Steve Thomas

Thomas

Perhaps the spelling is not quite correct.

The spelling in Rowley's letter to Rankin is wrong. In an FBI document, he was identified as Col. Caster, but it's Castorr.

Steve Thomas

Does anyone know anything about the background or military record of Col. L. Robert Castorr?

I know he was an associate of Edwin Walker. Harold Weisburg identified him as the Colonel in the room with Nancy Perrin Rich and Jack Ruby discussing gunrunning to Cuba. Lucille Connell told the FBI that Castorr was going around Dallas stirring up the Cuban exiles. On at least one occasion, he was supposed to have shared a speaking stage with John Martino.

But aside from that, I can't find anything about him on the Internet.

Steve Thomas

Jim,

Greg

Very interesting!

Before I comment further I was wondering if you had a copy of "The Oveaseas Weekly" weekly article that "uncovered" General Walker's indoctrination of his troops?

If you go to this newspaper archive:

http://www.kennedyassassinationarchive.com/Default.aspx

Click on the advanced search tab and type in Overseas Weekly, you'll pull up a number of entries.

I haven't run across the article itself yet, but a number of papers quote from it.

One said that the Overseas Weekly article was published April 12, 1961.

Steve Thomas

According to McChann, while she could not identify Leopoldo, she identified the second Hispanic man as someone named Eugenio Cisneros.

I wish I would have read Sylvia's WC testimony before I posted this.

Mr. LIEBELER. So it was not Eugenio who was with Leon when those men came to your apartment?

Mrs. ODIO. No; I would have known Eugenio. He was a very close friend of my family and he did underground activity with my mother and father.

Mr. LIEBELER. But you did not tell him (McChann in their April 30th phone call) that you could identify the other man as Eugenio?

Mrs. ODIO. That's right.

Mr. LIEBELER. You did not tell him that?

Mrs. ODIO. No.

Larry,

Add that to the fact that she wrote her father in Cuba (before the assassination)

about two unknown men who had visited her and who she was worried about

and I have a difficult time accepting that she knew either of her visitors.

The date of McChann's phone call with Syvia was April 30, 1964.

The date of Sylvia's Warren Commission testimony was July 22, 1964.

In her WC testimony, she said,

"Mr. LIEBELER. Do you know a man by the name of George Rodriguez Alvareda?

Mrs. ODIO Yes.

Mr. LIEBELER. Who is he?

Mrs. ODIO. He is another member of JURE. And at the time, a little after that, after December. I was more in contact with him, and I will tell you why later. They are all members of JURE here in Dallas, working hard.

And so I asked him if they were sent by him, and he said, "No". And I said, "Do you know Eugeino?" This is the war name for_ _ _ _.That is his war name and everybody underground knows him as Eugenio. So I didn't mention his real name. He didn't know.

Mr. LIEBELER. Who did you ask this?

Mrs. ODIO. I asked these men when they came to the door--I asked if they had been sent by Alentado, became I explained to them that he had already asked me to do the letters and he said no. And I said, "Were you sent by Eugenio," and he said no. And I said, "Were you sent by Ray," and he said no.

I wonder why that man's name was deleted.

I wonder too if McChann or Kelley got that phone call wrong.

Steve Thomas

Pat,

[ And yet NO FBI interview.

Here's a copy of a 1975 FBI interview with Chaney.

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...65&relPageId=10

Nothing about being hit in the face.

Their November 26, 1963 interview with Chaney revolved around him seeing Ruby in Dealey Plaza the day after the assassination (CE 2324)

Steve Thomas

Three men came to the home of Sylvia Odio. Two were Hispanic and the third she identified as Lee Oswald.

The two Hispanics used the names Leopoldo and Angelo.

In a May 5, 1964 letter from SS Agent Rowley to J. Lee Rankin, Rowley describes a 4/30/64 interview SS Inspector Kelley had with Reverend Walter McChann.

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...341&relPageId=2

In this letter, Rowley said that at Kelley's urging, McChann called Sylvia Odio to get the names of the men who visited her home.

