Steve Thomas

James,

Steve,

I'm not sure if that is Vassieux but he did claim Souetre was a close friend. Here is a better quality and uncropped version of that photograph.

James

Thank you.

I sent him an email asking him if that was him in the picture and when and where it was taken.

If he responds, I'll let you know.

Steve Thomas

James,

IMO, Sarti was disinformation with no connection to Laos. Same with the other Corsicans even though it seems Mertz/Souetre/Roux was in Dallas.

James

This has intrigued me from the first time I saw it.

The man circled on the right supposedly is Jean Rene Souetre.

I think I just accidentally discovered who the other man in the photo on the right who is in a military uniform.

I think his name is Jacques Vassieux.

Go here:

http://jacques.vassieux.free.fr/modules/my...hoto.php?lid=18

Look at the photo and compare it to the man in the top right of the web page.

What do you think?

Steve Thomas

James,

James Richards said:

IMO, Sarti was disinformation with no connection to Laos. Same with the other Corsicans even though it seems Mertz/Souetre/Roux was in Dallas.

James

This has intrigued me from the first time I saw it.

The man circled on the right supposedly is Jean Rene Souetre.

The picture on the left is cropped from one of the evidence documents ( I don't remember if it was the Warren Hearings, or First Day Evidence or what) of a picture of the alleged assassination rifle. Leaning on the wall behind the rifle is what appears to be a police artist sketch.

I think the two pictures are remarkably similar.

I also think that someone in the DPD was trying to tell us something.

Steve Thomas

Antti,

In my opinion it is entirely possible that the shooter could have been a foreigner, but I suspect there'd be enough skilled and able shooters on the US side of the Atlantric as well, in other words I didn't understand why these shooters needed to be imported, as per the Corsican theory.

From William Harvey’s handwritten notes on setting up the ZR/Rifle Program

From ajweberman’s Coup d’etat in America Nodule 0

http://www.weberman.com/nodules/nodule0.htm

8. Use nobody who has never dealt with criminals; otherwise will not be

aware of pitfalls or consider factors such as freedom to travel, wanted

lists, etc. Exclude organization criminals, those with record of

arrests, those who have engaged in several types of crime. Corsicans

recommended. Sicilians lead to Mafia.

Steve Thomas

J.,

Mr. Johnston asserted that when he arraigned Oswald, the suspect came under Dallas County jurisdiction and should have been transferred to the county jail and not returned to the city jail.

"My dad always said that had they transferred Oswald in the middle of the night – as soon as he had been arraigned – no one would have known any better and no one would have been able to get to him," Thomas Johnston said.

I ran across that the other day. Johnston told the Warren Commission that in both arraignments, Oswald was remanded to the custody of the Dallas County Sheriff's Department.

What was he still doing in the hands of the Dallas City Police Department 48 hours later?

Steve Thomas

James,

The more interesting arrest that day did not get a lot of publicity. Robert Hatfield was chaged with spitting on Stevenson and then spitting on the arresting officer.

Since your post, I've been looking into Robert E. Hatfield.

On May 21, 1964 he was convicted of this incident and fined $200.00

His lawyer was Howard P. ("Pete") White.

White's name, address and phone number appears in Ruby's/Crafard's notebook.

One source I read said that White had been getting Ruby off on various charges since 1955.

According to Mary Ferrell's database, another of White's clients?

John Thomas Masen.

WHITE FIRST HOWARD MID/AKA P. ("PETE")

4401 Beverly Dr., Dallas, TX; (o) 631 Fidelity Union Life Bldg., Dallas,

TX 'PHONE (o) (214) RI 1-1295

WC Vol 19, p. 73; CD 4, pp. 485, 503; HSCA Vol 9, p. 1099; FBI

124-10035-10168, p. 6

Wife: Margaret B. White. Attorney. Name in Larry Crafard's notebook.

Attorney for John Thomas Masen. White's daughter Maury said Pete White

was a cousin of Angus Wynne. Had Carousel Club pass #208. Mrs. Cuba

Lee Glick Alexander asked White to handle her divorce from William

Alexander, alleging Alexander was a "mental case."

Steve Thomas

James,

The more interesting arrest that day did not get a lot of publicity. Robert Hatfield was chaged with spitting on Stevenson and then spitting on the arresting officer.

