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John looking at the coats in this muchmore frame, there appears to be a stiff breeze blowing from the north west.
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Thanks Nic. Nice photo.
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Exellent Lee. I had not seen any of those pics before.
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VOLUNTARY STATEMENT. Not Under Arrest Form No. 86 SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT COUNTY OF DALLAS, TEXAS Before me, the undersigned authority, on this the 22nd day of November A.D. 1963 personally appeared Austin Lawerence Miller W/M26 Address 1006 Powell Circle, Mesquitte, Phone No AT 5-2998 Deposes and says: My Business Address is Texas and Louisiana Freight Bureau, 125 Union Terminal Bldg. and the phone number is RI 1-1396. I and Roy Shelton who works with me was standing on the Tripple Underpass bridge with a large group of people watching the Presidential Motorcade. I saw a Convertable automobile turn West on Elm off Houston Street. It had preceeded about halfway from Houston Street to the underpass when I heard what sounded like a shot a short second two were sharp reports. A man in the back seat slumped over and a woman in bright collored dress (Orange or Yellow) grabbed the man and yelled. One shot apparently hit the street past the car. I saw something which I thought was smoke or steam coming from a group of trees north of Elm off the Railroad tracks. I did not see anyone on the tracks or in the trees. A large group of people concreated and a motorcycle officer dropped his motor and took off on foot to the car.XXXXXXXX /s/ Austin L. Miller Subscribed and sworn to before me on this the 22nd day of Nov A. D. 1963 /s/ (illegible) Notary Public, Dallas County, Texas WC Testimony: Mr. BELIN - Did you see any police officer around there? Mr. MILLER - There was one on both sides of the bridge. Mr. BELIN - Well, describe what happened. Did you see the motorcade come by? Mr. MILLER - Yes sir; it came down main street and turned north on Houston Street and went over two blocks and turned left on Elm Street. Got about halfway down the hill going toward the underpass and that is when as I recall the first shot was fired. Mr. BELIN - Did you know it was a shot when you heard it? Mr. MILLER - I didn't know it. I thought at first the motorcycle backfiring or somebody throwed some firecrackers out. Mr. BELIN - Then what did you hear or see? Mr. MILLER - After the first one, just a few seconds later, there was two more shots fired, or sounded like a sound at the time. I don't know for sure. And it was after that I saw some man in the car fall forward, and a women next to him grab him and hollered, and just what, I don't know exactly what she said. Mr. BELIN - Then what did you see? Mr. MILLER - About that time I turned to look toward the - there is a little plaza sitting on the hill. I looked over there to see if anything was there, who through the firecracker or whatever it was, or see if anything was up there, and there wasn't nobody standing there, so I stepped back and looked at the tracks to see if anybody run across the railroad tracks, and there was nobody running across the railroad tracks. So I turned right straight back just in time to see the convertible take off fast. Mr. BELIN - You mean the convertible in which the President was riding? Mr. MILLER - I wouldn't want to say it was the President. It was a convertible, but I saw a man fall over. I don't know whose convertible it was. Mr. BELIN - Where did the shots sound like they came from? Mr. MILLER - Well, the way it sounded like, it came from the, I would say from right there in the car. Would be to my left, the way I was looking at him toward that incline. Mr. BELIN - Is there anything else that you can think of that you saw? Mr. MILLER - About the time I looked over to the side there, there was a police officer. No; a motorcycle running his motor under against the curb, and jumped off and come up to the hill toward the top and right behind him was some more officers and plainclothesmen, too. Mr. BELIN - Did you see anyone that might be, that gave any suspicious movements of any kind over there? Mr. MILLER - No, sir; I didn't Mr. BELIN - Did you see anyone when you looked around on the railroad tracks, that you hadn't seen before Mr. MILLER - No, sir; I didn't. We was all standing in one group right at the rail looking over, and the police officer, he was standing about 5 or 10 feet behind us. Mr. BELIN - Now about how many were there in that group altogether, if you can remember? Mr. MILLER - I would say in the neighborhood of 10 or 12 people. Maybe more, maybe less. Mr. BELIN - Apart from those people, did you see anyone else in the vicinity at all on the railroad tracks? Mr. MILLER - There was one young man or boy. He