According to McChann, while she could not identify Leopoldo, she identified the second Hispanic man as someone named Eugenio Cisneros.

see page 6 of this letter.

I didn't know if this was widely known.

Steve Thomas

There was some interest expressed in a guy named Manuel Rodriguez Alcaldero.

Anybody ever heard of him?

In researching something else, I believe that this is a garbled version of the name, Manolito Rodriguez, aka

Manuel Rodriguez Occarberro.

According to Dave Reitzes in the alt.assassination.jfk Usenet Group:

Rodriguez, born in Cuba in 1928 and living in the US since 1960, was in 1963

the President of the Dallas Chapter of Alpha-66, the anti-Castro paramilitary

group based in Miami and funded by the CIA through David Atlee Phillips, aka

"Maurice Bishop." Rodriguez was also an officer of an organization called the

Second National Front of Escambray. Rodriguez told the FBI (in Spanish) that

Alpha-66 held meetings at 3126 Hollandale in Oak Cliff, and that he had no

contact "with any American persons or other persons" concerning arms purchases

(FBI report of SA Wallace Heitman).

The CIA sent a teletype to the Miami FBI office that an informant called "'D'

reports one Manuel Rodriguez (matronym unknown) living in Dallas, Texas, was

known to be violently anti-President Kennedy" (CIA 88-27). The Secret Service

also received this report and rather belatedly issued a Protective Research

Memorandum on Manuel Rodriguez Occarberro, describing him as "violently

anti-Kennedy." On the evening following the assassination, an informant

reported to Deputy Sheriff Buddy Walthers that Oswald had been seen attending

meetings of the Alpha-66 group at "3128 Hollendale" in Oak Cliff (7 H 548; 19 H

503, 505).

The CIA -- Alpha-66's sponsor -- denied that any such address existed. The FBI

revealed in 1975 that the actual address at 3126 Harlendale Street; it had been

vacated about a week before the assassination. The Bureau turned up 1963

Alpha-66 fundraising letters mailed from this address signed by "Manuel

Rodriguez, General Secretary of Alpha-66."

Steve Thomas

Raymond,

Good catch on this one, Chuck. Maybe you can just post the link, or provide the box no., assuming it is in the Dallas archive.

Davenport's Report can be found in Box 1, Folder# 4, Item #'s 6 and 7 of the DPD Archives here:

http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/box1.htm

Steve Thomas

I was reading through the transscript of a Conference Robert Blakey had with people like Mary Ferrell, Sylvia Meagher, Larry Harris, Gary Shaw, Peter Dale Scott and Josiah Thompson.

Pretty interesting stuff, including the names of some of the residents at 1026 N. Beckley.

They also said that half of the people at the Sportsdrome shooting range at the time LHO was supposed to have been there were Dallas Policemen.

You can find it here:

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/....do?docId=10375

There was some interest expressed in a guy named Manuel Rodriguez Alcaldero.

Anybody ever heard of him?

Mark,

Since the response to this topic has been so underwhelming, let me express my questions in another way.

Does anyone know of a source--website or otherwise--with the DPD radio transmissions of 11/22/63 that INCLUDE the transmissions relating to the Tippitt murder? I don't want transcripts, if they can be avoided...but I suppose they would be better than nothing.

Here's an audio source for some of the Channel 2 dispatches

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/dpdtapes/

and here's an audio source for some of the Channel 1 dispatches

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/dpdtapes/tapes3.htm

Steve Thomas

In the miscellaneous CIA series/ddp (deputy director of plans), there is an FBI memo from Mr. D.J. Brennan to Mr. W.C. Sullivan dated 11/23/63. In the memo, Brennan says that (name deleted) from the CIA wished to point out the Kosikov is a member of the KGB and that a German double agent has been in contact with Kostikov in connection with Operation Tumbleweed. Brennan goes on to say the CIA man told him that Schulz is being operated by us against the Soviets and that Schulz has had contact with the Soviets in Mexico City.

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...657&relPageId=2

I wondered if Schulz might be the "mystery man" in Mexico City.

Does anyone have a photo of Guenter Schulz?