Hatfield was another Walker supporter, a member of the John B. Hood camp, Sons of the Confederate Veterans and had loose ties to the Cubans in Dallas (claiming it was conversations with them that made him angry which is why he spat at Stevenson).

James

Thanks for the info on Hatfield. In Bernice's article, she wrote:

"The man who spat on him was a college student, Robert Hatfield of Irving"

One interesting thing, Warren Commission Document #320 is a memo from SS Agent Rowley. On page 162 of that Report there is a newspaper article from October 27, 1963 - I can't make out which paper - concerning the Stevenson incident.

In the article, Bobbie Joiner said there was no preplanning for Stevenson incident, but that, “some of the signs used were stored at former Major General Edwin A. Walker’s headquarters on Turtle Creek Blvd.”

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...p;relPageId=162

This was the same incident that Larry Schmidt took credit for in one of his letters to Bernard Weissman.

Schmidt told Weissman that he had recruited 10 or 12 students from one of the local Dallas colleges. I wonder if Hatfield was one of those students.

You wrote:

"Hatfield was another Walker supporter, a member of the John B. Hood camp, Sons of the Confederate Veterans and had loose ties to the Cubans in Dallas (claiming it was conversations with them that made him angry which is why he spat at Stevenson)."

I wonder where and when these conversations took place.

On page 6 of Wallace Heitman’s April 29 Report, right in the middle of a discussion about the Cubans in Garland, he says that his source said that (blank) and (blank) had told him that they had attended the meeting at the Dallas Municipal Auditorium in October, 1963 where Adlai Stevenson had given a speech and that they had worn placards outside the Auditorium which were anti-Stevenson in context and that they had lived at that address before he (Heitman’s source) had moved in.

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...p;relPageId=215

Steve Thomas

J.,

Suggested interpretation: “I have Judge Johnston here with (me at ) Parkland. Was there just one (victim) from the shooting from the Presid… party?”

One possible inference from this is that Judge Johnston was wearing more than one hat that day.

I believe this is Justice of the Peace, David Johnston.

Here is what he told the Warren Commission:

"I was attending the luncheon, when one of the sergeants of the Dallas Police Department came to my table and asked me to please come with him, and I was then informed of what had happened, and was asked to go immediately to Parkland Hospital, and upon arriving there found Judge Theron Ward, the justice of the peace, Precinct 3, from Garland, handling the inquest on President Kennedy. They did not know Judge Ward and that's the reason they had called me, not knowing he was already there."

Johnston would have an interesting story to tell.

He signed the search warrant for 1026 N. Beckley and participated in its search.

He was present for the midnight press conference.

He presided over Oswald's arraignment at 7:05 and the alleged arraignment at 1:30 on the morning of the 23rd.

He was certainly in the thick of things.

Steve Thomas

Ron,

Luis Echiverria, acting Secretary of the Gobernacion personally asked COS 23 Nov for all information on FNU Rodriguez Molina. Said heard on radio Rodriguez picked up in connection with assassination and that he Mexican.

Thanks for your reply.

On doing further research, I think the Rodriguez Molina in question probably refers to Joe Rodriguez Molina of the GI Forum fame.

There is a person on the alt.conpiracy.jfk newsgroup who thinks that more than one Molina was picked up that day.

Steve Thomas

From Oswald's 201 File 104-10015-10127 p. 2

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...amp;relPageId=1

From Mexico City:

Luis Echiverria, acting Secretary of the Gobernacion personally asked COS 23 Nov for all information on FNU Rodriguez Molina. Said heard on radio Rodriguez picked up in connection with assassination and that he Mexican.

Steve Thomas

Sorry, the spelling should be Echeverria.

CIA’s Segregated Collection 10067-10328 p. 2

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...amp;relPageId=2

Handwritten memo from Win Scott.

“I advised L. Echeverria later that the Rodriguez Molina arrested in Dallas had nothing to do w/ Kennedy assassination. S.

Steve Thomas

In 1975, Elizabeth Cole told the FBI that in the first week of November, 1963 she attended a Foreign Students Convention in New Jersey.

