Kathleen Collins

Basically, I am starting to believe that Robert Morningstar is correct. This man, Liggit, was the best cosmetician in the funeral business. What he had to do on Nov.22, 1963 was use J.D. Tippit's body as a substitute for Kennedy's, so as to control the autopsy; trying to make the wounds Kennedy should have had if he was shot from the front. He used his craft to make J.D. Tippit resemble Pres. Kennedy. Whatever he did, he did on Air Force Two during the flight to Wash. DC. So this was the battle between Kennedy's body and J.D. Tippit's. The body that went to the autopsy was J.D. Tippit's. The photos are J.D. Tippit's. So one thinks Kennedy's "body" was buried somewhat quickly in J.D. Tippit's grave. The assassins wanted Kennedy to look like he was struck from behind. But that final shot obviously came from the front. And the shot to the throat came from the Triple Underpass, where "cops," "Secret Service," and "FBI" must have been. Everyone else was told to get off the bridge. Also in the Bell film you get a glimpse of men on the railroad to the NW of the underpass. What were they doing there? There were several men. Why stand near railroad tracks if they wanted to see Kennedy? And there was a Spanish-looking man with a cap on, standing on the roof of a building adjacent to Kennedy's limo at a certain part of the Stemmons Freeway. Jackie was suspicious of Greer, the driver who stopped, allowing Kennedy to be shot.. I learned today from the Ochelli Show that there was a shooter on the roof of the Records building on the SE corner. His reflection can be seen on the Z-film in frames 71, 72, and .74. Kathy C

Good riddance.

The New York Times said that in 1994 the Zapruder Film was added to the Library of Congress. Could it be possible that it is different than the extant film we have? And why did it take so long to enter it? Kathy C

Andrew Prine never hurt a fly, except he was a womanizer and owns up to it. The Kupcinet family believed it was her downstairs neighbor, David Lange, now deceased. He came home drunk on the night she was killed about 12:30. This fit with the timing of the crime according to police. He also admitted he had been up to her apartment the day after Thanksgiving. He said the door was unlocked but he didn't go in. The police could find no proof of his having been in the apartment. They did find 2 sets of prints they couldn't identify. Kathy C

A new TV show in Chicago is beginning. I live in Florida, so I probably won't get it. Billy Jensen, apparently the host, contacted me through Facebook. He wanted to do a show about Karyn Kupcinet, also a Chicagoan. She was killed on Nov. 28, 1963 but no one knows for sure how or why. Billy interviewed me over the phone about her. For those who don't know, Karyn was the daughter of pioneering TV host, Irv Kupcinet. She was an actress and died in West Hollywood at age 22. Her father wanted to know about Jack Ruby, the Chicago angle. He called a mobster right after Ruby shot Oswald. Some people believe, myself included, that she was murdered to shut up Irv Kupcinet, who was also a columnist with the Chicago Sun-Times. This was also mentioned in a book called "Hit List" about the people who mysteriously died after Kennedy's assassination. People who knew something. The book was written by Richard Belzer and David Wayne. The interview was over the phone, not taped or anything. It occurred on October 11, 2015. Kathy C

These are all Cuban names. With regards to the Assassination, what happened to Eugene Braden or Brading, Mack Wallace, Tan Jacket Man, James Files, Badgeman, Umbrella Man, Agent Greer, David Ferrie, Johnny Roselli...? Kathy C

With all due respect...this sounds like something found next to the checkout at a supermarket somewhere...with "reliable," but not necessary provable, sources. I swear I did not read it in a tabloid, though those papers can be reliable. No, this was an account I read somewhere and don't remember where I found it. I couldn't stop reading it. So it will drive me to drink for the rest of my life. Also there was a mortician named Liggit who had something to do with Kennedy's embalming. He is not listed in Strobel's account. He is given an episode in TMWKK. Kathy C

Don Roberdeau, I wonder if you can help me find something I read a good year or two ago. I can't remember if it was in a book or on the Internet. I read an account where the body was somehow taken from the East Room that early morning and the undertaker's work was undone. They made the trajectories impossible to read by disturbing the bullet wounds. Then put him back together by a mortician. Somehow, the body was returned to the coffin in the East Room. They had removed his eyes (which were probably bulging.) Jackie and Bobby got whatever was left for the brain, which was buried with him in a stainless steel container. When Kennedy was reinterred in 1967, photos were taken. One showed Teddy standing next to an open grave. Next to him on the ground was a stainless steel container. I cannot find this photo again. In 1963 Bobby and Jackie decided to have him secretly cremated. A record of this may have been written by the crematory. There is an entry for a cremation in late November. While every other record names the person cremated, this particular one goes nameless. The ashes were buried in the coffin -- (or the stainless steel container?). This is all I can remember of the account. Don, do you or anyone reading this know where I can find this passage? The reason why Bobby and Jackie had him cremated (supposedly) was because they didn't want his body exhumed in the future. Do you know where I may have read this? Thanks, Kathy C

Hi, Greg. I remember how much time I spent making your forum #1by typing it into the address box. At one point I think I had you #1 everywhere, even on the little search engines. And I would leave your website on for long periods of time in an effort to help. Remember? Kathy C

Kathy: Do you have an idea how much of our prosperity comes from overseas? We give too much to other countries. And lives too. How long will the war continue? Kennedy said we weren't other countries baby sitters. Countries should be allowed to make their own decision about how their country is run.

