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Gil,
Jack Ruby's links to Organized Crime are examined.All of the videos that you have put up recently are listed as private, with no apparent way to make them viewable.
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Jack,
Milteer was discovered in Houston Street images by Robert Grodenwhen he was employed by the HSCA in the 70s. It is covered in the
HSCA volumes. Below, from Groden's TKOAP.
Jack
Do you know if anyone was ever able to identify the man the Milteer lookalike was standing next to?
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Duke,
I have deliberately re-arranged the text of your response.
Hope you don't mind too much.
But, oh: to answer the question, the reason why she was walking down Patton and not Crawford was that she lived at the corner of 9th & Patton, and Crawford was a block away in the wrong direction!Thank you. It was a puzzlement.
Today I was in the neighborhood, parked my truck and walked it myself at a "normal" pace. It took me ONE minute and 30 seconds, perhaps a little longer, but only by a few seconds. I walked it four times at different paces and it never took me longer than UNDER two minutes, even sauntering like I was watching the birds in the trees, stopping to smell the roses and doing anything but worrying about catching my bus.It's nice to talk to a fellow researcher who takes the time to "smell the roses"
Thanks again,
Steve Thomas
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Question: How many other of these crop duster pilots defected to the U.S. ?
If anyone has any information on other crop dusters, I would appreciate hearing about it.
In the Senate Select Committee files, aka the Church Committee Boxed Files, there is a document numbered 157-10014-10120, dated 1/19/76 from Paul Wallach, entitled “Oswald in New Orleans. (This is on page 2 for those of you who go looking for it).
On page 93 of this document, there is a memo from Dan Dwyer to The Files dated 9/23/75. In this memo, Dwyer describes looking at the Department of Justice Anti-Castro files from the late 1950’s to the early 1970’s.
One of the files that Dwyer examined is dated 1/22/60, entitled Anti-Fidel Castro Activities. The summary of this file reads,
“January 12, 1960, Raul Cross, pilot for Arbana Airlines. The Cuban Government was having thirty pilots trained in Mexico, (using cover that they were being trained as crop dusters). They were using instructors from Chile at $700/month.”
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...mp;relPageId=96
Warren CD# 1085 is a letter from the Director of the FBI to Jay Lee Rankin dated June 11, 1964 with attached memos and reports.
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...amp;relPageId=3
One of the Reports included is a memo from Dallas SA Wallace Heitman dated April 29, 1964. This Report discusses the residents of an address in Garland, Texas and the sighting of a Rambler station wagon parked in front with a bumper sticker that says, “Kill the Kennedy Klan.”
While Heitman’s memo is heavily redacted, other research has revealed the two residents of 806 E. Monica in Garland, TX were Raul Castro and Juan Quintana.
Manuel Rodriguez Orcarberro had revealed that Raul Castro and Juan Quintana were members of Alpha-66 and the SNFE.
For Bill Kelly: In 1963 the former resident of that address was Harold E. Yoder and his wife Rosie… He worked for Collins Radio.
On page 6 of his memo, Heitman says this his source told him that the two unnamed subjects of the memo had been employed by him (the source) for approximately one year. He said they were Cuban citizens and who were trained as duster pilots in Mexico for the Cuban Government and later defected from the Fidel Castro Government and came to the United States.
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...p;relPageId=215
The two subjects were known to be violently anti-Castro and had attended the speech by Adlai Stevenson in Dallas when he got bonked on the head by a picket sign.
The wives of both subjects of Heitman’s memo were Mexican citizens.
One of the two subjects of this memo entered the U.S. illegally by swimming across the Rio Grande at Lightner’s Pump (sp?) about five miles east of Brownsville, TX. He crossed with his friend who was apprehended. Records of the INS revealed to Heitman that the subject had left Cuba in blank, 1960 and went to Mexico, which he left on December 26, 1960.
