David Josephs

11 minutes ago, Denis Morissette said:

Weatherford was not on a roof during the parade. He was standing on the street with his colleague. 

When was he on the street Denis and based on what evidence?

On 12/19/2022 at 8:06 AM, Lance Payette said:

That - THAT - would silence the irrepressible Lance? I think not.

That - THAT - was "10 outta 10"? Only in Conspiracy World.

Here is Fred Litwin's post, which seems to irrepressible Lance to pretty much take the wind out of Jim's big mystery: https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/the-search-for-the-holy-grail-continues.

Consistent with the article I linked, Lopez concluded Oswald was NOT a CIA agent.

Lopez also agreed the WCR got the trip down and back correct as well...  

Not so much.

Wow, Lopez publishing in Blakey's final report says Oswald not CIA...  stop the presses!

In protection of the president... why do you supposed Harry would be so upset?

68-08-15 Harry Weatherford threatens Roger Craig years later as Craig gave up Weatherford's position on 11-22 on the county records building roof.pdf

4 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said:

Yes, I am asking. I have not done serious research on LHO's visit, or lack of, to MC 

I am asking, what provoked the three KGB officials to tell Frontline they had in fact met the real LHO in MC? 

1. They were frauds, not the true KGB officers in MC.  

2. They were the real KGB officers, but were paid off to lie.  

3. They were the real KGB officers, and had in fact met LHO in MC. 

I gather from that we have seen, US intel has failed to establish LHO was in MC. No photo, for starters. 

Do we have a complete review on KGB reports or Embassy reports from MC during the relevant period? 

 

4.  They were real, lifetime KGB agents, who in fact perpetuated the lie about Oswald in Mexico...

If your question is going to include all the possible wrong answers we get a tautology.

So I'd have to ask in return... What provoked CBS to create specials to lie to the American people and the world about the assassination?  What provoked Time-Life to do what they did with the films, frames, images and WCR fantasy?

Ben, I think what happens as we continue to discuss this is that we become desensitized...  In the real sense of the word there was a coup d'etat in the US... a successful coup not like that sloppy mess on Jan 6th.  this was a coup run by the US Military and carried out by those beholden to that Military, which in 1963 was virtually everyone.

There would be no reason EVER to allow the pieces of said coup to form a picture despite the fact we both know that parts of the picture puzzle are as plain as day to see...  The true cutters of the puzzle pieces can only be culled from a very select group.. Dulles, Angleton, Helms and their closest were, as I see it, carrying out military orders with Military Intelligence, although with the added benefit of the CIA's CI machine.

But let's be real clear here.  Without the Military and the Military's budget.. the CIA was a toothless doberman...

You ever wonder why everything always falls on the CIA as opposed to ONI or MID?  Just maybe it was planned that way?

In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way.

Franklin D. Roosevelt

6 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:

Does this include the question by Eddie Lopez near the end of the interview when he asked her: 

How tall was the man you talked to about the in transit visa? 

She asked Cornwell to stand up and said, "He was about that tall."

A mild giggle broke out.

Gary is about 5' 6" on a good day.

 

Here you go Jim... on the right

8 hours ago, Matt Allison said:

"At least one Mexican source on the CIA payroll had told his case officer that "all that would have to be done to recruit Ms. Duran was to get a blonde, blue-eyed American in bed with her.""

One wonders if that was the original putative reason for a visitor calling himself "Oswald" at the embassy...

Matt - 

Like the rave party that Oswald never attended, Duran's reputation based on her looks and affair with Carlos Lechuga former Cuban ambassador to Mexico and at the time Amb to the US.... would in no way mean she was as "wild" as the CIA and Leibeler would make her out to be.  

Who was this Mexican source Matt?  It's important.

8 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said:

DJ-

Obviously, I am not as familiar with these documents as you.

1. I gather you are saying you have seen relevant USSR documents regarding LHO putative visit to the Soviet Embassy, and those documents do not indicate LHO visited the embassy.  Docs like the CIA's Oct 9th Cables?

