Kathleen Collins

I met Robert L. White briefly when he appeared at a local library with some of his enormous Kennedy Collection. A friend of mine at the time and I went to the Museum in St. Petersburg, FL where it was going to be a permanent collection. We went on a holiday and they told us they were closed. We mentioned Kennedy's Exhibit. They said all they had left was the Bay of Pigs. It was supposed to be an experience, where you would walk through the exhibit surrounded by the Kennedy Collection, which ultimately brought you to the Assassination. Two days later, we heard he died. I wasn't harboring any suspicions about it then. But now my radar has gone up. The obit I have says he died suddenly of a heart attack. He was 54 but didn't look it. The Kennedy family went after his Estate for Kennedy items. They left quite a few things with the Estate. Guernsey Auction was selling the remainder. One thing they auctioned was a money clip which Jackie gave President Kennedy early in the marriage. It was found in his pocket the day he was assassinated. Here's the obit: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn41...16/ai_n10926873 Robert L. White [Corrected 10/18/03] Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, The, Oct 16, 2003 Robert L. White, 54 JFK memorabilia collector Thursday, October 16, 2003 Baltimore -- Robert L. White, whose assemblage of John F. Kennedy memorabilia grew to become one of the largest and most significant private collections of the late president's effects in the world, died of a heart attack Saturday. He was 54. White was a teenager when he began collecting items related to the 35th president during the 1960s, writing to him to request an autograph. He continued collecting after the assassination in 1963 and was helped by some Kennedy relatives and former cabinet members. The biggest boost came from Evelyn Lincoln, Kennedy's personal secretary whom White befriended. He became executor of her estate and was willed rare items from her collection after her death in 1995. White's collection was estimated to be worth $5 million and held about 100,000 items. Kathy

Guess he didn't know English too well either - this does not strike me as a NYC, New Orleans, or Dallas accent, either. Very odd. http://www.russianbooks.org/oswald/tapes.htm - lee "Oswald," speaking on this tape, in my opinion, is not an American. That is not an American accent that I know. I agree with the person who said it sounded like a foreign accent with a British edge to it. Really odd. According to John Armstrong, Harvey was the Oswald in Russia. It just doesn't seem like that's Harvey, shot by Ruby, speaking on the tape. In one of my writer's workshops (I'm a novelist) there is a Serbian man, very well-steeped in Hungarian. He's a tremendous writer and he has an accent. But it is not similar to the accent Oswald had on that tape. Think of Bela Lugosi speaking. He was Hungarian, who learned English in America. His accent is quite different to LHO's accent on this Russian tape. As far as that short Oswald goes, maybe that's a picture taken before LHO reached puberty. I don't recall when someone said it was taken. FWIW. Kathy

Ever wonder whom Dealey Plaza is named after? Dealey was a military man who struck down 5 Japanese crafts in one night during WWII. You can read about him here: http://www.valoratsea.com/dealey.htm Name: Samuel David Dealey Rank and Branch: Commander, U.S. Navy Born: 13 December 1906, Dallas Texas Other Navy Awards: Navy Cross with three gold stars, Silver Star Medal Citation: For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty as commanding officer of the USS Harder during her fifth war patrol in Japanese controlled waters. See his picture below. (He reminds me a little of Black Jack Bouvier.) Kathy

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=4472 Is it possible that Claude Barnes Capeheart was the mystery man who posed as LHO in Mexico? Kathy

I don't know how these photos will come out. One is of a man who impersonated Lee Harvey Oswald in Mexico. The other was taken after the assassination by the doorway of the TSBD. The man to the very left of the picture has a certain resemblance to the Mexico man. Are they the same person? Kathy

Hi Kathy, Good Questions. The Photo of Bush in front of the Book Depository sure looks just like him and I found some from the Parkland Hospital that look just like him also but it is mostly from the back and just a little to the side. Jim Jim, if you are able to, could you post the photos of Bush at Parkland? Kathy I well give it a shot... Look Familiar folks? Notice the bulge above his left shoulder....It seems the cordinators had there own frequency. Now I could be leapin in logic here but When I first sent them to Gary at the 6th floor museam, he said the man was too short to be Bush. A friend of mine in Detroit calculated the height of the Police car and the curb he propbaly would be standing on and said the man was 6 feet 2" ...a match there. Then he said it was a another guy he knew but never came up with the name. He said he would ask George Bush for the museam What he was doin in Dallas when he told the FBI about the possible student threat to Kennedy when Bush says Please keep this confidential and I am on my way to Dallas". I can't recall would be typical. Jim Thanks for posting these pictures, Jim. At this time, I'm not convinced that it's George Bush Sr. I'd like others' opinions -- the photo experts. Kathy

Thank you. Kathy

Hi Kathy, Good Questions. The Photo of Bush in front of the Book Depository sure looks just like him and I found some from the Parkland Hospital that look just like him also but it is mostly from the back and just a little to the side. Jim Jim, if you are able to, could you post the photos of Bush at Parkland? Kathy

