? would be better served by abandoning the H&L fantasy, and that is what it is, and he might be taken more seriously
Take a bit of your own medical Tracy. Showing you can't add to 123, 200 or 210 helps your cause... how? shows you should be taken seriously... why? simply because you take a contrary position on something you barely cover 10% of? Cherry-picking a few items and hoping they extend to every item is wishful thinking but not helping your credibility much.
Reading reports about Oswald's time in Ping Tung and then claiming he never went doesn't change the FACTS... he went while Lee Oswald was treated for STD...
I am truly not concerned about the level of seriousness others see in me... Read what I write, see how I present it and support it and make your own decisions....
There remains one simple fact... the 5'11" 150-165lb Lee Oswald was not the same person as the 5'9" 135lb Harvey Oswald killed by Ruby.
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You see Tracy... everything that conflicts with your conclusion is branded a mistake...
They read the chart wrong, they can't add, other people looked at it and you're not a doctor....
WAKE UP! or at least pull your head out long enough to think for yourself for a minute....
Do you see a 3rd molar there?
Do you see the records showing the 3rd molars and a 5th tooth are missing?
Do you see the Oct 81 report showing a full set of teeth except for the one extracted tooth...?
except that tooth was already gone when he entered the marines.... and shows markings as if it was being described BEFORE they realized it needed not to be there in the first place... Ooops...What part of "Missing Teeth and Existing Restorations" from 1956/57 do you not understand?
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Dude... you wanna bury your head in the sand or some other friendly dark place have at it... you point to a report and proclaim "see we're right".... and then act the deaf/dumb/blind fool when asked to consider the information offered...
"The Marine's medical reports are all wrong"... remains you and Parker's only rebuttal to the prima fascia evidence of the existence of two men known as Lee Harvey Oswald.... he wasn't in Ping Tung- cause the reports are wrong; he wasn't treated for an STD in Atsugi- cause the reports are wrong; He attended 200 days of school during a period with only 123 available school days- the reports must be wrong...
and on and on... and of course this reply to Ely's work on the Oswald bio is... wait for it..... a misinterpreted report...
your rebuttals have descended from plain crappy to pathetically weak and desperate.Luckily, those reading have their own minds and can go to the sources and find out for themselves...
Difference here being you want people to believe you and Parker's take on the evidence... We simply want people to look at the evidence themselves. You're pitching an alternate reality while I post the evidence....
btw - can you prove Oswald's grave was not disturbed... I seem to remember damage not usually found so soon after a burial...
no?
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Do you or do you not see 3 molars when the marine records show they are gone..?
I'm not questioning the report nor playing doctor.... Lee goes into the Marines... Harvey gets buried... kinda simple even for you Tracy.
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Again... well after the limo leaves DP
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To each his own Keyvan....
Please notice this is well before that
photofilm frame was taken... Zapruder and Sitzman are already walking away from the column...When the limo gets to the overpass, we have Z486.... so yes Zapruder of course kept filming... but the photo at the bottom of your post is not seconds after the shooting... it's well afterward.
I've been looking at what you're posting for a long time... here is Altgens #8 taken within minutes of 12:30... they had not yet even reached the pergola... I believe you're mistaken about a pergola shooter... there is simply little if any evidence other than the subjective view of someone interpreting the evidence.
Do me a favor Keyvan... timestamp the image at the bottom of your post... tell me exactly where it's from please....
Thanks
DJ
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The point, the hair does not cover the mastoid operation scar... it's behind the ear and down a little.
Again Tracy, Rose noted a tiny scratch treated with iodine at the left mastoid... but no operation scar...
Rose was not Humes Tracy... Rose was a real doctor who knew what he was doing in an autopsy. Just read the Tippit and Oswald autopsies for how JFK's SHOULD have gone....
And you still cannot fit 200 days of school into 123 days available.... no misreading on your part is necessary
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2 hours ago, Keyvan Shahrdar said:
Most JFK researchers have seen Zapruder frame 313 where it shows a headshot to JFK's right temple area from an Assassin. Most people assume that was the last shot taken by the assassins. In analyzing the Zapruder film, there is a jiggle right after Z-frame 313 and Zframe 330, confirming that a shot was taken after Z-frame 313.
Hey there Keyvan...
First off I agree there is evidence - much more than a jiggle - that a shot or shots were fired after 313... the question is whether or not the FBI/SS created this last shot to account for 3 shots and 3 hits.... or whether it actually existed. Since there is no room to place a third shot before the 1st or between the 1st and 2nd and make it sound like BAM,,, Bam-Bam... a third shot was placed 4 feet from station 5+00 or 35 feet further down Elm than z313...