2. Also, CIA intercepts of KGB communications do not reveal an LHO visit to the Soviet Embassy. Correct

3. The KGB officers in question contemporaneously also deluded their own government regarding the LHO visit to the Embassy.  Why do you say "contemporaneously" as if there was not plan to deceive...  KGB sends its officers out to lie about the KGB...  One of the things I believe I've learned is that the USSR of the time was into DISINFORMATION muich more than trying to steal anything from us... there were enough willing Americans to give secrets away.

4. Although by 1993 the old Soviet Union had collapsed, the three KGB officers felt they had to continue the ruse. 
"Look how gullible the USA government and spy organizations are..."  Please Ben, it's 2023 and docs are still hidden while scores are gone forever.

5. You do not indicate whether you suspect the KBG officers were simply paid off for their performance on Frontline.
I don't know one way or another.. if you have any proof of such payments please post.   
I have a Q for you Ben, when in the life of an ex-CIA agent do you think they start telling what appears to be the truth about anything? We have Trento and Agee divulging yet only because so few non-CIA know any better.

Ben, while the documents are indeed the door... it remains the players who are most important to straighten out.  I disregarded what occurred in Mexico on purpose because of LOPEZ's off-hand acceptance of the WCR conclusion that Oswald made the trip.   

The 2 documents which began my journey are the New Orleans visa and the Hotel Registry.
(https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/the-evidence-is-the-conspiracy-index)

WE 2478 and 2480.   The 15 day visa (actually good for 180 days) is made out to "Lee, Harvey Oswald" yet signed as we have seen his signature a million times.  The rule at the hotel is the guest signs in day 1 while the manager writes in the name each day for the length of the stay.  The man who signs "Lee H. Oswald"

Puts "Lee, Harvey Oswald" on the hotel registry - overlays - mimicking the visa (visa acquisition being another ruse)

I came to learn that every item of evidence was the work of OCHOA with direct evidence he added and changed documents before giving to the FBI and the fBI only provided copies, never originals.

Point remained... if the Visa was the work of Gaudet, which I believe was so, creating the evidence after the fact created all sorts of problems for OCHOA and the FBI....  When I then learned that all 4 Mexican bus lines' main and Nuevo Laredo locations were raided the day of the assassination with only the records for Sept 26 thru Oct 4th removed... from all 4, and by "representatives of the government"

Even the FBI's own reports contradicts which line they think he was on as he traveled and are even worse in MExico when we are treated to the Aussie ladies and the MacFarlands....  both of whose evidence is terrible for something so vitally important. 

Then there was OSBORNE/BOWEN

And how what he says appears in the report:   You'd have to read some of the work to dive deeper into the "others on the bus" who had anything to say about an American.  Those who do are invariably tied to DAP or the Gobernacion which had both a CIA asset and FBI asset running things.

9 hours ago, Pat Speer said:

The false story to which Hoover alludes was almost certainly the story spread by Nicaraguan intelligence agent Gilberto Alvarado that Oswald had received money while in the Cuban consulate. If you are trying to imply that Hoover believed Oswald never traveled to Mexico City, you should point us to his saying so, or to an FBI investigation into where he really traveled. 

I have PAt... many, many times and with substantial supporting evidence.

Alvarado's story was a DAP invention...  Kinda sad when it stares you in the face and you'd rather find any other solution

Please also remember that Seymour Weitzman was referred to as "Officer Whitman of Robie Love Office" by Boone, another Sheriff under Decker.
 

A bit of a conflict over when he was in the sporting goods business...  plus it didn't LOOK like anything... the rifle in evidence is clearly marked, kind of.
So one has to ponder why Boone and Weitzman are so sure at the time...  an unscoped Masuer with a stripper clip would have made a much better weapon from that spot than an unaligned, scoped, POS, firing POS bullets. 

Joe Ball: Are you fairly familiar with rifles?

Seymour Weitzman: Fairly familiar because I was in the sporting goods business awhile....

Joe Ball: Now, in your statement to the Federal Bureau of Investigation, you gave a description of the rifle, how it looked.

Seymour Weitzman: I said it was a Mauser-type action, didn't I?

Spartacus claims that for the 15 years prior to his joining the police force, he worked at a woman's dress shop...