Steve Thomas

Robert,

So, my question is simply; In the opinions of those who have posted on this thread and members of the Forum in general, (irregardless of Gerry P. Hemming's assertions) - Are there any others who believe A.J. Weberman's suggestion that there were two sets of tramps?

I believe the tramps were, in fact, arrested twice. Once by the Dallas County Sheriff's Deputies and again by the Dallas City Police Department.

As Jack indicated, the shadows on the wall during the famous set of photos show the tramp pictures were taken around 2:00 PM.

Lee Bowers in his testimony before the Warren Commission, vol VI, p. 288:

Between 50 and a hundred policemen came up the slope within 5 minutes. “That’s right. Sealed off the area and I held off the trains until they could be examined, and there were some transients taken on at least one train.”

Marvin Wise was interviewed by the House Select Committee on Assassinations on November 14, 1977 at 9:00AM at Dallas Police Headquarters. HSCA 180-10112 10156. Wise was a Dallas Policeman on November 22, 1963 and assigned to District #71 Radio Patrol in south Dallas.

He arrived and parked near the railroad tracks. He went to the TSBD and was assigned to the west side of the TSBD.

Wise stated that the men acted scared and he could smell wine on the breath of one of them. Wise took the men over to the Sheriff’s Office, and while waiting to turn them over, asked the men for identification.

“He turned the men over to the Sheriff’s Office (Deputy name unknown), and went back to his radio”. He heard over the police radio that a policeman had been shot, and a little later heard that it was J.D. Tippit”.

Notice the timing. The tramps have been picked up and are in the station when Wise hears about Tippit. (Tippit was shot at approximately 1:16pm)

William Earl Chambers was interviewed on 3/3/92 by SA Gary Gerszewski of the FBI and Lieutenant Kenneth Lybrand, City of Dallas Police Department.

William Chambers worked for the City of Dallas Police Department from October, 1954 until January, 1992. In approximately 1959, or 1969, he as assigned as a Detective in the Forgery Division.

“As they drove back towards the main police station, the police dispatcher was providing information regarding the shooting of Officer J.D. Tippett”

(Tippett was shot around 1:16PM)

After watching the individuals for a period of time, Captain Jones approached Chambers and told him, “take them into my office”. Once inside Captain Jones office, Captain Jones told Chambers, “find out which one shot the President”.

Chambers questioned them together and found their answers confusing and inconsistent.

“their stories as to where they came from and where they were headed differed from individual to individual.

“When questioned regarding the circumstances of their arrest, the three individuals indicated that they were on a freight car sleeping when they were wakened by officers with different colored uniforms than the ones worn by the officers who drove them down to the station.

Question: Sleeping? what time was this? They got out of the Salvation Army and on the way to the freight yards heard that the President had been shot. It couldn’t have been more than an hour lapsed maybe. Different colored uniforms? Driven down to the station?

“They were briefly questioned by those officers who then told them that they better leave town. The three then boarded another boxcar and were shortly thereafter arrested by the City of Dallas Police Department”.

(They were arrested twice. The first time, they were driven down to the station).

“Chambers believes that the Officers who first interviewed the hobos were members of the Dallas County Sheriff’s Department, who at that time had uniforms of a different color than that of the City of Dallas Police Department. The hobos were then brought down to the station.

Steve Thomas

I am not saying that E. Howard Hunt was one of the three tramps. I don't know that. But I ran across an interesting little tidbit today. I was reading through some of Russ Holmes' work files and ran across a hand written note - maybe from someone named Tom Brown - concerning some enclosures in an envelope.

It says, "Smaller envelope holding 24 badge photos & 6 negatives of Dallas hobo pictures. Copies of blow-ups are in Hunt's covert (red border) file."

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...983&relPageId=2

I wonder why someone in the CIA would put blowups of the Dallas hobo pictures in Hunt's covert file?

Steve Thomas

Francesca,

I was just wondering if anyone had seen this documentary? Apparently it features a home movie of the Oswalds from 1962 and also people who knew Oswald in Russia and in America.

Is it worth a look?