was going to come up on the tracks, but the officer stopped him and asked him where he was going, and he said he was going to come up where he could see, and he asked if he worked for the train station, and he said, "No," so the police officer made him go back down. Where he went to, I don't know. Mr. BELIN - When was this? Mr. MILLER - Oh, before the President came along. Mr. BELIN - About how much before, do you know? Offhand? Mr. MILLER - I couldn't say. Mr. BELIN - Do you know anything about this man or boy that you described? About how old he was, or anything? Mr. MILLER - I can't think. I would say he was in his early twenties. Mr. BELIN - Tall or short? Mr. MILLER - I don't remember that much about him. I do recall him coming up and the man talking to him and turning him back. Mr. BELIN - So he went back down? Mr. MILLER - Yes. Mr. BELIN - Where did he come up from? Mr. MILLER - He came up from the - I am going by where I was standing. He was from our left, from around behind that parking lot. Mr. BELIN - Did you ever see him again or not? Mr. MILLER - No, sir; I didn't. Mr. BELIN - Did you ever see anyone else in that area at all or anything on the railroad tracks at any time? Mr. MILLER - No, Sir; not until after the shots were fired and the police officers came up the hill and climbed over the fence and started searching. Mr. BELIN - That was the only other people that you saw? Mr. MILLER - That is all I recall seeing.
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FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date 3/10/64 Mr. WALTER LUKE WINBORN, 2823 Maple Springs, Dallas, Texas, was interviewed at 500 South Houston Street, Dallas, and furnished the following information: Mr. WINBORN stated he was presently employed as a switchman for Union Terminal Company, 500 South Houston Street, Dallas, and was so employed on November 22, 1963. On this date, Mr. WINBORN took a position on the Elm Street railroad viaduct so that he could observe the Presidential motorcade and President KENNEDY. As the motorcycle escort and the vehicle carrying the President approached the viaduct, Mr WINBORN heard three distinct shots ring out. Mr. WINBORN stated he was not able to ascertain exactly where the shots were fired from and his attention remained on President KENNEDY and the motorcycle escort. He stated, however, that the shots sounded as if they all came from the same area. Mr. WINBORN stated that very shortly theafter the motorcycle escort dispersed and one motorcycle was abadoned by the police officer riding it on the grassy slope on the north side of Elm Streetand this officer rushed up the steps leading to the pavillion and was lost from sight. The vehicle carrying the President immediately left the area at a high rate of speed. Mr WINBORN then moved away from the east edge of the viaduct, where he could get a clear view of the area to the West of the Texas School Book Depositor Building (TSBD). he remained at this point and observed the approach to the railroad tracks for a few minutes, but failed to see anyone moving toward the railroad tracks. Mr. WINBORN stated he then returned to his work and had no further personal kmowledge concerning the activities in this area. Mr. WINBORN stated he did not know LEE HARVEY OSWALD and had never met JACK RUBY. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- on 3/17/64 at Dallas, Texas File # DL 100-10461 By Special Agent THOMAS T. TRETTIS JR. and E.J. ROBERTSON Date Dictated 3/17/64 http://jfkassassination.net/russ/wit.htm
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Note: the same phrase used more than once "saw President KENNEDY slump Forward" FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date 3/19/64 Mr. GEORGE A. DAVIS, 1443 North Beckley Street, Dallas, Texas, was interviewed at 500 South Houston Street, and furnished the following information: Mr. DAVIS stated he was a signalman for the Union Terminal Company, 500 South Houston Street, Dallas, and was so employed on November 22, 1963. On this date, he took up a position on the Elm Street viaduct overlooking the route taken by the Presidential motorcade. shortly after the motorcycle escort and the Presidential car came into view and was at a point just east of the viaduct. Mr. DAVIS heard a sound which he described as similar to firecrackers exploding. He stated they did not sound like rifle fire because they were not loud enough. All shots were very close together and he stated it was impossible for him to determine the number of shots. He stated his first impression was that someone had played a prank, but then he saw guns in the hands of the Secret Service Agents with President KENNEDY, saw President KENNEDY slumped forward, and the police motorcycle escort manouver swiftly about the area and he realized it was not a prank. Mr. DAVIS stated his attention was directed to the motorcycle escort and the car in which President KENNEDY was riding, and he saw very little, if any, other activity in the area at that time. Mr. DAVIS stated he returned to the same spot he had occupied on November 22, 1963, at a later date and from this spot attempted to observe the Texas School Book Depository window from which the rifle shot was reported to have been fired. He stated he was unable to see this window from the position he had occupied on November 22, 1963, because the branch of a tree obscured the vision from this point. Mr. DAVIS stated he did not know JACK RUBY and had never met or seen LEE HARVEY OSWALD. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- on 3/17/64 at Dallas, Texas File # DL 100-10461 By Special Agent THOMAS T. TRETTIS JR. and E. J. Robertson Date Dictated 3/17/64
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Witnesses on the overpass: Using Don Roberdeau's plat. Foster, Potter, Dodd, Miller, Skelton, Reilly, Murphy, Bishop, Holland, Winborn, Johnson, Cowsert, Davis, and (3) Unknown. Note that nearly all of the witnesses were interviewed together on 3/17/64 in Dallas by Special Agent THOMAS T. TRETTIS JR. & E.J. Robertson Dodd FBI Testimony. QUOTE: FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date 3/18/64 Mr. RICHARD CALVIN DODD, 1216 South Tyler, Dallas, Texas, was interviewed at Lamar and Henning Street n Dallas, and furnished the following information: Mr. DODD stated he is employed as a track supervisor for the Union Terminal Company, 500 South Houston Street, Dallas, and was so employed on November 22, 1963. On this date, he took up a position on the Elm Street railroad viaduct overlooking the route used by the Presidential motorcade on this date. Mr. DODD stated that when the motorcycle escort and the automobile carrying President KENNEDY approached the area where he was standing his attention was directed on President KENNEDY. He stated he first realized something was wrong when he saw president KENNEDY slump forward and simultaneously heard shots ring out. He stated he did not know how many shots were fired, but that the sounds were very close together. Mr. DODD advised that his attention remained on President KENNEDY; he did not look up and did not know where the shots came from. Mr DODD stated he did not know LEE HARVEY OSWALD and had never met or seen JACK RUBY. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- on 3/17/64 at Dallas, Texas File # DL 100-10461 By Special Agent THOMAS T. TRETTIS JR. & E.J. Robertson Date Dictated 3/17/64 http://jfkassassination.net/russ/wit.htm
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Dealey Plaza 1968
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QUOTE: These are contact sheets of the photos taken during the June 15, 1961 installation of communications equipment into the President limousine at the WH garage. ST-141-1-61 shows two technicians installing components under the dash. ST-141-2-61 shows a technician working on the telephone in the rear seat compartment. ST-141-3-61 shows two technicians working on the dash center console. Click Here -
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QUOTE: These are contact prints of the photographs taken on June 15, 1961 of the installation of communications equipment into the newly delivered Presidential limousine. ST-141-4-61 shows the dash console. ST-141-5-61 shows a technician installing components under the dash. ST-141-9-61 shows the microphone (Motorola) clipped to the left of the dash center console. ST-141-10-61 shows the antennas install on the trunk. Click Here -
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Credit: Anthony Marsh. QUOTE: This is a photograph taken on June 15, 1961 of the new limousine during the installation of communications equipment. Notice the palm sized microphone clipped to the left side of the dash center console. The design is a Motorola. Click Here -
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I agree Ron. Hi Nic. Got it right that time. James. That Tony Izquierdo guy on the left in your image, my impression when i first saw him was that he looked like a railway worker in those clothes and cap. ? -
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Hi Nick. Yes that footage would be gold, she was only a few feet away from the Limo when Kennedy's head exploded, also we would have a great view of the grassy knoll area. -
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James. You can see that guy's face in Willis (2), he is standing directly behind Kennedy's head, i think he is much heavier set than Hunt. He looks to be on the move just as the limo turns the corner into Houston. -
Oswalds Marine ring