Weitzman graduated from Indiana Engineering School in 1945. He returned to Dallas and was district supervisor and manager for Holly's Dress Shops for 15 years.

On 1/3/2023 at 7:56 PM, Benjamin Cole said:

David Joseph:

Congratulations on presenting such detailed information. 

What do you make of the three KGB officers, including Kostikov, meeting with PBS-Frontline in 1993 and attesting they met the "real" LHO on Mexico City? 

Start at about 1:03.

Are the KGB agents simply paid off? Confused by a very good fake? 

 

(Thanks for the kind words Ben)

Let's see... why would KGB officers lying about Oswald being in Mexico... in support of the CIA.. their immortally locked enemy?

1 - they never saw the FBI reports from Nov 1963 looking for Oswald
2 - they never heard DURAN fabricate her meeting with this man
3 - they were not fully aware of the complete 180 degree turnaround on ALVARADO
4 - the ongoing lie to this day via June Cobb and cousin de la PAZ that Oswald was at some Rave party
5 - the scores of other names who claim to have experienced some interaction with Oswald, yet all lead back to Phillips

How would it make them look if they let it known the entire thing was a ruse...  We have to accept that the KGB played with the Seat of their Government as wildly as the CIA played with ours....  

During the months of July, August, September and October the CIA also listened in on KGB home lines, private personal lines on which they reported.  Extemporaneously as would be expected, reports in Oct and Nov SHOULD be filled with KGB/Soviet discussion of that crazy American...

I have the book too... just for Sh!ts and giggles...  Kostikov claims Oswald is there on the 27th at 12:30.

This report was buried with emphasis on the 28th (BS CIA transcript) and the 1st which supposedly corroborates it being Oswald on the 28th.  

More importantly is the HSCA testimony of BORIS TARASOFF...  I suggest reading all of it as he only remembers 2 conversations not 6... and all the DURAN phone conversations from the morning of the 27th are pure CIA CI.

At least how I saw it after a few years of working on it

2 hours ago, Matt Allison said:

So what are we to make of Win Scott's claim that he had a surveillance pic of Oswald going into the embassy?

Since it was in his unpublished manuscript, perhaps Scott was sending something of a coded message to his co-workers; "Those cameras were working. And I personally have a picture of the guy that claimed to be Oswald. Be careful with your plans for me."

Win Scott = CIA

And he doesn't say he has a photo of Oswald but a man Scott believes impersonated him.  How does Scott even begin to know what Oswald looked like?  The scramble in MX was for HQ to get the Navy to send a photo.  Goodpasture straight out lies about the photos... when and where and who.

If our man in Mexico had a photo of Oswald... what's the point of a memo like this, incriminating his staff (Manel/Goodpasture) as the ones misinforming others about photos as shown below..

And how can it be a threat that Scott reveal this Oswald photo?  It's the proof everyone wants...??  If anything he would have a mark on his back for having a photo of a man which would prove Oswald was not there... enter JJA and a disappearing safe.

Joe...  I am of the strong opinion that the rifle DAY carries out is not the rifle in Evidence...

As I've alluded to, the written descriptions are eerily close and much more specific than needed on an affidavit...  "I saw the rifle" would have been sufficient.

Weitzman then Boone.

Finally... our man Brennan who did/didn't see what happened did say this...   A scope seems less and less possible first from this statement and second from the reality a shooter at this distance with a moving target would not use a scope....

Food for thought. (btw - Boone calls Weitzman "Whitman from Robie Love office")

On 1/3/2023 at 3:08 PM, Matt Allison said:

David- if you have access to the September and/or October reports can you post a link to them? Thanks

I do Matt... They are in the 17-18 release and I believe there are links to them in the articles...

This is the one sent Oct 8th, day after Phillips arrives, for All of Sept coverage.  At the bottom right I include an earlier reports "exploitation" section to show how detailed a call/visit report on an American speaking person gets....

The October report does not get to HQ until Nov 14

1 minute ago, James DiEugenio said:

David:

DId not the Russians approve the application?