You can watch the program online here:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/oswald/

Steve Thomas

John,

I have created a new section in the index on resources.

This may be more than what you wanted, but here is my bookmark file.

Steve Thomas

Witnesses

http://jfkassassination.net/russ/wit.htm

http://www.history-matters.com/analysis/Witness/Index.htm

http://www.jfk-online.com/eyewitnesses.html

http://www.realhistoryarchives.com/collect...jfk/origwit.htm

http://www.jmasland.com/testimony/tippit/reynolds.htm

http://www.jmasland.com/database.htm

http://www.jmasland.com/witf_con.htm

http://www.jmasland.com/testimony/index.htm

http://www.jfk-assassination.de/warren/walt/index88.php

http://www.google.com/search?q=Warren+Comm...l&start=10&sa=N

http://www.history-matters.com/analysis/Witness/Index.htm

Police Matters

http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/...Vol20_0255a.htm

http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/...Vol19_0068a.htm

http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/...Vol19_0236b.htm

http://www.bearcat1.com/radiotx.htm

http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk...Vol19_0266b.htm

http://www.dealeyplazauk.co.uk/DPD%20Structure%20Nov1963.htm

Police Tapes

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/dpdtapes/dix.htm

http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk...Vol23_0432b.htm

http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk...Vol17_0194a.htm

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/dpdtapes/

http://www.jfk-online.com/bowles7.html#N_13_

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/dpdtapes/tapes3.htm

http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/...Vol17_0194b.htm

http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/...Vol17_0197b.htm

http://newton.nap.edu/html/JFK_audio/

http://www.history-matters.com/

http://www.jfklancerforum.com/dc/dcboard.p..._topics&forum=3

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/?o=1

http://arcweb.archives.gov/arc/basic_search.jsp

http://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/search.html

http://www.jfk-assassinat.com/forum/

http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

http://www.jfkchat.com/

http://www.dallashistory.org/

http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/contents.htm

http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/contents.htm

Pictures

gopher://freenet.akron.oh.us:70/11/SIGS/JFK/PMS

gopher://freenet.akron.oh.us:70/11/SIGS/JFK/NG/Sp/TM

http://www.areacom.it/arte_cultura/jfk/medeng.htm

http://community-2.webtv.net/ccwallace/JFK...tion/page3.html

http://www.jfkuk.co.uk/

http://www.jfklancer.com/multimedia.html

http://www.jfklancer.com/evidence.html

http://www.earthstation1.com/JFKAssassination.html

http://www.jmasland.com/z_color/

http://jfkassassination.net/russ/infojfk/j...exhf131p119.jpg

http://rhepler.freeyellow.com/shottime.htm

http://speciesofangel.serverpro2.com/featured/new_page_7.htm

http://www.pimall.com/nais/news/backyard.html

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/GoD.html#IMG21

http://www.jfkresearch.com/jfk/gindex.html

http://www.copweb.be/jfk/

http://www.ph.unimelb.edu.au/~jpc/jfk/results/netscape.htm

http://www.geocities.com/jfk_in_life_and_death/badgeman.html

http://members.tripod.com/~DAG_R/jfkgallery.html

http://cuban-exile.com/doc_226-250/doc0244.htm

http://members.aol.com/droberdeau/JFK/DP.jpg

http://www.alien.de/mysteries-online/index.../Downloads.html

http://members.aol.com/droberdeau/JFK/DP.jpg

http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/photogal.htm

http://www.jmasland.com/z_color/

http://jfkmurderphotos.bravehost.com/photos.html

http://www.google.com/search?q=photographs...l&start=80&sa=N

http://www.geocities.com/quaneeri2/

http://cuban-exile.com/menu2/2jfkphotos.html

Multimedia

http://www.jfkjr.com/archives/

http://www.whitehousetapes.org/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/s...000/2725221.stm