I am trying to write something about Lee Oswald. It's nothing major, but I need help and have scoured the Internet; and will continue to do so. I would like to know when a person calling himself Lee Oswald went up to Mae Brussells and asked her after a speech if she knew who he was. As Bill Kelly was there and is incommunicado with me -- I "stalk" Donald O. Norton, don't you know -- can someone give me the date this happened or year and season, something? Where did it happen? I appreciate your help, Guys. Kathy

Jim and other members of the Forum... We all know Harvey Oswald was working for the FPFC Committee. I wonder if Harvey knew about the coming assassination. Judyth, for what it's worth, said LHO knew Kennedy was going to be killed and was working to stop it. Phil's photos that you've shown by the DalTex building -- he even flew home with the man who filmed him -- Wasn't a theory reported somewhere that certain Mob guys or oil barons were instructed to be near Dealey Plaza on that day, and unknowingly, were there only to have pictures taken of them -- so if anyone claimed conspiracy, they'd study the photos and see those people. (Even George Bush?) Curiously, Harvey and Phil Ochs were both told to be in that vicinity. Supposedly they knew of a plot to kill Kennedy. Yet neither did anything to stop it. And one became the patsy. Ochs said he was there as a "security observer." Is it too far-fetched to think Ochs could have been set up as a patsy if something went wrong with Oswald? The 2 being on the FPFC committee and in Dealey Plaza when Kennedy was shot. We know so much went into setting up Harvey. According to Harvey and Lee by John Armstrong, lookalike Lee Oswald was shooting from the 6th floor window at Kennedy's limo on Elm. Could there be something going on we don't know about -- a setting up of Phil Ochs? A "double?" I wonder if he was murdered. Kathy

Jim, I would love to see those photos. Could you post them? Do you think Phil Ochs was murdered or actually killed himself? I remember he died by hanging. I have read recently, possibly on this website, that some oil barons and Mob types, were tricked into being in and around Dealey Plaza that awful day. Possibly to show it was a conspiracy, so everyone involved better shut up, they've been photographed. Maybe that's how Phil Ochs got tricked into being there. How you describe your childhood -- it sounds like the Hitler Youth, kids squealing on their parents for a political cause they don't understand. Kathy

James, those 2 photos. Who are they? And who takes photos of someone putting up curtains? Kathy

That's an interesting theory. I'm sure you know about his disinterment in 1967, where they moved him to a more prominent gravesite in the cemetery. Photos exist of this, but I don't know why the photos were taken. Because it was done with some secrecy in the middle of the night and a lot of military guards were protecting the cemetery. Also, there was some kind of container that was next to the grave after the coffin was lifted out, I believe. The thinking is this might be the missing brain. I don't believe he's buried in Dealey Plaza. Would Jackie have wanted that? Charles, where exactly do they have this memorial "slab" there? Kathy

Did you used to write for Mad magazine? SPY vs. SPY? Killing for Christ? Please, tell me this has all been satire. There was a priest at this college I went to who was famous for saying with such heart felt anger, "You people have a mission in this world -- and that mission is: Kill Commies for Christ." My "anger" about Castro being alive is just a visceral sentiment. I don't mean for anyone to invade Cuba, as we did Iraq. It's just I can remember as a little kid seeing this bearded, uniformed so-and-so on TV. And Kennedy is dead and his brother, murdered, and other assassinations, and Castro's still alive. To use an old saying, he's too mean to die. No harm meant. Kathy

About that jfkmontreal.com site. You can tell he's anti-semitic. He also has material on the death of John Lennon. How reliable is that? I've heard from another person to not believe a word he says. Did Jose Perdomo, aka San Genis, a survivor of the Bay of Pigs incident, have something to do with Lennon's killing, as he was the guard that night? Also his description of the Dakota -- is it laid out the way he said it was? Kathy Well I won't rule out gov't complicity in the Lennon murder, but I will rule out the jfkmontreal website. Thanks Kathy. I appreciate the input. You're welcome, Babe. Kathy

Will you show me some Beatle sites too? And since you're in England and I'm in America, can you tell me what the hell "Piccadilly Circus" is? Kathy

About that jfkmontreal.com site. You can tell he's anti-semitic. He also has material on the death of John Lennon. How reliable is that? I've heard from another person to not believe a word he says. Did Jose Perdomo, aka San Genis, a survivor of the Bay of Pigs incident, have something to do with Lennon's killing, as he was the guard that night? Also his description of the Dakota -- is it laid out the way he said it was? Kathy

