Kathleen Collins

That's another thing about this film. Greer turned to see what was happening behind him and jammed on the brakes, only to see Kennedy's head explode, then on with the accelerator to Parkland. Supposedly, removing the limo stop serves to hide Secret Service complicity. Are they kidding? Kennedy's agent in Love Field started to jog next to the limo and was called back by a secret service man who was evidently the supervisor. Now, they had to know a camera was trained on the limo from somewhere in Love Field. The SS man jogging, stops and throws up his hands like "It's your call." I feel his actions were for the benefit of whatever camera was filming them. And that there's SS complicity throughout that film. Kathy

Wow. What gall. I guess they're trying to tell the "truth" finally so President Kennedy can rest in his grave. And the rest of us, on forums like this, are just troublemakers. Kathy

[ Maybe it's my eyes or my perception, but the Zapruder Film, as we know it, proves to me that he was hit from the front-right. He receives his first bullet in his throat. When he comes out from the later-inserted sign, his arms are up and he's grasping at his tie knot. Obvious to me: he was shot from the front. Unless he recieved a paralyzing dart from Umbrella Man. But would a dart from the Umbrella Man hit him in the front or the side? This depends on where Umbrella Man was. To my eyes, he receives the last shot, the fatal one, from the right-front, the Grassy Knoll. As such, with its splices and all, why did they ever release this film? It seems they're telling us one thing, but we're seeing something else. Am I the only one who sees this? Kathy

Mailer was crazy about John Kennedy. He said his worst moment was when he was in a bar in NY and it came over the TV set that Kennedy was shot. He said things like Oh he's letting us think he's in danger, so we'll know how much we need him. Then, after what seemed forever, it came over Kennedy had died. Mailer always believed in conspiracy regarding the assassination. But he co-wrote Oswald's Tale and couldn't find any proof of conspiracy. The conspiracy believers became angry with him and his name is dirt to them. They view him as a sell-out. And there's a rumor that he had tax problems which disapperared when his book was published. Kathy

That sounds suspiciously like one of the bits from 'ALTERNATIVE 3', a UK 'mockumentry' from the 70s. Although done as an elaborate April Fools prank, many conspiracy theorists have taken it as being proof of everything from the "Apollo hoax" to the existence of UFOs. The show is full of fictional people, inaccurate dates, times, and hardware, and they said themselves that it was a stunt for entertainment purposes. This, however, has not stopped some people taking it as fact. Boy, would I like to tell someone on another forum his story was a hoax. Kathy

I seem to remember reading that there was a plan B if Kennedy was not shot. Apparently there was a car bomb that was to be detonated close to the motorcade. I recall reading that there were shooters on Stemmons Freeway and at the Trade Mart. Kennedy wasn't getting out of there alive. In 3 films, including the Z-film, I think the Nix film and possibly the Bell film, you can see a man running as though his life depended on it, from the triple underpass and across to Commerce St. I dubbed him "Running Man" sometime back because he was running toward the assassination. That afternoon, the FBI received an anonymous call from a man claiming he had stood under the underpass and saw a signal and heard bullets ring out. Strangely, as he's running towards the Assassination, you can see him flinching as he gets near Kennedy's limo. Someone on another forum suggested he'd seen a baseball go up in the air. But there was also the Cuban and the Umbrella Man -- more signals. Maybe he saw a rifle at the 6th floor window (Lee Oswald, not Harvey). Kathy