http://www.jfk-assassination.de/media/index.php

http://www.radio4houston.org/takingaim/hom...dio.html#051011

http://www.blackopradio.com/

Ruby

http://jfkassassination.net/russ/jfkinfo/jfk9/hscv9g.htm

http://www.rehistory.com/modules.php?name=...cadent%20Worker

http://arcweb.archives.gov/arc/servlet/arc...&si=4&st=b&nh=1

http://www.assassinationweb.com/issue2.htm

http://www.dallashistory.org/cgi-bin/webbbs_config.pl?#28008

http://www.textfiles.com/conspiracy/

http://home.earthlink.net/~jkelin1/consp_links.html

Other

http://www.jfk-online.com/billings3.html

http://www.acorn.net/jfkplace/03/Whole/TOA

http://server2.reasonablehosting.com/jfkbush/

http://web.archive.org/web/19970213193956/...man.com/htdocs/

http://home.wi.rr.com/harveyandlee/MexCity.htm

http://www.salan.asso.fr/index.htm

http://www.jfk-fr.com/fil_995.php

http://jfkassassination.net/russ/jfkinfo/

http://www3.baylor.edu/Library/BCPM/JFK/PennJones.html

http://209.200.112.7/forums/

http://cdo.co.uk/jfk/people.php?show=howard_l_hunt

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/ferriephone.txt

http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/belligerence/

http://www.jfklibrary.org/frus_list.html

http://www.gwu.edu/%7Ensarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB103/