Good post Sid (I've been away from the forum for a while). It's true that America's hard headed support for Israel and abandonment of any fair minded approach to the Middle East situation appears to be their only 'success' on the foreign policy scoreboard to date. If you can call the resultant toxic cesspool of hatred within the Middle East towards the US and Israel a success, that is. It's a shame that more Americans choose not to comment on the plight of the Palestinians after 40 years of cruel occupation. Perhaps Western sympathy towards oppressed people was exhausted by the global effort to rid the world of South Africa's apartheid regime. The apartheid regime was dismantled but South Africa is still here, proving that regimes can be pressured into changing for the better without the nation being 'annihilated'. The fact that the world's most powerful nation is totally incapable of influencing domestic Israeli policy towards the Palestinians strengthens my suspicion that Israel is indeed the missing piece in the JFK assassination puzzle, with the unconditional submission of the US to Israeli Middle East policy beginning almost immediately after JFK's demise. Ahh, those dark secrets are surely the tie that binds. I find this theory very interesting. There was talk that the Mossad had brought down the World Trade Center and 3 Israelis jumping up and down in glee. This is something I read on the Internet shortly after 9-11. And I recall Arab names not being on the manifest of the flights. There is a lot of info about 9-11 on the Internet. And though I now find it difficult to read or hear about it anymore, I wonder what your opinions are about Israel and 9-11. And also, was the Mossad behind the Palestinian convicted of killing Senator Robert F. Kennedy in 1968? Kathy

I kept getting "Not Found." There is also much controversy about a Princess Diana investigation to be shown tonight on BBC, Channel 4. Kathy

There are things I agree with you on. But the Kennedys are not all powerful. When John Kennedy Jr's plane took a nose dive into the water around Martha's Vineyard, Senator Ted Kennedy could not get the Coast Guard, or whoever patrols that water, to come out that night and look for the plane. They refused. Outrageous! You can find this on tomflocco.com. And if it seems that this country bows down to the Kennedys, it's because deep down we all know members of that family were killed for political reasons. I don't see why we should exhume President Kennedy. Yes, it was a f----d up autopsy. But I don't see what more they would find. The autopsy should have been performed in horrific Dallas. Regarding Aristotle Onassis, there are people who believe that he funded the assassination and then took the bride. I don't think he was behind it, though, and if he started to interfere, someone might have knocked off Jackie's kids. That's the main reason she left this country. As for Howard Hughes. Now why would he be interested in killing Kennedy? The man was racist. He despised dark-skinned people. (Citizen Hughes) I never heard or read this before but Kennedy was pushing Civil Rights legislation -- maybe that could be a motive. As for the Zapruder Film, researchers have convinced me that it was a blatant creation/alteration. I've said this before: the Govt wants us to believe what they tell us. But the last head shot obviously came from the front right. People are believing what the govt (Warren Commission Report) tells them, not what they see with their own eyes! Kathy

I think Walter Dew was the first cop on the scene of Jack the Ripper's final murder -- Mary Jane Kelly. And he was the police Chief Inspector who searched Crippen's house, found nothing and believed Crippen's story. Crippen got paranoid and left England for Canada, ultimately, which caused there to be a search on his house again and his wife's torso was discovered beneath bricks of his basement. He was later hung for the crime. Kathy What -- no more contenders? Can I go to 10 Rillington Place, where the guy killed women and hid them behind walls? That must have been a smelly place. I saw the movie but when the cops found the women -- they should have reacted to the stink. But they didn't. Unless I forgot it. Haven't seen the movie in decades. But I want my ticket. Don't get smart and change it to a one-way ticket to Transylvania. Kathy

I think Walter Dew was the first cop on the scene of Jack the Ripper's final murder -- Mary Jane Kelly. And he was the police Chief Inspector who searched Crippen's house, found nothing and believed Crippen's story. Crippen got paranoid and left England for Canada, ultimately, which caused there to be a search on his house again and his wife's torso was discovered beneath bricks of his basement. He was later hung for the crime. Kathy

I still think the trajectory from the knoll on Commerce St near the underpass top could not be achieved, as I still think it would hit Jackie. Also, he was hit on the right side. I did see an autopsy photo one time where there was a bullet hole under his hair, but I don't recall which side. And nobody's ever mentioned that photo again...? Kathy

Charles, I found this to support your opinion of Castro as a leader. It's in Harvey and Lee by John Armstrong. Armstrong says on page 890: "This leader, whether we like him or not, and whether we agree or disagree on his policies, has managed to stay alive and remain in power longer than any other leader in the Western Hemisphere, and most of the world. There is little doubt that Castro rules Cuba with an iron hand and the Cuban economy is one of the poorest in the Caribbean. But, because of his leadership, Cuba is no longer controlled by US interests as are many Central and South American countries. Because of his leadership, the Cuban people have been spared from the havoc, death, destruction, and atrocities which CIA ventures have brought to many neighboring Caribbean and Central American countries." Kathy

Aren't they still celebrating the arrival of Posada Carriles? We shouldn't let them get too happy down there. It isn't fair to the rest of us. Yes, but first we'll need a false flag operation, blamed on Cuba, to justify taking over the island. Who should be targeted? Well, we might be talking a little too soon. Cuba released a "new" video of Castro talking with a Viet Namese Communist leader. His hair is all gray. He looks like he's been sick, but he's still ticking apparently. http://video.aol.co Kathy