Robin Unger

Paul O'Connor drawing of the morgue at bethesta. QUOTE: According to Sibert, when the body was placed on the table, the people who were on the floor went into the anteroom(cooler room) while the x rays were taken, but there was a window in the door. They could see what was going on through the window. Stainless Steel table positioned over Kennedy's body for ORGAN placement and weighing.

Fritz notes are found. Released by the ARRB 11-20-97. (4) Pages Continued Here

Exellent: Thanks James you have a good memory. Earl T. Smith and JFK.

QUOTE: Hi Robin, I have read a description of the process involved in putting on the back brace and it did say it involved slings around the upper parts of his legs. You may be right there john, i remember hearing that before somewhere. There is a photo somewhere showing kennedy wearing his back brace, i saw it about a year ago. I think it was Richard Smith who posted it, James might have a copy in his Archive, ?

"Muchmore Frame" showing the seating positions.

Bloodstain Pattern Analysis and the Kennedy Assassination. by Sherry Gutierrez Article Here

Hi John. Re: JFK Back brace. To my knowledge the brace went around kennedy's "waist only"

Hi John. Interesting post. Here are a couple of pics from my website: I beleive they are part of the Marsh Collection. Below is a "Very Large" image of the limo taken from the right hand side. It might give you something of a better resolution to work with. Click Here

QUOTE: Robin; Your posting of the "Boswell Drawing" which was done during the autopsy, left off the bottom portion which also shows the semi-circular piece of bone which contains one-half (basically the top half) of the EOP entry wound, as well as the straight line drawn into the (one-half) of a hole in this piece of skull. Tom Thanks. I had not seen that before. ?

When you lighten the back of the head autopsy photo's you will notice what Boswell in his ARRB testimony said was a scalp " hair piece " which could be pulled forward over the skull to cover the open cavity where the skull was missing. As Boswell explained in his ARRB Testimony if you look at the B/W image below you can see that the doctor is holding the hair between his fingers in order to pull the scalp forward and cover the skull cavity

Boswell's 1996 revision.

I Colorized the frontal X-pray to try and get a more 3-dimensional image of the head wound. I don't see how it is possible that kennedy's face could have appeared natural with the massive loss of bone to the right frontal area of his head. There appears to be a large fracture and bone loss behind the right eye. The RED line below indicates the REAR of the skull. The BLUE line indicates the FRONT of the skull.

John. Here is another photo showing the same area. Below is a link to the "very large" original copies of the autopsy photo's. They are beleived by many to have been "altered" from the original photo's taken at the time of the autopsy. http://www.jfklancer.com/aphotos.html

QUOTE: The pictures which I saw with Bill were very similar to some of those later made public. One was of the "death stare" but was more defined. Both Bill and I saw what appeared to be an entrance wound at the hairline directly above the outer corner of the right eye. Another photo showed the back of the head. This one showed a wound approximately 3" x 4" involving the occipital and parietal bones. Bill and I felt this to be an exit wound. It was not until 1979/1980 when I first saw photos of the massive wound to the head where a flap in the frontal bone area appears. The 16 mm film was on a "hand-crank" editor when I entered Bill's office. We looked at about 3 feet of it while I was there. What I saw appeared to be the onset of an autopsy exam, as no Y incision had been made in the torso. Yes, the men, in civilian clothes, where dressed in dark suit and ties. The first ones I saw came in with the hearse and the shipping casket. Later that evening, I saw others in the passageway outside the morgue (they may have been the same ones), I was not paying that much attention to faces, etc. The actions of the ones I saw were what you would expect under the circumstances. I am familiar with the story of the body of an AF Major being brought in that night. As far as I know, that's all it is, a story. When the hearse arrived, I was standing on the dock as it backed up to the dock. Several men in suits got out of the rear of the hearse. I assume they were SS, they did not show any ID's to me. These men moved the coffin from the hearse, hoisted it onto the loading dock where my detail picked it up and carried it into the ante-room (where the coolers were) and set it down. The other two men in the hearse were the driver and is assistant. Both impressed me as being civilian, due to dress and mannerisms. I had a brief discussion with the Driver, during which he stated "....we came up 16th Street to Jones Bridge Road and came in by the back gate." The men in suits did follow the casket into the ante-room or stood in the passageway outside the morgue. After my detail had set the casket in the ante-room, I dismissed them and proceeded to go to the front of the NNMC. Where I observed the arrival of the Navy Ambulance arrive and Mrs. Kennedy's entrance into NNMC. Would like to make three points here: 1. If the shipping casket had contained an AF Major (04), the body would have been accompanied by another AF Officer of equal or higher rank. No such officer accompanied the shipping casket. 2. On the following Monday or Tuesday, I had occasion to ask Dr. Boswell, "...which casket was the President's body in...". His reply "... you should know, you were there." I was only present at the arrival of one casket that evening, the grey shipping casket. 3. Paul O'Connor, among others, will tell you that the body of the President was removed from a shipping casket. Finally, No I would not have been notified by the morgue personnel IF another casket came in that evening. This would have been recorded (if it occurred) in the Morgue Log, which I understand is "missing". Dennis D http://www.jfklancerforum.com/dc/dcboard.p...e=&topic_page=2

Update: New information from Denis: posted on Lancer forum today. Re this image which i posted some time back showing a temple wound. Denis has today confirmed that this WAS the wound he saw. Richard Smith. QUOTE: I think Robin originally posted this photo, a close up showing what may be the entrance hole Dennis described. Dennis, could you confirm this location as what you saw? Denis David. QUOTE: Richard: That is exactly what I saw in the photos. Except your "attachment" is not as clear and defined as the photo I saw. If you draw a line bisecting the right pupil and parallel to the sides of the photo, you will see the area I am refering to at the hairline. At a Pittsburgh meeting of Paul, James, Gerald, Floyd, and myself, the issues of forged/altered photos and x-rays was discussed. Gerald stated he took 17 x-rays that night. Floyd stated that between himself and Stringer approximately 130 photos (approx 60% BW and 40% Color) were taken at the autopsy. I don't think that many x-rays have been made public, to say nothing of the photos. Yes, there was a feeling that some of the x-rays and the photos were forged/altered/touched-up. You will find much of this in the book by William Law. Dennis D

Thanks Lee. I like that pic of the TSBD.

Jesse Curry at Parkland. Large Image: Click Here

Clean truck with the Caravan parked behind it.

Tom. Could you possibly make your images a little bigger, i am having trouble reading the fine print. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That is part of the "conspiracy". Best get your magnifying glass out if you want to find the hidden items of the Warren Report. How do you think I found the survey data change? Anyway, would not have thought that you would even follow the ravings of a "LN"er. Tom <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Tom. I was following your posts, but i would rather not have to use a magnifying glass if it can be helped. I am 52-years old and my eyes are not what they used to be.

Thanks JL Yeh that is it. QUOTE: CE 887 - Photograph of Special Agent Lyndal L. Shaneyfelt, taken on May 24, 1964 QUOTE: After reading some of Tom's other threads - I think your request probably had more to do with those rather than this one... Correct assumption:

Cop looking at the red stain on the ground.

James. Is this the same guy who appears on the right of your image.

Tom. Could you possibly make your images a little bigger, i am having trouble reading the fine print.