That was an amazing article I read. Fluoride causes cancer. Vaccinations in children in the early '60's were experiments. I even gleamed that the Rothchilds' were (are?) the most powerful of oil barren families. Could they have called for the Assassination? Or the Viet Nam war? I always wanted to know who was the richest family in the world. And I use fluoride everyday and I was vaccinated in the early '60's. I can see how Judyth fits in. It's just that I believe there were 2 Oswalds, most likely cousins. Two men using the same identity. Lee Oswald set up Harvey as the Patsy. Who was the Oswald she loved? My guess is Harvey, as she identified the man killed by Ruby as being her love. Harvey, who was married to Marina and who lived in Russia. Very interesting. But what about she learned the ancient Eygptian language and was deciphering writings on papyrus? And the Mormons were chasing her? Kathy I got a quarter says it's Lee. She said when Oswald got arrested he looked alot thinner. I believe she may have said his hair was thinning too.(This is why I'm bettin' on Lee--the man arrested looked different in these ways.) In order for me to quote exactly, I'm going to have to suffer through "The Love Affair" again. (For my sanity, Kathy, please trust my paraphrase, or you can watch it, okay?.) But SERIOUSLY, I don't believe she was ever with him (either H or L.) Part of the reason is the very thing you posted above: "But what about she learned the ancient Eygptian language and was deciphering writings on papyrus? And the Mormons were chasing her?"<----This is funny stuff!! Way too much imagination!. A prominent Kennedy researcher told me that when Marina was shown Harvey in his coffin, she went over and raised his eyelid. She was looking for the color of his eyes. I guess the 2 Oswalds had different eye colors. Kathy

Good stuff, Jack. Given that, this alleged pool of blood would have been just out of shot in the Tramps image, the one where they are being passed by the Ed Lansdale possible. This character would be heading directly toward where the blood would have been. BTW, I have always wondered if this unexplained stain on the Tall Tramp's trousers could be blood. James It looks to me like he peed himself, keeping in character as a hobo. He's got a smirk on his face, so he can't be in pain. Kathy

I liked her rendition of A Whiter Shade of Pale. She seems to be very well-liked in this country. The only problem I have with her is she's not quite loud enough. I've heard stronger voices. Kathy

What are buffalo nickels worth today? And Kennedy half-dollars? Kathy

Maybe they'll publish it on President Kennedy's birthday. Obviously, I have not read the unpublished book. But it is more of the same. Oswald did it alone from the 6th floor of the Texas School Book Depository. Kathy

There is nothing for hubble to see in the belts, they are invisible. What I meant was, are the Hubble Telescope photos the real thing, since Duane believes we don't know what space looks like? Kathy

Duane, I thought it was you who started the thread, but I didn't check. Someone I knew, who was a Kennedy Assassination expert, said he knew somebody who had a certain type of radio and tuned it into NASA's frequency when the astronauts where about to land on the moon the first time. He heard one of the astronauts say, "They're all over the place. I think they're watching us." He was talking about UFO's. And the moon was a station for them. What I'd like to know is, how close is the Hubble Telescope to the Van Allen Belts, and is it sending us accurate pictures? Since you had said NASA ruined our image of outer space. Kathy

I was thinking last night -- I remember Jackie's goodbye before she left the White House for good. Didn't Robert Kennedy speak? In my memory, he sat across from Jackie on a sofa that faced her. I've never seen Bobby's goodbye ever again. I wonder if that's on youtube.com. I have Jackie on video and photos, but not Bobby. That would be a historical video. I love youtube. Kathy

I love the Beatles. I had never seen this video before. It's terrific. The guys all look good and John Lennon sings the song without disguising his voice any. This is Lennon's full, idiosyncratic voice, unblemished. Also, you'll see a lot of teeth. When they first came over, George Harrison had a brown tooth in the front. And McCartney had weird, crooked teeth. I learned this when I saw an old picture of them and was amazed. I remember my father saying, "All the British have bad teeth." Anyway, McCartney's higher harmony is turned way down, so you hear Lennon. And I love the driving bass. (Ironically, this is the one Beatle song I don't have.) And the Beatles seem happy and Lennon healthy. http://youtube.com/watch?=guuv-DEg62k Kathy

Fair enough comment, but think about it some more: You know people are killed in automobile accidents - does that stop you travelling in them? Evan, of course more people die in car accidents than in space. How many people are ever in space? How many vehicles have to veer away from other vehicles up there? I get what you mean. But the roads on this planet we know. It's what we don't know -- space -- that scares me and I would bet many people. Say we never made it beyond the Van Allen belts. Are you, or the person who started this thread, going to say we don't know what space looks like? What about the images the Hubble Telescope sends back? They're not true? Kathy

If the offer still stands, and you have the software, I have the time. I am a quick study so learning how to use the software would be no problem at all. Didn't you run a forum some years ago? Thanks for helping him, Chuck. It sounds really interesting. Good luck. I think the tramps are E. Howard Hunt, Frank Sturgis and Charles Harrelson. (BTW Harrelson died recently in prison.) Kathy