Dear Douglas, I enjoyed that video. I really got into it. But she was wrong about the throat shot. I don't think it was a waste of time. It gets people to think and read about John F. Kennedy and what happened to him. Kathy C

Jon, don't get rid of Hit List. I'm mentioned in Chap.6 re Karyn Kupcinet. As for who did it, the butler, as usual. Kathy C

Trump said "probably alone." He's playing it safe on that issue. What can he do about it? Any of us?. Kennedy was killed 51 years ago. There's nothing he can do about it. So he plays it safe. I didn't like hearing about his statement and I know Jesse Ventura won't be his VP. Guess what: I'm still voting for Trump. Keep the money in this country, not overseas. Kathy C

"Do you believe that Karen [sic] Kupcinet was part of the phone call made from Ventura, or may have inadvertantly crossed lines with another caller?" Karyn Kupcinet had nothing to do with the Oxnard Call. However, Irv Kupcinet, her father, and the most popular man in Chicago and elsewhere, reached by phone the Palm Springs home of a mobster, Paul Dorfman very soon after Ruby shot Oswald. Dorfman may have been taken aback at Kup's tenacious way of finding him so fast. Coincidentally, Karyn and 3 other friends went to Palm Springs that Friday afternoon to get away from the Assassination. They stayed the whole weekend. Could it be that Dorfman saw her or ran into her and having spoken to her father thought of a way to keep Kup away from investigating the Chicago angle (Ruby) to the Assassination. Karyn died early Thanksgiving, 6 days after Kennedy was killed. Her death is believed to be a murder. Nothing was taken except 100 methamphetamine pills, a prescription she had filled 2 days earlier. The apartment was in disarray. And the Coroner was a pervert. This information is in a new book called "Hit List" by Richard Belzer and David Wayne about the dead witnesses after Kennedy's death. They agreed with my conclusion. She was killed to shut up Irv Kupcinet, columnist and pioneer talk show host. I am told that he never wrote about the Assassination again, until the movie JFK came out. The original script had Karyn Kupcinet as a character. They chose instead to Rose Cheramie, who definitely had foreknowledge of the Assassination. It still may have unnerved Irv. Kathy C

I can add to the Judy Campbell saga. In the spring of 1961 Jerry Lewis was making a film called "Ladies Man." In the cast was Karyn Kupcinet. Anyway, the chief hairdresser was married to gossip columnist John Austin whom I knew. Jerry brought Judy Campbell to the set. Mrs. Austin said, we all knew what was going on. Jerry told people that he needed her because they were writing a book on some weird subject matter. But it didn't fool anyone. Judy was from Chicago and would have recognized Karyn Kupcinet, who was a star in Chicago. So when Karyn was murdered 6 days after President Kennedy and not found for 3 days, it really shook Chicago. I often wonder if Judy and Karyn ever talked together. 1500 mourners turned out for her funeral. Kathy C

I'm sorry. It was taken on Nov. 27, 1963. Dealy Plaza. I think they were trying to find where the shooters were compared to where Kennedy was on the 22nd.

Robert doesn't support the man killed by Ruby. This man was not his brother. Over the years Robert has never visited his 2 "nieces" because they aren't his nieces. The best research would be for someone to obtain Robert's DNA and compare it to the one of the nieces. Only that. Kathy C

Wasn't it one of the claims the driver, Greer, made for his non-action that he "Didn't want to drive President Kennedy through an ambush? Kathy C

For what it's worth, Rich Dellarosa told me Greer pulled the car to the left and stopped. That was his opinion. I don't know what he based it on. Kathy C

This is a small picture. If you magnify the car, it looks like George Bush, the father, sitting on the car on the right holding a camera... Kathy C

David's post almost sounds like a suicide note. Kathy C

I think of 2 names. Both hated black people and both could be related to the "other" film. H.L. Hunt, who at the time was the wealthiest man in the world. I think he could have delegated and paid well to some shooters to kill Kennedy. And since he couldn't be there in Dealey Plaza, he had a professional film made of it. Where the cameraman was, I don't know. Hunt was a rabid John Bircher. The other name is Howard Hughes. He despised black people. He was close to Maheu, a somewhat shady character, and he could pay well for the Assassination. Having to have been in the film industry, Hughes might have known a good cameraman who would film JFK in Dealey Plaza. Apparently, there was no soundtrack to the film. I don't know why. We could not hear the shots. Maheu - Howard Hughes' alter ego Kathy C

I am always thankful to you, due to your research into the Oxnard call. Kathy C

I read on the Internet that George H.W.Bush was the adopted son of Prescott Bush. And that Bush's real father was a nazi who escaaped Germany with American help. There is absolutely no resemblance between George H.W. Bush and Prescott Bush. I am voting for Donald Trump. Especially after that evil one we have today who wants to bring us to the New World Order. Why can't we get rid of that guy? How much has to happen? Kathy C

Who would have the idea to kill Kennedy and outsource it? In Texas, besides the oil barons, lived H.L. Hunt, the richest man in the world at that time. Hunt was a John Bircher. Marches and riots were going on for Civil Rights. This would be his motive to have Kennedy killed. Also, since he couldn't be in Dealey Plaza himself, he wanted a film of it. Where was the camera? That's the question that nags at me. In some films it doesn't look like Zapruder was shooting at all. Someone deceased who saw the "other" film said it was beautifully photographed, professional, of Hollywood quality, and also much gorier. Nothing about the Zapruder film seems professional. Though the many things missing shows a lot of tinkering; understatement. Was H.L. Hunt behind it? Then I'm thinking about another wealthy man, one who hated black people. I don't think anyone's brought this name up in a long time: Howard Hughes. Howard Hughes was crazy. He certainly would have hated Kennedy and he had the money to pay for Kennedy's murder on color film. Since he was once involved in the movies, he may have known some cameraman who could film it and Hughes would pay him good money. I don't know if Hughes and Hunt knew each other. But either man would have a lot of pull. The Joint Chiefs of Staff, the military men hated Kennedy. The Cuban Exiles hated him. There were many people who wanted him dead. But who could afford it? Who hated him so much? Who could carry it out? Kathy C