I wrote a paper on the shot(s) after 313 which was found to be the 2nd shot up until May 1964. You should know though that a shot at 313 would not produce a jiggle at 313/314... the timing is too fast... sound travels slower than the bullets. but if you're interested in a shot after z313:
Warren Commission Document (WCD) 298: How the Bureau Made a Fourth Shot Beyond Z 313 Disappear
https://statick2k-5f2f.kxcdn.com/images/pdf/JosephsFBIZ313.pdf"The Jimmy Darnell film shows a frame with two assassins right after the assassination and before Zapruder and Sitzman got off the pedestal they were standing on" - To me it appears Zapruder and Sitzman are no longer on the pedestal in this photo, they are back in the pergola.
Most people aren't aware of WCD298... just doing my part to spread the word
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1 hour ago, W. Tracy Parnell said:
Because a person's teeth change over time. The best experts in the country examined the remains and found no significant anomalies that were unexplained. Unless you are saying that you know more than they do.
You gonna believe your eyes or what people tell you...?
There are 3 molars in each corner of his mouth, the boy going into the Marines only had 2...
You gonna tell us now that molars grow back after death?
Your rebuttal here Tracy is terribly weak... The teeth are not the same, the autopsy doc does not note a single one of the scars the Marines noted, nor does he have the scar from the pistol discharge thru near his elbow.... which happened to Lee.
Your "LOCK" evidence, this exhumation report, actually proves our point and contradicts yours...
The teeth cannot lie.
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17 minutes ago, W. Tracy Parnell said:
The exhumation is rock solid proof that these was one and only one LHO.
Not so much Tracy...
Why do the Marines claim this man had 5 missing teeth yet the exhumation claims only 1, and are supported by the photos...
Shouldn't there only be 2 molars per side if this is the same person as the Lee Oswald the entering Marine?
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The mastoid is not under the hairline Tracy... nor does Oswald have hair there...
Rose noted the "scratch" and recent antiseptic on the left mastoid muscle... so he certainly looked at that area...
But Rose would have no reason to NOT disagree with the official story... not like people who disagreed were dying or something...
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Tracy,
Here is the Fact sheet from Oswald's autopsy... in 2 versions...
1) shows the scars discovered as he entered the marines and how none of these scars appear on the FACT sheet.
The gunshot wound is not there, the mastoid is an ancient scar yet this is how that was described in the Rose autopsy:
40 minutes ago, W. Tracy Parnell said:And Earl Rose admitted they could have easily missed the mastoid scar. It was behind the ear and they weren't looking for it
Not so much Tracy.... from the Oswald autopsy report:
At the upper end of ties right sternocleidomastoid over the skin is transverse very superficial 3/4 inch scratch with some reddish antiseptic type of paint surrounding this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sternocleidomastoid_muscle
This 3/4" 18 year old scar is a "scratch" that required antiseptic?? Sounds to me like a scratch from the Theater fight.... not an old scar.
So you see they did see the mastoid area and yet did not see a 1" left mastoid scar.... but just a scratch.
and 2) here is an autopsy report excerpt ... do you see anything marked "23 inches from the top of the head"
that would constitute Ruby's entrance wound? or anything that says 1/4 x 5/16 inch in diameter?Seems the only scars missing are the ones that would ID him as Lee and not Harvey....
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6 hours ago, Sandy Larsen said:
David,It's possible that Fritz's notes indeed WERE written at the time of the questioning. And that the top line ("Claims 2nd Floor Coke when off came in") was written in later when it was decided that Oswald had to be getting a Coke from the machine. The Coke story was needed to explains how Baker noticed that Oswald was in the lunchroom. He could not have seen him through the window, but he could have heard the Coke machine drop the Coke. (This is how Stan Dane explained the need for the coke story, and why it kept changing.)
I'm fairly sure that has been proven false... what amazes me is the changing of the shirt and pants which remains in the notes...
That absolutely destroys Bledsoe and McWatters and the cab driver... since they lied... what evidence against the innocent Oswald can be trusted?A different story is presented by the second set of
notes acquired by the ARRB. The Warren Commission
observed that during Oswald’s various interrogations,
“Captain [Will. Fritz of the homicide and robbery
bureau did most of the questioning, but he kept no
notes and there were no stenographic or tape recordings.”
5 On the other hand, it was clear that Fritz possessed
some sort of notes, for he told the Warren Commission,
while recounting the interrogations, that “...I
kept no notes at the time, and these notes and things I
have made I would have to make several days later...”.6 http://www.jfklancer.com/pdf/haappanen-notes.pdf
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15 hours ago, Michael Walton said:
You must have a really deep-seated dislike or mistrust of the government to think that they could have done the things you and others think happened with the JFK case.
And you must be one of the most naïve people on this forum...
In the midst of the BS we see every day on the news related to our government... are you really that much of a newbie that you don't see the world for what it is?