The INS files reveal that the subject stated that many of the students attending the two airline schools he attended were Communists and Fidel Castro supporters. He named several students (redacted) studying to be air traffic control operators were known Communists.
Just some food for thought: What if Raul Castro and Juan Quintana were double agents, sent to Mexico to ostensibly to train as crop dusters and then told to defect to the U.S. and infiltrate the anti-Castro Cuban exile community?
They talked the talk, and went to anti-Castro rallies. Bought a John Birch Society bumper sticker for their car that read, “Kan the Kennedy Klan” that they changed to “Kill the Kennedy Klan”.
They were discovered however, and the Rambler that one of them owned had a part to play in the JFK assassination, and they became patsies to blame the murder on Castro?
Just speculating.
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Duke,
Is it a fact that the cab wasn't there because Helen Markham didn't say she saw it? She walked the same way every day, saw cars parked on the streets in her very own neighborhood,Just for my own curiousity...
Helen lived at 328 E. 9th, which would have put her at 9th and Crawford?
Do you know why she was coming down Patton?
Did her bus headed to downtown not stop at Crawford and Jefferson?
Just curious.
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Bill,
[*]At the time of the assassination Adml. Bruton was working on a top-secret nuclear submarine communications project for Collins, with the Navy's nuclear sub radar and communications HQ being based at Woods Hole, Massachusetts, close neighbors of Michael Paine's family island.Do you know if Admiral Bruton's name surfaced in connection with the Thresher incident?
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Mark,
It was Decker who denied that Craig was present in the interrogation room. However, later on, a picture surfaced and proved the opposite.Mark
I'm sorry, but it was Fritz.
Decker wasn't in the interrogation room.
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Duke,
CD630, page 32 - Markham's residence, 328½ E 9th (even numbers at south side of street, building at SW corner)FWIW:
I just learned yesterday, from a Jerry Rose article in vol. 1, issue# 3 of the Third Decade, that a former residence of Carousel stripper, Joyce Lee McDonald, aka Joy Dale was 328 1/2 E. 9th.
DPD Archives, Box 18, Folder# 9, Item# 2 p. 1
There is no information that they ever met.
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Rex,
The Third Decade is now online as well:Thanks for this.
Hats off to you.
Steve Thomas
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James,
According to the photos available definitely not the DPD rifle. I wonder how this ties in with the rifle theories and photos of the other rifles around.Hi Antti,
Here is a shot of the DPD rifle.
Interesting side note to this photograph is the identikit image on the far right. Who on earth is that supposed to be of?
James
Could you re-post the picture you referenced in this posting back in 2004?
If it's the picture I am thinking of, I have my own suspicions.
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Thomas,
However, the topic matter is the "Hard-Hat" man.I think he has been identified as A.J. Millican.
You can read his affidavit here:
http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/millican.htm
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Jim,
If you only had three paragraphs of text and three pieces of evidence {letters, pictures, maps , diagrams ,testimony, ect..}, to convince someone of conspiracy in the JFK Assassination what would your top selections be?Mine has always been the number of missed shots, and when they occurred.
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Duke,
The schedule, as I'd noted, was published in a Commission Document, meaning you won't find it in any of the volumes. I'll see if I can't get ahold of that info for you, and possibly publish it here or elsewhere if it's not online already (I haven't found it yet among the Mary Ferrell collection, but then, I'm not sure which one I'm looking for!).From my reading, it appears that the Secret Service, especially the local Dallas office was given the task of tracking down various bus schedules; so I would look for reports from them.
CD 689 is a report from SS Agent James Patterson about various bus schedules in the City of Dallas. Look around pp. 11+
Also the WC testimony of Cecil McWatters - the bus driver has a schedule of his route in 16H972 (I think it's CE 372)
The print is so tiny in the Commission Documents that it's hard to follow.
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Jack White wrote:
Skulls do not change shape.Please see my thread on "Oswald's cranium" and tell me what you think.
