David Andrews

Time for a thorough investigation of Donald Nixon's involvement with brother Richard's associates and finances.

So far, I like the nephew better than the grandson.

Needs to feel liked, because he can't get a job with his Uncle John anymore.

http://somesecretsforyou.blogspot.com/ ...And the somesecretsforyou blog brings us back around to Permindex players such as Louis Mortimer Bloomfield and Ferenc Nagy, all of whom are much discussed in the past threads of this Forum, threads that should be reviewed by anyone going for the Euro angle on the assassination.

Thanks, Steve - will check those out when have more time.

Osborne an intentional, deniable confusion for the name Oswald, by Oswald? Still, the idea may have been taken from a real association.

Again - consider that Dinkin may have had unknown collaborators within the Army.

The Osborne source being Michael Eddowes, who sponsored the Oswald exhumation, and about whom the Soviet agent rumor has also been floated.

104-10067-10403: LIST OF DOCUMENTS Between November 7-12, 1963, several documents are included in a CIA-created list of Oswald-related documents. Uncertain why these documents are included, other than story that Eugene Dinkin gave some kind of warning about the assassination during his assignment in Western Europe. To summarize the statements on the list: CIA cable from Bern, Switzerland forwards info on Eugene Dinkin; CIA cable from Berlin, West Germany, forwards info on Michael K. Bowers; LCHARVEST - CIA cable from Berlin, West Germany; CIA cable from Bern, Switzerland, forwarding info on possibility someone using name of Michael K. Bowers; cable from Bern, Switzerland, forwarding info that Eugene Dinkin returned to military custody. Oswald 201 File, Vol 1, Folder 2 11/8/63 CIA cable from Bern, FOIA 20-532: Unredacted portion states "Chief of Station comment: Requested check whether Bowers actually assigned USASA Berlin and whether present Suiise on leave." The response was: "Bowers is assigned USASA Berlin. Is on duty at present. No leave presently at all." https://www.maryferrell.org/php/cryptdb.php?id=LCHARVEST

Why not, Paul? - 9/11 was outsourced.

Which was?

Here's a psychological set for us all, from online feature story headlines: "8 Most Bizarre, Outlandish Details from New JFK Files" -- Business Insider "Strippers, Surveillance and Assassination Plots: The Wildest JFK Files" - Washington Post From his secluded retirement, former Army private Eugene Dinkin recognized mainstream media slurs on the JFK assassination investigation, and again became a worried man... I'm kidding, but I'm not joking.

I've been recommending :Libra on this Forum for years. People hold prejudices ("judgments before the facts") against it because it's a novel, and because they mistakenly believe it's an anti-conspiracy, lone-nut treatise, which it is not. Libra does not comprehend everything about Oswald or the assassination, but it is a work of incredible atmosphere about the Oswald years, and, not incidentally, great commentary about assassination research and the pervasiveness of the assassination in American culture. If any aspects of the assassination or the Oswald life have felt nightmarish to you - here are those nightmares on the page. An enviable achievement, whatever complaints its lapses may provoke. Go ye and be provoked.

I just don't get the feeling that the CIA players told the Military players what to do... but vice versa. Any significance to Bill Kelly's "Valkyrie Plot" theory, in that JFK had given covert ops responsibilities to the military?

Not to muddy things, but didn't Richard Case Nagell claim that he met Oswald in Mexico prior to the fall 1963 visit memorialized in the Warren Report? See the Russell book.

The Cambridge call was well known without the CIA memo, and is discussed in a past Forum thread. Who's still alive? Add Wesley Buell Frazier, and also a list of less visible anti-Castro Cubans.

I hope I'm wrong, but why would the documents release be anything but a sanitized put-up job? With the main take-away for the press being that there was a "benign cover-up."

So, Ramfis as bagman, though some of that money had to be his. And under LBJ he didn't get the long-term outcome he wanted, yet he opened himself to exposure under Hemming's Law, as paraphrased above. The corollary to Hemming's Law is Hemming's other statement that he found himself at meetings where he refused money offered for JFK's assassination. I don't think these situations exclude each other or that one is a fabrication. I suspect there were Agency-approved donors, and others that would not be enfranchised.

Strictly on the topic of Ramfis Trujillo, his father's assassination was a product of the Eisenhower administration and abetted by our CIA. Was Ramfis hoping to be installed in power in Santo Domingo for backing an assassination plot against Ike's successor that our intel services already had in motion? In other words, backing JFK's assassination in order to curry favor with his father's killers, and not out of any direct revenge against Kennedy? Or did Ramfis have reason to blame JFK? Remember one of Hemming's more reliable lines (paraphrase): a lot of people threw money at the JFK assassination, and that lot could be controlled afterward by the threat of prosecution hanging over their heads. Why should Ramfis Trujillo be immune, or above that ilk?

Interesting how the numbers only approach parity among college graduates. I wonder if the old explanations for that still hold water, or grads just hope to hell that they do.

Jim - can you post the cut demonstrations, just for argument's sake?

To address the posts above, I think, yes, that it is good to stay "a little careful" of the Dinkin legend, as it is to stay careful of that of Richard Case Nagell. It's somewhat difficult to see how Dinkin could have deduced the assassination date or the "communist or negro" assassin from the type of info in the one "demonstration" offered in the Redmond article. Reproducing more of Dinkin's demonstrations would have been helpful, on several levels. I'm wondering if Dinkin didn't spot clues from several sources - some closer to the surface, such as Stars and Stripes rhetoric, and some from clandestine traffic. Some may quibble about Dinkin's clearances or skills - but is It possible that Dinkin did not work alone, and reported intelligence gained from other servicemen?

Remember that concepts related to "psychological sets" weren't unknown or outré in the period. In 1957, a journalist named Vance Packard published The Hidden Persuaders, a best-seller exposing the use of "subliminal persuasion" in advertising. It inspired many knock-off books and articles, and was as influential in the later development of media as it was titillating to the public (which began to spot nude figures and the word sex hidden in liquor and cigarette ads). By the Kennedy years, being hip to the technique was a part of pop culture. Wiki: "In The Hidden Persuaders [...] Packard explores the use of consumer motivational research and other psychological techniques, including depth psychology and subliminal tactics, by advertisers to manipulate expectations and induce desire for products, particularly in the American postwar era. [...] The book also explores the manipulative techniques of promoting politicians to the electorate. Additionally, the book questions the morality of using these techniques."

Harriman and Lodge got Diem killed. The Rockefellers were their patrons. Allen Dulles had worked for the gang through Sullivan & Cromwell. Hunt, Helms and Phillips were Dulles' protégés. Does the Better Business Bureau boast such a lineage?

David Atlee Phillips. William Harvey. Richard Helms. Allen Dulles. Those are factional characters.