While there, she overheard a telephone conversation between a Cuban student and an unknown third party. In the phone conversation, the Cuban student related that JFK was going to be assassinated. The date of the assassination, the City of Dallas and a book company were also mentioned.

It is alleged that the name of the Cuban student overheard by Miss Cole has the same last name as that of a Cuban picked up and released in Dallas on 11/22/63.

See here:

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...p;relPageId=112

Steve Thomas

From Oswald's 201 File 104-10015-10127 p. 2

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...amp;relPageId=1

From Mexico City:

Luis Echiverria, acting Secretary of the Gobernacion personally asked COS 23 Nov for all information on FNU Rodriguez Molina. Said heard on radio Rodriguez picked up in connection with assassination and that he Mexican.

Steve Thomas

Chuck,

I can understand a Father being concerned about new shoes being provided for a child, however,

I hardly believe that this would have been a priority for Oswald under his circumstances.

I always thought that Oswald's concern for his daughter's shoes, and the $170.00 he left on the dresser to pay for them mitigated in Oswald's favor.

Steve Thomas

J,

The Dallas Police radio, Channel 2, also carried the story

(2:40 p.m.): “One of the Secret Service men on the field—Elm and Houston, said

that it came over his Teletype that one of the Secret Service men had been

killed.”

http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk...Vol23_0484a.htm

At approximately 2:37pm, Sergeant R.E. Dugger (18) radios in on Channel 2:

“I have Judge Johnston here with (illegible) Parkland. Was there just one (illegible) from the shooting from the Presid… party?”

The following exchange takes place:

Dispatcher (illegible) I had on it 18

Dispatcher: 18, There were some more injured, but I don’t know who they were, or how severe.

Dugger: I didn’t read you. You know anything about an injured Secret Service Agent?

Dispatcher: No, I do not. There were some more injured, but I don’t know who they were.

Patrolman J.W. Brooks (174): One of the Secret Service men on the field – Elm and Houston; said that it came over his teletype that one of the Secret Service men had been killed.

Dispatcher: Well, 10-4. I don’t have that information.

Dugger: I believe this is going to be incorrect. He’s not at Parkland. Can you have someone canvas the major hospitals please?

Garbled

Patrolman L.H. Marshall (139): I have a man out here that doesn’t know anything about that.

Vince Palamara alt.conspiracy.jfk 11/26/03

“One final clue to both the mystery of the "dead" agent and the

"unknown agent" in Dealey Plaza on November 22 may come from the statements of former Dallas agent Robert A. Steuart, as revealed in Bill Sloan's 1993 work, JFK--Breaking the Silence (pp 1-5). Although the agent who spoke to Sloan was unnamed in the book, Sloan confirmed to me the agent's identity based on my firm conviction

that this agent HAD to have been Steuart. Why? Because, as I told Sloan, the agent used the identical language with me during my two "attempted" interviews with him in 1992 and 1993; in any event, Sloan confirmed my suspicions. So, just what did Steuart say to Sloan (and me)? Sworn to absolute secrecy about the "Kennedy thing," Steuart went on to say, "I can't talk about it...There are so many things I could tell you, but I just can't... I can't tell you anything... I'd like to, but I can't.... It was a very heavy deal, and they would

know. Someone would know. It's...too dangerous, even now."

Needless to say, more work is being done on these leads.”

Steuart had been stationed at the Trade Mart and gone to Parkland Hospital following the assassination. In his official Report, Steuart wrote, “After the President’s death was announced, I returned to the Dallas District Office and took over duties at the telephone, to correlate activities of other agents.”64. There is the possibility that Steuart might not have remained at the Dallas District Office. In his case report on Lee Harvey Oswald, Captain Fritz has the following notation, “Detective C.N. Dhority #476 “Made copies of defendant’s identification for Mr. Stewart of Secret Service. Prepared case report.”65. I believe that Fritz meant Steuart. Dhority makes no mention of this in his after-action report.

64. Report from Robert A. Steuart. Letter from the Secret Service to the Commission, dated June 11, 1964, with attached statements of Secret Service personnel, named below. Warren Commission Hearings and Exhibits, volume XVIII, p. 797, Commission Exhibit 1024, as cited in the History Matters Archive, http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk...Vol18_0406a.htm

65. Case Report, by J. W. Fritz. Case report on Lee Harvey Oswald includes officers as

witnesses. Dallas Police Archives Box 15, Folder# 1, Item# 92: as cited in the City of Dallas Archives – JFK Collection, http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/box15.htm

Steve Thomas

Chuck,

Can anyone in the Dallas area find out if there is actually a house at 404 e. 9th st.?