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I may be off the wall here, and if I am, that's okay.
This goes back to the thread on Enid Gray and Oswald's appearance and whether he was 5'9" or 5'11".
I got to looking at Oswald's picture on his June, 1963 passport and comparing it to the photo supposedly taken in Mexico in September for his visa application.
Regardless of how close or far away the camera is, shouldn't the relative dimensions of a person's skull with respect to the length measuring from the tip of the chin to the top of the head vs. the width at the widest point remain the same?
In the picture on the right (his visa application from Sept), measuring length to width, I am coming up with 27/16th's X 18/16th's (or about 14/8th's X 9/8th's).
In the picture on the left (the June passport application), I am coming up with 16/16th's X 10/16th's (or 8/8th's X 5/8th's).
The dimensions seem to be different.
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Greg,
Incidently, the incredible shrinking man syndrome is not unique to Lee Harvey Oswald. It also happens to people who in an effort to lose weight, place themselves on such a stringent low calorie diet that along with losing pounds in weight, they lose inches in height. [/i][/color]
On his June, 1963 application for a passport, Oswald listed his height as 5'11".
In September, 1963, when LHO wanted to get a Cuban transit visa, Sylvia Duran told him that he would have to supply some photographs.
Does anyone have a copy of those photos? I've seen them in a sort of film strip fashion.
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Myra,
The quote you attributed to me isn't mine. I think Wim said it.Regardless, I agree with the quote. And I also agree that there were many LHO impostors running around filling out job applications, trying to buy cars, going to Mexico... and so on. I just don't believe in the premise that there was a second LHO for the duration of the first LHO's life.
Instead I think the CIA sent some random hacks to use the real LHO's name at significant times in the months prior to their murder of the President, to set him up as the patsy. For example, to take target practice.
I think you're right, and sorry about the quote thingy.
Steve
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Myra,
""Harvey and Lee" may have some good points, Lee was certainly impersonated by others to nail him as the patsy, but the core thesis that the Lee Harvey Oswald "defecting" to Russia, was another person than the one shot by Jack Ruby, is preposterous. In fact it can be easily disproven, with a voice tape of Lee in Russia that surfaced in recent years. It's the same voice that exclaimed "I'm just a patsy!""It's kind of interesting, I'm reading Anthony Summers', "Conspiracy."
In it, he says that all of the job applications filled out in New Orleans in the summer of 1963 by a person claiming to be Lee Oswald listed his height as 5'9" tall.
Oswald's Marine records listed him as 5'11" tall.
I just read Oswald's autopsy report in the DPD Archives. LHO's height was given as 5'9".
DPD Archives Box 2 Folder# 5, Item#'s 2 and 3.
Interesting.
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This part of george Bushs speech last night has not received any attention in the major news media, but when I heard it I was thunderstruck.
He said:
"A second task we can take on together is to design and establish a volunteer Civilian Reserve Corps. Such a corps would function much like our military reserve. It would ease the burden on the Armed Forces by allowing us to hire civilians with critical skills to serve on missions abroad when America needs them. And it would give people across America who do not wear the uniform a chance to serve in the defining struggle of our time."
And I went huh?
George Bush want to revamp Roosevelt's Civilian Conservation Corps and turn it into his own private army?
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Peter,
I was sent [very strangely!] two versions...taken [apparently just before and just after announcement on JFK] of same group of persons. In the other shot they are reacting in mild shock to something they heard and eyes turn toward radio....They look possibly Russian or Soviet to me....they were sent to me 15 years ago and just arrived....the person who sent them is now dead, so can't ask him.....anyone know anyone in the shots?....Can't help you with the people in the photo, but can you tell me what kind of blue and white car that is in the background?
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http://www.jfk-online.com/jfk100bev.html
On that page, Beverly Oliver is claimed to have said, "In recent years, she has begun claiming to have seen young police recruit Roscoe White on the grassy knoll just after the assassination, without a hat,..."