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Oswald Cut and Paste job. Replacing the original head with the oswald head, and also adding the new hand holding the newspaper. This was a crop i did from a "Blow UP" of one of the backyard images which i found in the DPD File box (12). http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/40/4084-001.gif You need to "soften" the image a couple of times to get the best resolution. http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/
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Charles Brehm and his son, Babushka Lady, Jean Hill , Mary Moorman. -
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Hi The man with the boy is "Charles Brehm" he was standing next to the Babushka lady during the motorcade. QUOTE: CHARLES F. BREHM, 1619 Kings Highway, was interviewed at his residence at which tme he furnished the following information: He and his five-year-old son went to downtown Dallas to view the President's motorcade, and the parked their car in the Main-Houston Street area about 15 minutes before the motorcade was due to come down Main Street. He took a vantage point on the northwest corner of the intersection of Main and Houston Streets and from that point, he was able to watch the car in which the President and MRS. KENNEDY rode, maing a right turn from Main Street into Houston Street. After the President's automobile had rounded the corner into Houston Street, he picked up his five-year-old son and ran across the grass from Main Street over to the downhill curved portion of Elm Street which leads from Houston Street to the Stemmons Expressway. He and his son stood right at the curb on the grass and saw the President's car take a wide swing as it turned left from Houston Street into Elm Street. When the President's automobile was very close to him and he could see the President's face very well, the President was seated, but was leaning forward when he stiffened perceptibly at the same instant what appeared to be a rifle shot sounded. According to BREHM, the President seemed do to stiffen and come to a pause when another shot sounded and the President appeared to be badly hit in the head. BREHM said when the President was hit by the second shot, he could notice the President's hair fly up, and then roll over to his side, as Mrs. KENNEDY was apparently pulling him in that direction. BREHM said that a third shot followed and that all three shots were relatively close together. BREHM stated that he was in military service and he has had experience with bolt-action rifles, and he expressed the opinion that the three shots were fired just about as quickly as an individual can maneuver a bolt-action rifle, take aim, and fire three shots. BREHM stated he definitely knew the President had been shot and he recalled having seen blood on the President's face. He also stated that it seemed quite apparent to him that the shots came from one of two buildings back at the corner of Elm and Houston Streets. Immediately after the third shot rang out, BREHM pushed his son down on the grass and for the moment was more concerned with the safety of his son who might be hit accidentally by any wild gunfire which might follow. BREHM expressed his opinion that between the first and third shots, the President's car only seemed to move 10 or 12 feet. It seemed to him that the automobile almost came to a halt after the first shot, but of this he is not certain. After the third shot, the car in which the President was riding increased its speed and went under the freeway overpass and out of his sight. As soon as the President's car went on its way out of sight, numerous reporters and police officers came running down the hill to the general area where he was standing and many of them gathered around him and began asking him questions. He answered questions of reporters and police officers to the best of his knowledge and recollection, after which he was escorted up to the Dallas police station where he was interviewed some more. He estimated that he was detained at the Police Department for a period of two hours before he was finally permitted to leave. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/brehm.htm -
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That is the best Cancellare image I have ever seen, and I had in hand Peter Lemkin's 11x14 purchased by him from Life Magazine! Thanks! Jack <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thanks Jack. Credit to Lee Forman for that image, he kindly gave me permission to share it with the forum. -
Deputy Sheriff Harry Weatherford entering a TSBD window.
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Photographers Bob Jackson and Jack Beers
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Young couple on the grassy knoll.
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Howard Brennan and Charles Brehm in front of the TSBD.
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Photos secretly taken at Bethesta by Life photographer Bob Phillips.