Paul Brancato

Ed - before I dig into your Permindex etc info I want to say I’m glad you are posting here.

You have no basis for concluding that whatever they were thinking of using wasn’t dangerous to humans.

Kirk - what post are you responding to? William? Don’t see it. Have you listened to RFK Jr say the Covid virus was engineered to spare Jews and Chinese? Please point me to it.

Thanks for pointing that out William

Allen - how does using chemical agents to promote crop failures not constitute a chemical attack against the Cuban citizenry? You’re grasping at straws. Put yourself in the field, or at the dinner table. Imagine how many people worked on those farms? This wasn’t agribusiness as we know it now. And if it was implemented, how many Cubans went hungry as a result? What about the farm animals?

Greg - do read Albarelli’s A Terrible Mistake. The chapters on Lafitte and on George Hunter White are especially interesting and well researched, and written before any diaries surfaced. Leslie - the ‘we’ in we know so little about includes me and probably everyone else reading this other than you and Robert, who is continuing his deep dive into all the characters mentioned in Coup and in the diaries, and into many other dark recesses. I know you have no doubts about the authenticity of the Lafitte diaries, but please understand that the rest of us wonder about various aspects of it including handwriting analysis, possible multiple authors, and exactly what the notes represent. But we continue to examine the names therein. You knew Hank better than anyone, and put your lifeblood into getting his work published, and continue to delve into the clues in the diaries So I understand how very important this is to you, how you feel attacked when someone has questions. Can you let the questions exist without viewing them as a salvo in a turf war for truth? We all care, those of us reading this, how we got here in 2023, including Greg. I hope he takes me up on reading Hank’s earlier work and doesn’t just rely on Time magazine for a bio of this most interesting figure in history.

Mockingbird - thanks. My understanding, though I don’t recall why I know this, is that CIA targeted the left and liberal media because the conservatives were already on their side. I wonder if anyone remembers the NYT mea culpa article from around 2004 listing all the things they got wrong in their coverage leading up to the 2003 Iraq invasion. I only saw it recently, as I tuned them out when they joined the propaganda push for War. WMD’s, aluminum tubes, uranium from Africa, all of it - they apologized. Well, too little too late.

I mentioned Lafitte in conjunction with Clay Shaw, Permindex member.

Maybe with republicans, but the democrats are crucifying him

I couldn’t possibly agree more.

Robert - could you fill in any detail on Droller in Taiwan?

William - very simply, you are confusing ordinary people, most of whom are very underprivileged and all too easy to manipulate, with corrupt political manipulators. But it is also necessary, when you do hold power, to talk to your enemies and try to see things through their eyes from their points of view. You must think I’m losing my mind, or stupid. You don’t, ever, have to cave on your principles. You do need, always, to be a decent human being. The political class is engaged in a struggle, and both are being manipulated by hidden hands. Nothing new in that, been going on for millennia. The whole point of Trump’s presidency was to divide and conquer. From that election forward it’s been Civil War. But not in families, not among friends, who can disagree and still find reasons to love and respect one another. This battle isn’t for the hearts and minds of the American people. That’s a myth, and the issues that seem to divide us were settled by the vast majority of folks on all sides long ago. The battle is for control of everyone, you and your Trumper cousins. We need to break this stranglehold in which both political parties participate. Anyone but Trump is not nearly good enough. The principles you espouse, which I believe in too, will never come to pass unless we see through the manipulators smokescreens. The question for you is how do Democrats convince the Trump voter to switch? By hating Trump? Doesn’t work my friend. It’s by presenting a real alternative, one that isn’t hypocritical and corrupt. Do you honestly think that the Democratic Party isn’t corrupt? How can they hope to change hearts and minds and bring about a fairer, more just, more egalitarian, freer, society, the one they say they espouse?

I think you are at least partly right. Certainly the last sentence. But also the notion widely held on either side that the other is so entrenched and so wrong about everything that the only strategy left is winner take all. I happen to think that the strategy of Trump and the current Republicans on his team, and in general the Republican battle plan since Newt Gingrich, is to restrict as much as possible multiculturalism by going after voting rights, and to gain control of local governments and school boards towards the same ends, and towards restricting what kids are taught in school, and what rights women have towards their pregnancies. There is more to it of course - I’m summarizing. But to your point, this does not justify a tit for tat response. It would be far more productive to get out of the liberal/progressive bubble and talk to the people who vote for the other party. This is what RFK Jr has been up to for many years, and he gets criticized for it unjustly. People who vote for Trump, or other Republican candidates, are not deplorable. Racists, antisemites - misled and undereducated for the most part. Same for people who fall for illogical and too all encompassing conspiracy theories. By not trying to engage with them, meaning listening with open minds and hearts to their complaints, Democrats shoot themselves in their collective feet, and become the elite snobs they say we are. And look at the gang up against RFK Jr? I presume it was Republicans that asked him to testify today? Todays Democrats are making me sick, and this is while agreeing with their platform in almost all instances. If they think they are strengthening their electoral position by promoting censorship and partisanship in the extreme I think they are in for an incredible shock.