I don't know that we've seen the application Duran refers to - the one she sends to Cuba for a visa... the one in our records does not show a denial...  I am of the opinion the photos are attached to "the" applications after the fact.

On 1/3/2023 at 1:17 PM, Keyvan Shahrdar said:

You always have good info.  This puts things in perspective.

https://www.jfk-assassination.net/russ/testimony/oswald_m1.htm  In reading Marina's testimony, she never states that Oswald went to Mexico.  She however says that he wanted to go to Mexico not that he went to Mexico.

Within the the days after 11/22 she is asked by the FBI and SS and both her answers were negative as to her having any knowledge Oswald was going to Mexico...  Ruth says the same.  this is the FBI

SS report

2 hours ago, Mart Hall said:

I was referring to Azcue Lopez, in his HSCA testimony Azcue Lopez says the man who came to the consulate did not look like the photograph of LHO that was attached to the application. 

Yes, Consul Eusabio AZCUE Lopez specifically says it was not the Oswald killed by Ruby...  On a side note, AMMUG-1 tells us the manner in which AZCUE is described as dealing with an American wanting to go to Russia/Cuba as completely the opposite of how he needed to behave... as if he know this was not a defector...  AZUCE's job was to keep tabs upon and turn Americans interested in Cuba/Russia...  He like most of them was KGB.

As to that photo...  I get pretty detailed into how that could not have been the images attached to the application...  the top two were found in his photo album and is described by Marina as a photo of him in Russia.

Worse yet the signatures on both applications are different as well as the carbon not coming close to matching the original....  and finally, if you go to the exhibits, the top of one is cut off while the bottom - with his signature - is cut off the other....

CORNWELL - So, from all the circumstances, did it appear to your that he just went somewhere locally and had the pictures made?
TIRADO - Yeah. I think that I already explained (to) him where he could take the photographs.
CORNWELL - You told him some locations in town where ge could go? Were there some right in the neighborhood of the Consulate there?
TIRADO - That I don't remember.

CORNWELL - And what did you do with the photographs?
TIRADO - Stapled them.
CORNWELL - Stapled them?
TIRADO - Yes.
CORNWELL - On top of the application.
TIRADO - Yes.

Please notice the photocopy of the CC does not have a staple holding the photo in place... there's nothing there...

The WC choose not to show DURAN the photo on the application while a call between ARMAS and Dorticos specifically state that DURAN did send in an application and it was declined:

There are so many things right and wrong with an identification as a Mauser... and a scoped Mauser at that.

The scope mounts on the Mauser obscure the word MAUSER as well as the caliber.
MASUERs use stripper clips...  SINCE THERE WAS NO CLIP IN SIGHT.. and the stripper clip is discarded after loading this is very possibly the reason Weitzman says it's a Mauser.... 

What stikes me as strange is the reading of the Boone and Weitzman affidavits... they are virtually identical as if they are given a script...  raising the question...

"Why specifically name the caliber of the rifle in a signed legal document when according to so many DAY shows them a 6.5 FC Carcano?  or does he?

The photo below on the right side under the "CAL 7.35" is the only photograph depicting the rifle in evidence's caliber...  (part of Riva's job in Italy was to sand off the serial numbers and etch "Made in Italy" (https://www.kennedysandking.com/images/pdf/JosephsRifle.pdf).  Expanding on Armstrong's great work with the rifle origins https://www.kennedysandking.com/images/pdf/JosephsRiflePart1.pdf will give a good understanding of the events leading to placing a rifle into evidence.

On 1/1/2023 at 2:31 PM, Evan Marshall said:

I am fascinated how Phillips has morphed from a conspirator to a reliable source of information

Interesting comment Evan... but I believe an overshot.

If one is able to read and connect information over a vast network of data, we find that some of what he says does wind up being substantiated and authentic... although wrapped inn other lies and misdirection.

I would never use the CIA or MAFIA as sources for reliable information until it is Authenticated...  until then I'd say the fall into the "Really good leads" category.

FWIW

On 12/30/2022 at 4:07 AM, Sandy Larsen said:

 

Oh my gosh, I've always been under the impression the J. Edgar Hoover thought that the Oswald at the CUBAN Consulate was an imposter. But reading the evidence for myself, I see that it was the Oswald at the SOVIET Embassy that Hoover said was an imposter.