http://jfk.iefactory.com/linksi.htm

http://www.assassinationweb.com/front.htm

http://jfkmurdersolved.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=14

http://www14.homepage.villanova.edu/david.barrett/bop.html

http://www.assassinationresearch.com/v2n1/chrono1.pdf

http://www.assassinationresearch.com/v2n1/chrono2.pdf

http://www.boston.quik.com/amarsh/docs-cia.htm

http://www.jfk-online.com/billings1.html

http://www.mindtoysrus.com/mindtoys/jfk/jfkchain.htm

http://www.manuscriptservice.com/FFiDP-2/

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/oswald/view/

http://www.manuscriptservice.com/DPQ/dparchiv1.htm

http://www.john-f-kennedy.net/

http://www.manuscrit.com/catalogue/textes/...?idOuvrage=6060

http://www.ajweberman.com/nodules/

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...547&relPageId=2

http://mdah.state.ms.us/arlib/contents/er/...om/scquery.html

http://spot.acorn.net/jfkplace/09/fp.back_issues/

http://www.members.aol.com/hdblenner/DallasArchives.htm

http://www.coverthistory.blogspot.com/

http://members.aol.com/DRoberdeau/JFK/GHOS...update2001.html

http://www.republiquelibre.org/cousture/JFK.HTM

http://www.geocities.com/kirkspockmccoy75234/austin.html

http://www.assassinationweb.com/issue3.htm

http://www.assassinationweb.com/front.htm

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/sites.htm

http://www.webcom.com/ctka/probeframes.html

http://www.jfk-info.com/index2.html

http://www.totse.com/en/conspiracy/dead_kennedys/index.html

http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/

http://www.jfk-online.com/

http://home.cfl.rr.com/mayhr01/jfk.html

http://www.jfk-assassination.de/index.html

http://www.jfk-info.com/files.htm

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/dealey.htm#mercer

http://www.jfk-info.com/files.htm

http://www.jfk-online.com/jfklinks.html

http://www.history-matters.com/essays/jfkg...Questions_5.htm

http://www.jfk-online.com/jfklinks.html

http://www.jfklancer.com/

http://www.jfklancer.com/LNE/index.html

http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib.htm

http://www.math.unl.edu/~lcharbon/JFK/

http://pages.prodigy.net/whiskey99/introduction.htm

gopher://freenet.akron.oh.us:70/h0/SIGS/JFK/FP/fp.back_issues/fp_backissues.html

http://iquebec.ifrance.com/Assassinat/Susp...10179-10310.htm

http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/document1.htm

http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/confession2.htm#N_15_

http://www.jfkfiles.com/archives/

http://roswell.fortunecity.com/angelic/96/pconline.htm

http://rhepler.freeyellow.com/index.html

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senate/5439/

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/arrb/

http://home.flash.net/~sammc/index.html#center

http://www.geocities.com/m_j_russ/hsc.htm

http://karws.gso.uri.edu/JFK/history/wc_pe..._reactions.html

http://www.conspiracy-net.com/archives/con...sinations.shtml

http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/arr...ARRB_Custer.htm

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senat...Newspapers.html

http://jfkresearch.freehomepage.com/

http://homepages.which.net/~j.wassell/jfk.htm

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senat.../Documents.html

http://www.acorn.net/jfkplace/04/4-00.html

http://www.konformist.com/jfkland/jfkland.htm

http://www.OnlineToday.Com/~smyers/

http://web.archive.org/web/20010210063244/...otorcycles.html

http://web.archive.org/web/20010210063244/...otorcycles.html

http://www.geocities.com/jfkinfo/jfklinks.htm

http://www.geocities.com/denismorissette/Documents.html

http://www.geocities.com/jfk_in_life_and_death/jfk.html

http://www.jfk-online.com/jfklinks.html

http://www.jmasland.com/witf_con.htm

http://dallaslibrary.org/CTX/Archives/D.htm

http://www.conspire.com/cabal.html

http://208.23.112.203/section4.htm

http://speciesofangel.serverpro2.com/featured/page2ab.html

http://www.jfkresearch.com/morningstar/morningstar3.htm

http://www.ar.com/ger/alt/assassination/jfk/content.html

http://www.harrison-e-livingstone.com/jfk/prefaces.htm

http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk...ry/contents.htm

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=+%22thre...8&start=40&sa=N

http://jfkassassination.net/russ/

http://www.historybuff.com/

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=+%22thre...ol.com&rnum=212

http://www.jfk-online.com/jfkdocs.html

http://www.boston.quik.com/amarsh/

http://www.bestjudo.com/Marsh.html

http://jfkassassination.net/russ/jfkinfo4/jfk12/hscawtns.htm

http://www.aarclibrary.com/publib.htm

http://www.thelawparty.org/Kennedy%20Assasination.htm

http://www.geocities.com/jfkawards/links.htm

http://spot.acorn.net/jfkplace/09/fp.back_...Issue/cops.html

http://www.jfkresearch.com/videos/reymond1.qt

http://www.blackopradio.com/archives.html

http://www.assassinationresearch.com/

http://www.dealeyplazauk.co.uk/default.htm

http://jfkmurder.com/

http://www.jfk-info.com/files.htm

http://www.jfk-online.com/shinley.html

http://community-2.webtv.net/ccwallace/JFKAssassination/

http://ourworld-top.cs.com/mikegriffith1/id56.htm

http://ourworld-top.cs.com/mikegriffith1/id35.htm

http://home.earthlink.net/~sixthfloor/estes.htm

http://www.ajweberman.com/nodules/nodule35.htm

http://tbrnews.org/Archives/a1101.htm

http://ourworld.cs.com/mikegriffith1/id95.htm

Brian,

The site is: AARC- Assassination Archives and Research Center

I think AARC's web site address is:

http://www.aarclibrary.org/

Steve Thomas

Duke,

Well, first off, Ms Helen Marsille seems to have lived at the same address as (or possibly across the street from?) Ms Helen Markham, so my first question would be: is this simply a misspelling?

That said, Poe's witnesses - however many there were - probably were at the same location if he heard anything that they said, directly to him, among themselves, or otherwise. Without an identification of who these "six to eight" or "six or seven" people are, it's hard to qualify their statements beyond general observation.

... And that general observation is that enough people saw him go at least to Patton & Jefferson and thence west to prove that the shooter didn't take the alley from Patton to points west ... although it is clearly possible that he went in the alley AFTER he went behind Bellew's Texaco at Jefferson & Crawford (although I have different hypothesis entirely).

Otherwise ...? Yes, it is possible that they may have witnessed two different men in the alleyway ... which goes several blocks east of Patton, and two or three blocks west, all the while being "between Jefferson and Tenth," so where they saw him east or west of Patton matters, too.