Thanks for the update. Why hide his witness statements? Whoever this Perdomo is, (and I’m inclined to think as you do that it’s not the same Perdomo, mostly from photo comparisons) if his witness statements are secret that is indeed troubling and demands explanation.

So much for Operation Bloodstone. ok - Prouty. This is for all of us, Michael, William on two sides, others, and Jim D. I am bothered by Prouty’s latter day penchant for the far right. But I don’t think speaking at Liberty Lobby events or to Holocaust deniers is an offense in and of itself. So how about this? Can one side or another provide complete transcripts of what Prouty actually said on air or in person on one or more of these occasions? It does, most certainly, matter what he said, much more than who he said it to.

Robert - that is really tremendous research, pulling all this together and bringing in the rather mysterious Permindex. No wonder the goons stopped Garrison. Funny - last night I was thinking about Permindex - yet again, as this comes up often in my forever seeking brain. It was Jim D that first opened that door for me too, and we have had numerous exchanges on the forum, most recently with the Italian researcher Metta. This all becomes important because of Clay Shaw. Btw didn’t Pierre Lafitte later work for Shaw as a chef? During which time he helped raid Garrison’s files? I can only imagine WHICH files they searched for and removed. Seems obvious now that it wasn’t random.

Last sentence - ain’t that the truth? I have one friend who found the stomach after listening to me rant and finally reading JFK and the Unspeakable. No one else read anything, not even the trading cards I worked so hard on.

Small consolation. NYT, WAPO, CNN, Senate, most of the House, am I leaving anything out? Remember the UN weapons inspectors asking the coalition not to proceed because they were finally making very good progress, enough so that anyone looking closely behind the propaganda could see there were no wmd’s? Remember the mobilization against the war, largest in US history? We we right, they were wrong, the results have been devastating.

Yes William - where are those Democrats? And why aren’t they speaking up? Can we just look at that as some form of ignorance? I can’t. I think it’s par for the 60 years course. It’s the Democrats fault that we never got to the bottom of this. And we know the CIA targeted the left or liberal media for their infiltration a la whatever that operation was (is) called. I heard someone from Ukraine today on the radio expressing total consternation about how much in lockstep the US media was when discussing the neo Nazi element in the Ukraine military, unlike before the invasion.o And in lockstep against RFK Jr. CA even has a petition floating around to ban him from running as a Democrat in the Ca primaries. Imagine that? What has the Democratic Party become? Well, given your point, to some extent what they always were, referring to the holders of power within that establishment . Remember when the League of Women Voters ran Democratic election debates? Until the D party took it away? Remember the lock step around the Iraq war, Donahue being fired from his most popular tv talk show? This is no Democracy.

That is the question. tom - did you see my note about Garrison files being destroyed? Let’s wait and see if Jim D has anything to add on that, and on any references he may have seen in the Garrison files that survived. Again, wasn’t Pierre Lafitte involved in that destruction of Garrison files?

Ben - now that you have labelled all the shenanigans, something many of us agree with, let’s get back to the historical topic itself. I am truly shocked at the info John Loftus provides in ‘The Secret War Against the Jews’. I haven’t finished the book, but so far, and from other books Loftus wrote, I don’t think I’ll be disappointed in the remainder of the book. Do not confuse this author with another - John W. Loftus. This author was a former prosecutor for the US Justice Department’s Nazi hunting unit.

Ben - if you are referring to Biden, let’s add Trump to that moniker.

Thank you David Josephs. there are two threads in which some of the same info is being discussed. I’m going to rewrite what I posted for Jim D on that other thread here. Jim - Robert isn’t using Dipino and Bringuier as sources. He is using Raymond Rocca, who was the task force commander for the ‘Garrison Group’. Someone in that group, working for Rocca, sends him the info identifying the unnamed Nazi in Mexico City. It wasn’t either Dipino or Bringuier - they just said he was a Nazi working in Mexico City. This looks a lot different to me than how you are describing it. Why would Dipino bring this to Rocca’s attention? I would guess it’s because they are worried about its implications, and trying to help Rocca, not smear Garrison. David - It looks like you and i are on the same page. Jim D - I’ve reposted this here. I cannot understand why you want to dismiss it, and denigrate Robert, which you have done a few times now. If you disagree with the general thesis that Robert seems to be developing, it would serve all of us well if you would argue your case by sharing your own conclusions about possible Nazi involvement. I’ll repeat what I said in an earlier post - collaboration is called for, not competition. Reading between the lines I gather that you, probably more familiar with Garrison’s files than anyone else, have not found anything Garrison himself or his staff wrote that indicates he was pursuing a Nazi in MC, or any other Nazis. If that’s the case, I’ll ask you how many of Garrisons files were destroyed before researchers got ahold of them? Btw if I’m not mistaken Pierre Lafitte was one of the men who destroyed Garrison files.

Did anyone here listen to the interview where he supposedly said what got you all so riled up? Yes or no?

Jeff - for a moment leaving out Bloodstone, what was Prouty doing from say 1954 to 1962? Weren’t there like 10 CIA military overthrows of elected governments during those years? Wasn’t he running covert ops for the Pentagon, or something like that? I don’t feel up to looking at past posts to determine his official title, but it seems to me he was part of that nexus.