404 E. Ninth St. appears to be an apartment complex.

http://www.whitepages.com/10867/search/Rep...664&lower=1

Steve Thomas

Gil,

It is also my opinion, that this Major could likely be the misidentified "dead secret service agent" that vanished into history.

I do not know if these are related, but...

In a statement written by Parkland Hospital RN Triage nurse, Bertha Lozano, she wrote that on Friday afternoon after the President had arrived and after the little boy with the cut chin had arrived, "A technician came to the desk and asked me to expect a private patient who was bleeding." She also wrote, "Blood technicians came to ask me who "Mr. X" was who did not have an ER number. Hematology also came with the same problem and was told the same thing."

No information about what the Blood Technicians and Hematology were told.

Price Exhibit 20 in 21H214

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...p;relPageId=238

Steve Thomas

New to me anyway.

Keotag

searches blogs and social networking sites like myspace.

http://www.keotag.com

Steve Thomas

Mark,

One of the episodes of Turner's 'The men who killed Kennedy' is called 'The Witnesses'. In this episode, former DPD Officer LC Graves states:

"Chief Curry did not have the final say on how LHO was transferred--it came from his superior which was the City Manager at that time, so again, we knew better than to transfer him under those conditions but we didn't have any choice".

Just on a little side note, for another reason I was reading the WC testimony of Justice of the Peace David Johnson.

In both arraignments of Oswald, one at 7:10 for the killing of Tippit, and the second supposed arraignment for the killing of JFK at 1:35, Oswald was informed of the charges against him and "remanded to the custody of the Dallas County Sheriff."

Why was he still in the hands of the Dallas City Police Department two days later?

Steve Thomas

Chuck,

When you take into consideration Win Scott's letter, to a J. C., in which he states that the man in the photos taken outside the Embassy is a man "known to him (JC), it seems clear that "Oswald" was well known to the various intel groups?

I believe the J.C. in question was Colonel J. C. King, Chief, WH Division, which makes it even more interesting.

Steve Thomas

Thomas,

[ from what I've read, the SGA was a rather loosely-organized group and it was often sat-in-on and contributed-to by various "intelligence services" and other "movers and shakers," and I guess if someone sat in on and contributed to the SGA on a fairly regular basis, then they could, by definition, be considered a member of the SGA, based on the broad definition of "member."

--Thomas

From Foreign Relations of the United States, 1964-1968, vol. XII, Western Europe, pp. XXXI-XXXV, April 16, 2001.

http://www.fas.org/sgp/advisory/state/covert.html

Notice the line that says, "Membership varied..."

By the end of the Eisenhower administration, this group, which became known as the "NSC 5412/2 Special Group" or simply "Special Group," emerged as the executive body to review and approve covert action programs initiated by the CIA. The membership of the Special Group varied depending upon the situation faced. Meetings were infrequent until 1959 when weekly meetings began to be held. Neither the CIA nor the Special Group adopted fixed criteria for bringing projects before the group; initiative remained with the CIA, as members representing other agencies frequently were unable to judge the feasibility of particular projects.

After the Bay of Pigs failure in April 1961, General Maxwell Taylor reviewed U.S. paramilitary capabilities at President Kennedy's request and submitted a report in June which recommended strengthening high-level direction of covert operations. As a result of the Taylor Report, the Special Group, chaired by the President's Special Assistant for National Security Affairs McGeorge Bundy, and including Deputy Under Secretary of State U. Alexis Johnson, Deputy Secretary of Defense Roswell Gilpatric, Director of Central Intelligence Alien Dulles, and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Lyman Lemnitzer, assumed greater responsibility for planning and reviewing covert operations. Until 1963 the DCI determined whether a ClA-originated project was submitted to the Special Group. In 1963 the Special Group developed general but informal criteria, including risk, possibility of success, potential for exposure, political sensitivity, and cost (a threshold of $25,000 was adopted by the CIA), for determining whether covert action projects were submitted to the Special Group.