Does anybody know if Hoover felt the same way about the Oswald at the Cuban Consulate? Or is our knowledge of that guy also being an imposter based only on other sources? (Duran's and Azcue's descriptions, Cuban intelligence, two CIA plants not seeing Oswald.)

 

On 12/27/2022 at 4:47 PM, Matt Allison said:

LHO visited the Odios Wednesday night, September 25th, 1963, so it still works within a timeline of him going to MC.

I believe it was Thursday night

The Texas Employment Commission building is but 4-5 miles from the cafe where Mrs. Norman worked, L.B. Day confirms her story while Leon Oswald is not at Sylvia Odio's in Dallas until the early evening of the 26th. Sylvia's testimony suggests that the 26th or 27th was possible and that she had been to work that day (although she finally does settle on the evening of the 26th as the time and date).

On 12/26/2022 at 9:04 PM, Matt Allison said:

Yes, and ostensibly we have a way of knowing if that is true or not, via this:

 

I go into the monthly summary reports in my essays...  For September there is NO MENTION OF OSWALD while mentioning 2 direct leads from the same sources...

CHOADEN/PHILLIPS sends himself pouches from Mexico as he traveled back and forth

On 12/26/2022 at 1:07 PM, Pat Speer said:

Yes, Oswald went to Mexico. There's a ton of evidence supporting as much.  

And yet, even so, the photographs a low-level CIA employee thought were of him were of someone else, quite possibly someone impersonating him. 

Why? 

Because he wasn't where the CIA said he was when they said he was there. And the higher-ups couldn't reveal this without revealing an ongoing operation. 

Because some muckety-mucks thought there was a mole within the agency with access to secret records and were thereby hiding from where certain information had been received. When they received intelligence from spies within the embassy, they would pretend they got the info from a wiretap, etc. They would have someone pretending to be that person make a phone call and leave a message revealing the nature of the info obtained from the spy. "Hi, my name is Oswald, and I like Russia and I thought I would come into the embassy and reveal national secrets", whatever. 

To admit this impersonation to the WC would have been both embarrassing and damaging to national security. 

We can suspect the CIA had photos of Oswald in Mexico in their possession in the days after the assassination. It was just that the timing of these photos was in conflict with the phony timeline they'd invented. So they tossed them in the burn bin. 

 

No Pat... he didn't..  For the entire month of November Hoover had agents and assets looking for any sign of Oswald in Mexico including their asset OCHOA at the Gobernacion

A day before the famous "memos" go out Phillips arrives in Mexico...  amazing.

The #1 double agent in the Cuban Embassy was LITAMIL-9 who was extremely close to AZCUE and helped identify photos of visitors as part of his gig there...  He like everyone else can only point to CIA transcripts and FBI controlled evidence for his being there....  Maybe read one of my 5 chapters on the subject...  The FBI's reconstruction of a journey that never happened is absurd.

For example...  if the man was known as "O.H. LEE" why is the evidence offered to use with his name alphabetized under "O" ??  between MOORE and OUELLET...  and this is just the tip of the disinformation iceberg...

The man Ruby killed was not in Mexico at the end of Sept/Oct 1963... and there is truly no reason to believe anyone impersonated him...  spycraft Pat...  Phillips was a master of CI...  Alvarado, DURAN, Tarasoff, and so many more....  read the actual FBI reports and see if what they say makes any sense...  or you can just read my series at K&K....  they arbitrarily put Gobernacion employees on the passenger lists and then had them testify it was Oswald...  Teresa PROENZA claims Oswald first speaks to her when entering the building...  talk about a backstory on a person...

No Pat... our little Oswald was elsewhere...  if someone was there trying to leave the impression Oswald was there... they did an incredibly bad job

On 12/26/2022 at 12:50 AM, James DiEugenio said:

I hope everyone had a good holiday and I wish you all a Happy New Year.

I am sorry I did not reply to Sandy, but Mexico CIty is so complicated and so contingent on things  not reliable that I did not feel like working on it on a Holy Day.