Thanks for including Karyn Kupcinet in your gallery of pictures. Kathleen Collins

"No short-haired, yellow-bellied son of Tricky Dicky's gonna mother hubbard softsoap me..." "I'm sick to death of hearing things from tight-lipped, condescending, mommy's little chauvanist..." "I'm sick to death of reading things from neurotic, psychotic, pig-headed politicians..." "...from schizophrenic, egocentric, paranoid prima donnas, all I want is the truth..." Lennon's lines from the best of my memory. Kathy

Duane, You mention the monkey again; as I said you were right about it dying - but I have said it has no bearing on Apollo. Am I in error with any part of my Biosat 3 details? If so, where & what? What relevance does Biosat 3 have to Apollo? Exactly why would the monkey dying mean that Apollo could not have been achieved? I know if a monkey died after a few days in space, I wouldn't go up in any spacecraft afterwards. Kathy

I think an interested party should send Harvey and Lee by John Armstrong to Mr. Cockburn (what a terrible name). Kathy

This is scary stuff. The Hubble sent back unusual, even pretty, photos. Are they genuine? Reading this, I don't think anyone went to the moon. The moon in space is purple! -- my favorite color. What a shock. I'd like to know what they saw on the dark side of the Moon. It's something the rest of us can't see. Does NASA have pictures of it? How far up are our satellites? I'm thinking Google's Earth. Please answer. Kathy

The theory that MM's overdose was administered via enema is not in the Coroner's findings (someone please correct me if that is wrong). This theory was dreamed up later, I believe, an inference drawn from the condition of Monroe's colon. According to an author named Wolfe, Monroe was diagnosed with ulcerated colon in 1961, hence the condition of her colon at the time of death. I am not aware that anyone has refuted Wolfe on this issue. I never knew of that diagnosis. I know she had trouble getting to her set on time, and said she was sick to her stomach. She was a very nervous woman and would drink black coffee on the set all day (Marilyn by Norman Mailer), not knowing how it affected her. But I believe she was given an enema, and this wasn't examined. It's possible we don't have the real autopsy. Some author suggested that she had bruises on her body, not mentioned in the autopsy. What was Eunice Murray washing in the washing machine at 4:30 am? Soiled bed clothes? This activity was not mentioned in the police report. Kathy

Ron, I have seen that quote somewhere too. It might have been Peter Lawford's last wife, as he is the one who said that. You might find it in a book, Peter Lawford: the Man Who Kept the Secrets. But I definitely read that quote attributed to Lawford. Supposedly, Monroe took enemas so her belly would look flatter and as a weight loss method. I don't think it helped either way. This is weird but I think she was chronically constipated and that was the real reason. Kathy

That was an amazing article I read. Fluoride causes cancer. Vaccinations in children in the early '60's were experiments. I even gleamed that the Rothchilds' were (are?) the most powerful of oil barren families. Could they have called for the Assassination? Or the Viet Nam war? I always wanted to know who was the richest family in the world. And I use fluoride everyday and I was vaccinated in the early '60's. I can see how Judyth fits in. It's just that I believe there were 2 Oswalds, most likely cousins. Two men using the same identity. Lee Oswald set up Harvey as the Patsy. Who was the Oswald she loved? My guess is Harvey, as she identified the man killed by Ruby as being her love. Harvey, who was married to Marina and who lived in Russia. Very interesting. But what about she learned the ancient Eygptian language and was deciphering writings on papyrus? And the Mormons were chasing her? Kathy I got a quarter says it's Lee. She said when Oswald got arrested he looked alot thinner. I believe she may have said his hair was thinning too.(This is why I'm bettin' on Lee--the man arrested looked different in these ways.) In order for me to quote exactly, I'm going to have to suffer through "The Love Affair" again. (For my sanity, Kathy, please trust my paraphrase, or you can watch it, okay?.) But SERIOUSLY, I don't believe she was ever with him (either H or L.) Part of the reason is the very thing you posted above: "But what about she learned the ancient Eygptian language and was deciphering writings on papyrus? And the Mormons were chasing her?"<----This is funny stuff!! Way too much imagination!. What really scares me is the fluoride and the vaccinations... Kathy