From November 1961 to October 1962 a Special Group (Augmented), whose membership was the same as the Special Group plus Attorney General Robert Kennedy and General Taylor (as Chairman), exercised responsibility for Operation Mongoose, a major covert action program aimed at overthrowing the Castro regime in Cuba. When President Kennedy authorized the program in November, he designated Brigadier General Edward G. Lansdale, Assistant for Special Operations to the Secretary of Defense, to act as chief of operations, and Lansdale coordinated the Mongoose activities among the CIA and the Departments of State and Defense. CIA units in Washington and Miami had primary responsibility for implementing Mongoose operations, which included military, sabotage, and political propaganda programs.

Steve Thomas

Thomas,

[ from what I've read, the SGA was a rather loosely-organized group and it was often sat-in-on and contributed-to by various "intelligence services" and other "movers and shakers," and I guess if someone sat in on and contributed to the SGA on a fairly regular basis, then they could, by definition, be considered a member of the SGA, based on the broad definition of "member."

--Thomas

From Foreign Relations of the United States, 1964-1968, vol. XII, Western Europe, pp. XXXI-XXXV, April 16, 2001.

http://www.fas.org/sgp/advisory/state/covert.html

Notice the line that says, "Membership varied..."

By the end of the Eisenhower administration, this group, which became known as the "NSC 5412/2 Special Group" or simply "Special Group," emerged as the executive body to review and approve covert action programs initiated by the CIA. The membership of the Special Group varied depending upon the situation faced. Meetings were infrequent until 1959 when weekly meetings began to be held. Neither the CIA nor the Special Group adopted fixed criteria for bringing projects before the group; initiative remained with the CIA, as members representing other agencies frequently were unable to judge the feasibility of particular projects.

After the Bay of Pigs failure in April 1961, General Maxwell Taylor reviewed U.S. paramilitary capabilities at President Kennedy's request and submitted a report in June which recommended strengthening high-level direction of covert operations. As a result of the Taylor Report, the Special Group, chaired by the President's Special Assistant for National Security Affairs McGeorge Bundy, and including Deputy Under Secretary of State U. Alexis Johnson, Deputy Secretary of Defense Roswell Gilpatric, Director of Central Intelligence Alien Dulles, and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Lyman Lemnitzer, assumed greater responsibility for planning and reviewing covert operations. Until 1963 the DCI determined whether a ClA-originated project was submitted to the Special Group. In 1963 the Special Group developed general but informal criteria, including risk, possibility of success, potential for exposure, political sensitivity, and cost (a threshold of $25,000 was adopted by the CIA), for determining whether covert action projects were submitted to the Special Group.

From November 1961 to October 1962 a Special Group (Augmented), whose membership was the same as the Special Group plus Attorney General Robert Kennedy and General Taylor (as Chairman), exercised responsibility for Operation Mongoose, a major covert action program aimed at overthrowing the Castro regime in Cuba. When President Kennedy authorized the program in November, he designated Brigadier General Edward G. Lansdale, Assistant for Special Operations to the Secretary of Defense, to act as chief of operations, and Lansdale coordinated the Mongoose activities among the CIA and the Departments of State and Defense. CIA units in Washington and Miami had primary responsibility for implementing Mongoose operations, which included military, sabotage, and political propaganda programs.

Steve Thomas

Gil,

Jack Ruby's links to Organized Crime are examined.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaUDGTw6D_A

All of the videos that you have put up recently are listed as private, with no apparent way to make them viewable.

Steve Thomas

Jack,

Milteer was discovered in Houston Street images by Robert Groden

when he was employed by the HSCA in the 70s. It is covered in the

HSCA volumes. Below, from Groden's TKOAP.

Jack

Do you know if anyone was ever able to identify the man the Milteer lookalike was standing next to?

Steve Thomas

Duke,

I have deliberately re-arranged the text of your response.

Hope you don't mind too much.

But, oh: to answer the question, the reason why she was walking down Patton and not Crawford was that she lived at the corner of 9th & Patton, and Crawford was a block away in the wrong direction!

Thank you. It was a puzzlement.