But I will just add this: one reason we do not know the whole story is that Phillips and Goodpasture lied to the HSCA. And they lied on material points.

It was so bad that Danny and Eddy wrote up bills of indictment for them both.

The reasons being evident in the Lopez Report.

And I ask you to consult Gaeton Fonzi's book for the memorable scene when Danny confronted Phillips with the color coded chart of all the disinformation artists who came out of the woods to manipulate the aftermath of Oswald not being in Mexico City.

Danny knew they all related back to Phillips.  As he unveiled the chart, Phillips ended up going from one to three cigarettes in the ash tray, and apparently oblivious to how many he had already going..

Consciousness of guilt?

 

Lopez's report aided... was he aware of what he was doing with this one sentence?

ps... all the info he had on Mexico came from the CIA or CIA related assets...

On 12/25/2022 at 5:06 PM, Sandy Larsen said:

 

Here's a transcript of the relevant part of the video. Mark Lane speaking:

Oswald was to go to Cuba from Mexico city and then fly on to the Soviet Union. That's the story that was told to the Warren Commission. And the CIA went on to say, however, we don't believe that the Russians or Cubans were in any way involved. But if the story gets out, people will not believe us and that's why hundreds of thousands of Americans will die in a war which is going to take place. That's what they told Earl Warren and scared him. He really was frightened by this.

The problem is, the story was a fabrication. Oswald had not been to Mexico City. The person who designed that whole story was a man named David Atlee Phillips who ran the agency from his office in Mexico City. And not long before he died, several years ago, he spoke at USC and I was on the program with him. He said that, in fact, Oswald never was in Mexico City, which destroyed the entire story which had been told to the Warren Commission.

And when that was reported, an apologist for the Warren Commission had said that yes, he said it. We can't deny that he said it but this is very well publicized, this statement, that Mark Lane had subjected him to a cruel, grueling, cross-examination and confused him and that's why he said it.

It was a meeting at USC. I was on the panel and he was on the panel. I directed no question to him at all. And a student got up at the end and raised the subject, which I had not, and was, can you tell us about Mexico City, Mr. Phillips? There was no cross-examination. It was just a kid asking the question and that's when, Phillips then said Oswald was never there.

And so the cover-up was that I subjected him to this cross-examination which I didn't ask him anything, it was a student that said it, but that became the mantra of the establishment to try to explain how the man who ran the Central Intelligence Agency for the United States and elsewhere, and did it from his office in Mexico City, made that statement because of my brilliant cross-examination, although I never asked him a question. And so here we are now, 50 years later -- almost 50 years later, and there still are files which are classified. We don't even know the number but we know they are in the tens and thousands of documents that are classified because of reasons of national security, which obviously makes no sense 50 years later.

 

I think Hoover knew On October 10 when he sees that cable...  He KNOWS Oswald is elsewhere... on the way to Odio with "comrades" via Austin.   hidden within over 1600 documents is the reality he never went and Tarasoff aided as a CIA contract employee...  FWIW

55 minutes ago, Joe Bauer said:

If only DPD Chief Jessie Curry had not felt so obsessed that the public needed to see that his department was not mistreating Oswald in their custody that he overruled the concerned suggestions by many that he move Oswald ( the most threatened criminal suspect in our history ) at night without public announcement and under much more physical protection versus announcing his broad daylight transfer to the press along with a time frame and allowing his rather small and tight parking basement to be filled by a crowd of jostling, blinding flash bulb press people resulting in security breach negligence that allowed the armed strip joint owning, DPD deli sandwich delivery boy Jack Ruby unchecked access into that press crowd to blow a hole into the wide open LHO.

Thereby creating the largest public event movement of government suspicion and mistrust in our history.

https://harveyandlee.net/Oswald_Killed/Oswald_Killed.html

John and I worked on this and still so much had to be left out...  We were quite amazed at what we learned as I think will you..

15 mins to 45 mins prior to the shooting Sgt DEAN empties out the basement parking area sending the police there for traffic duty...
If you are looking for an obvious way he gets in, unnoticed and possibly helped by Croy...  please read...

Enjoy

DJ