Howard Zinn introduced 2 American laws of politics:
1. Never believe anything until its been officially denied (just watch the last 2 months of news to see that axiom at work)
2. No matter how paranoid you are, what the government is doing is actually much worse than you can imagine.
(if you can't see that truth in history, I truly do not understand your world POV)
Michael... other than JFK I research and write about World history, spycraft, and the growth of the corporate government state - Ike's warning of course came true...
Tell you what... you offer up a single significant American history-changing event that did not have conspiracy involved..
It's sad to think that smart people like yourself are fooled into believing what you're told is the truth...15 hours ago, Michael Walton said:And no one is running, David. To be honest, the silliness on this thread - though funny - can be tiresome too. It's often like telling your kid there are no monsters in your closet but they keep going on and on and on "But, but, but...." Even kind, patient parents have a limit.
You see Michael, what you call silliness is someone else's work, focus, passion. I've been in contact with Tom for years and while I too have a difficult time understanding, the core concept is not so hard.... spies used anagrams to communicate - agreed? If you can't get past that statement with agreement... why bother commenting on something so outside your understanding?
Since they did use anagrams.. and Igor Vaganov has been associated with Tippit and the assassination AND Nagell was involved... (were you aware of Vaganov to begin with?)
Why again is what Tom is doing.... so silly that you can't offer simple courtesy... especially since you offer nothing to refute any of it?
hmmm... kinda looks a little like Oswald too...
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Leaves and sunshine....
Just like no Badgeman either... only that person peering over the fence to the left
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I need to add that the questions asked related to this signed statement were were the same for evey one...
They were basically pre-written
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On 9/13/2017 at 4:21 PM, Michael Walton said:
LHO said he was "out front with Shelley," just like he said he was a patsy.
#1 - this is Fritz claiming weeks later what Oswald said... his notes were not extemporaneous
#2 - as written, he is "out front with Shelley" after the officer with Truly stop him
FBI Agent Bookout offers a slightly different take on that single line scrawled by Fritz well after the fact... Bookout is describing what he heard Oswald say... Fritz's notes were from memory much later...
This is either complete FBI BS to back-up the Fritz Baker Truly story... (which I believe)
or it is accurate...Having proven on a great thread here - the 2nd floor lunchroom encounter could not have happened as offered as well as conflicts with Baker's same day affidavit. Probably never happened at all...
This appears to be an attempt to move "prayerman=oswald" inside the building since it really was Oswald "out with Bill Shelley in front" during the assassination.
I should add that Shelley claims Mr. Viles was on the landing with the rest of the people:
Mr. SHELLEY - Well, there was Lloyd Viles of McGraw-Hill, Sarah Stanton, she's with Texas School Book, and Wesley Frazier and Billy Lovelady joined us shortly afterwards.
Mr. BALL - You were standing where?
Mr. SHELLEY - Just outside the glass doors there.
Mr. BALL - That would be on the top landing of the entrance?
Mr. SHELLEY - yes.Except Mr. Viles tells us he was somewhere else..... Looks to me that Shelley switches Viles for Oswald....
thoughts?
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As usual...
self-appointed critics jab-jab-jab and run... yup... now I'M giggling....
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Just now, Michael Walton said:
What I find truly hilarious - and probably the most unintentionally ironic posts of late here - is how Jim Hargrove is having a hard time keeping up with Tom Humes' funny ICO secret code posts.
As if!
OMG really and truly so funny. I'm giggling even as I type this.
Mr. Walton...
You have anything to rebut the work of Mr. Hume?
You have anything that disproves his theories?
How well versed are you at anagrams - enough so to speak intelligently about it and how it relates to spy craft?IOW Michael... laughing at what you don't understand is both demeaning to the person and indicative of the openness of your mind to new ideas...
Lifton was met with the same silliness when the casket charade was being unearthed.... until he was proven correct.
Forgive me if indeed you've studied spy craft anagram communications and can explain how Tom is wrong...
or are you of the opinion that the CIA/KGB and every other Intel agency on the planet do not use anagrams?
A Couple of Real Gems from the "Harvey and Lee" Website
in JFK Assassination Debate
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This just shows how little you know about H&L, John Armstrong and the entire process involved.
Instead of talking out of the side of your @$$ Mr. P, maybe learn something first... then butcher it in your posts...
Your and GP's only response to McBride is "He's wrong"... While the rest of us dive deeper, you and yours proclaim victory, do your little dance and forget that you're missing 99% of the evidence.
You can rant about the "riots" ... but you simply cannot fathom the connection between proving H&L false and GP's published work... if JA is correct, GP is S.O.L. Therefore, the non-stop minion attacks.
The last thing John needed to do was publish a book - which he did at his expense... or offer the results of 10 years of Archive visits...
Your repetitive vitriolic posts demeaning the work of the man is tiresome at best... learn to count Tracy. Learn what "CONSPIRACY" looks like
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