Today I was in the neighborhood, parked my truck and walked it myself at a "normal" pace. It took me ONE minute and 30 seconds, perhaps a little longer, but only by a few seconds. I walked it four times at different paces and it never took me longer than UNDER two minutes, even sauntering like I was watching the birds in the trees, stopping to smell the roses and doing anything but worrying about catching my bus.

It's nice to talk to a fellow researcher who takes the time to "smell the roses"

Thanks again,

Steve Thomas

Question: How many other of these crop duster pilots defected to the U.S. ?

If anyone has any information on other crop dusters, I would appreciate hearing about it.

In the Senate Select Committee files, aka the Church Committee Boxed Files, there is a document numbered 157-10014-10120, dated 1/19/76 from Paul Wallach, entitled “Oswald in New Orleans. (This is on page 2 for those of you who go looking for it).

On page 93 of this document, there is a memo from Dan Dwyer to The Files dated 9/23/75. In this memo, Dwyer describes looking at the Department of Justice Anti-Castro files from the late 1950’s to the early 1970’s.

One of the files that Dwyer examined is dated 1/22/60, entitled Anti-Fidel Castro Activities. The summary of this file reads,

“January 12, 1960, Raul Cross, pilot for Arbana Airlines. The Cuban Government was having thirty pilots trained in Mexico, (using cover that they were being trained as crop dusters). They were using instructors from Chile at $700/month.”

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...mp;relPageId=96

Warren CD# 1085 is a letter from the Director of the FBI to Jay Lee Rankin dated June 11, 1964 with attached memos and reports.

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...amp;relPageId=3

One of the Reports included is a memo from Dallas SA Wallace Heitman dated April 29, 1964. This Report discusses the residents of an address in Garland, Texas and the sighting of a Rambler station wagon parked in front with a bumper sticker that says, “Kill the Kennedy Klan.”

While Heitman’s memo is heavily redacted, other research has revealed the two residents of 806 E. Monica in Garland, TX were Raul Castro and Juan Quintana.

Manuel Rodriguez Orcarberro had revealed that Raul Castro and Juan Quintana were members of Alpha-66 and the SNFE.

For Bill Kelly: In 1963 the former resident of that address was Harold E. Yoder and his wife Rosie… He worked for Collins Radio.

On page 6 of his memo, Heitman says this his source told him that the two unnamed subjects of the memo had been employed by him (the source) for approximately one year. He said they were Cuban citizens and who were trained as duster pilots in Mexico for the Cuban Government and later defected from the Fidel Castro Government and came to the United States.

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...p;relPageId=215

The two subjects were known to be violently anti-Castro and had attended the speech by Adlai Stevenson in Dallas when he got bonked on the head by a picket sign.

The wives of both subjects of Heitman’s memo were Mexican citizens.

One of the two subjects of this memo entered the U.S. illegally by swimming across the Rio Grande at Lightner’s Pump (sp?) about five miles east of Brownsville, TX. He crossed with his friend who was apprehended. Records of the INS revealed to Heitman that the subject had left Cuba in blank, 1960 and went to Mexico, which he left on December 26, 1960.

The INS files reveal that the subject stated that many of the students attending the two airline schools he attended were Communists and Fidel Castro supporters. He named several students (redacted) studying to be air traffic control operators were known Communists.

Just some food for thought: What if Raul Castro and Juan Quintana were double agents, sent to Mexico to ostensibly to train as crop dusters and then told to defect to the U.S. and infiltrate the anti-Castro Cuban exile community?

They talked the talk, and went to anti-Castro rallies. Bought a John Birch Society bumper sticker for their car that read, “Kan the Kennedy Klan” that they changed to “Kill the Kennedy Klan”.

They were discovered however, and the Rambler that one of them owned had a part to play in the JFK assassination, and they became patsies to blame the murder on Castro?

Just speculating.

Steve Thomas

Duke,

Is it a fact that the cab wasn't there because Helen Markham didn't say she saw it? She walked the same way every day, saw cars parked on the streets in her very own neighborhood,

Just for my own curiousity...

Helen lived at 328 E. 9th, which would have put her at 9th and Crawford?

Do you know why she was coming down Patton?

Did her bus headed to downtown not stop at Crawford and Jefferson?

Just curious.

Steve Thomas