About halfway through the Hughes film, there are movie pictures taken in the railyards. Just to the left of the relevant frames, there is a policeman standing there without a hat.
Does his body type correspond to Roscoe White?
I think maybe.
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Greg,
There were several media people there.Are any of their names on the list?
I was thinking of these two in particular:
Clifford M Derzapf "The Shield"
P. O. Box 1330 D. 21
Karen Martin Dallas Morning News
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Peter,
Wow, Whoever he was, he was not your 'average Joe'! In the photo with Johnson he is so close the SS and others wouldn't have let him be there if he wasn't quite very important and have HUGE security clearances. This man is NOT just a 'bystander', whoever he is!!!! James, can you post the shot of him by Johnson!!I don't think they are the same person.
If they are, he has changed coats. The guy in Dealey Plaza has a handkerchief sticking out of his left breast pocket.
The guy at Parkland has a coat that does not have a breast pocket.
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Bill,
Is there an address for Budget Auto Sales?BK
It appears that Budget Auto Sales is still in business under the name
BUDGET Car Sales of Dallas
4917 Ross Ave
Dallas, Tx 75206
(214) 823-6200 or (888) 895-0818
here's their web site:
http://www.budgetcarsalesdallas.com/
There is also a Budget Auto Sales in Dallas:
Budget Auto 214-824-9922 2625 Live Oak St Dallas TX 75204
and
Budget Auto Sales 214-398-5747 1021 S Buckner Blvd Dallas TX 75217
Steve Thomas
General Krulak
in JFK Assassination Debate
Posted
Thomas,
From Foreign Relations of the United States, 1964-1968, vol. XII, Western Europe, pp. XXXI-XXXV, April 16, 2001.
http://www.fas.org/sgp/advisory/state/covert.html
Notice the line that says, "Membership varied..."
By the end of the Eisenhower administration, this group, which became known as the "NSC 5412/2 Special Group" or simply "Special Group," emerged as the executive body to review and approve covert action programs initiated by the CIA. The membership of the Special Group varied depending upon the situation faced. Meetings were infrequent until 1959 when weekly meetings began to be held. Neither the CIA nor the Special Group adopted fixed criteria for bringing projects before the group; initiative remained with the CIA, as members representing other agencies frequently were unable to judge the feasibility of particular projects.
After the Bay of Pigs failure in April 1961, General Maxwell Taylor reviewed U.S. paramilitary capabilities at President Kennedy's request and submitted a report in June which recommended strengthening high-level direction of covert operations. As a result of the Taylor Report, the Special Group, chaired by the President's Special Assistant for National Security Affairs McGeorge Bundy, and including Deputy Under Secretary of State U. Alexis Johnson, Deputy Secretary of Defense Roswell Gilpatric, Director of Central Intelligence Alien Dulles, and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Lyman Lemnitzer, assumed greater responsibility for planning and reviewing covert operations. Until 1963 the DCI determined whether a ClA-originated project was submitted to the Special Group. In 1963 the Special Group developed general but informal criteria, including risk, possibility of success, potential for exposure, political sensitivity, and cost (a threshold of $25,000 was adopted by the CIA), for determining whether covert action projects were submitted to the Special Group.
From November 1961 to October 1962 a Special Group (Augmented), whose membership was the same as the Special Group plus Attorney General Robert Kennedy and General Taylor (as Chairman), exercised responsibility for Operation Mongoose, a major covert action program aimed at overthrowing the Castro regime in Cuba. When President Kennedy authorized the program in November, he designated Brigadier General Edward G. Lansdale, Assistant for Special Operations to the Secretary of Defense, to act as chief of operations, and Lansdale coordinated the Mongoose activities among the CIA and the Departments of State and Defense. CIA units in Washington and Miami had primary responsibility for implementing Mongoose operations, which included military, sabotage, and political propaganda programs.
Steve Thomas