In his orginal report, and in his supplementary report, Poe spells her name two different ways. I guess he had a hard time spelling.

For the longest time I had trouble with the Texaco station, because in Robert and Mary Brock's FBI interview, the address is given as 600 Jefferson, which would be two blocks EAST of Patton.

CD 385 pp. 92 and 93

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...86&relPageId=97

(Remember in Poe's Supplementary Report, he has LHO running in the alley heading east), but I just looked at Roger Ballew's FBI interview on page 91 (yes, they spell it Ballew) and they give the address as 300 Jefferson.

It's funny - the same FBI agent, on the same day (January 22nd). I guess he was tired.

If you follow the dispatch tapes, they have the suspect heading up Jefferson until 1:32 PM. At 1:32, he is now reported running up the alley.

Steve Thomas

Duke,

01:20 - gunman turns onto Jefferson Blvd.

What do you make of the "six or seven witnesses" who claimed that Oswald ran up the alley, and not Jefferson?

Depending on the time and the location of the officer and witnesses, some people saw a suspect running down Jefferson. and some people saw a suspect running down the alley between 10th and Jefferson. Is it possible that they were witnessing two different individuals?

You can follow the progress of the suspect as he heads west on Jefferson from Patton St. up until about 1:32PM, and then everything seems to change.

1:19PM

The Dispatcher tell Unit 85 (Patrolman R.W. Walker)

Suspect running west on Jefferson from the location.

85: 10-4.

and more of the same...

On November 22nd, patrolman J.M. Poe arrived at work to patrol his normal patrol region of the western part of the downtown area. (WC vol. VII, pp. 66+). When the call came over the radio that the President had been shot, he reported to the scene of the crime. While he was guarding the building with his partner, L.E. Jez, a call came over the radio that Officer Tippit had been shot. He responded to 10th and Patton, where he wound up interviewing Helen Markham.

Later in the day, he reported to Chief Curry what he had done that day. (Dallas Police Archives, Box 7 Folder # 5, Item # 8).

In his official report, Poe wrote that:

"We were met by a white female who identified herself as being Helen Marsalle, 328 E. 9th St., who stated she witnessed the shooting of the officer... "There were approximately six to eight witnesses, all telling officers that the subject was running west in the alley between tenth and Jefferson Streets"

Later in the day, Poe filed a Supplementary Offense report (Box 7, Folder # 2, Item # 37). Here he wrote:

"We were met by a white woman who identified herself as being Helen Marsille of 329 E. 9th Street who stated that she witnessed the shooting of the officer... 6 or 7 witnesses said that the suspect was running east in the alley that was between Tenth and Jefferson".

Steve Thomas

I believe this may occurred for a brief time before the casket arrived. But the nurses washed JFK's body, it was placed in the casket, and Rike stayed with it the whole time.

Miss BOWRON: And then, we stayed in there with him and cleaned him up, removed all of his clothing and put them all together and Miss Henchliffe gave them to one of the Secret Service men, and we stayed with the body until the coffin came, and helped put him in there, and then we--

Mr. SPECTER - When you say "we", whom do you mean by "we"?

Miss BOWRON - Miss Henchliffe and myself.

And then Mrs. Kennedy wanted to be alone with him after the priests left, so we all came out and sat there outside and she was alone with him in the trauma room, and we didn't go in any more after that.

Did perhaps someone enter the room after Jackie, but before anyone else?

Steve Thomas

After getting fired, he went to work for the Marilyn Belt Factory in January, 1962.

The Marilyn Belt Factory was located in the Dal-Tex Building and shared the same phone number with Morty Freedman and the Dallas Uranium & Oil Company. Is my memory correct that noone's ever been able to dig up any incorporation papers on the latter company?

It's kind of odd. I can't find out anything online about the Marilyn Belt Factory. The only web entries refer to Armstrong's WC testimony, and a google groups search fails to show anyone talking about it in any of the usenet news groups.

Steve Thomas

Ron,

Was there really a dog in the car?

I was reading the WC testimony of the parking lot attendant. He said there was.

Sorry I can't remember his name, I wasn't paying too much attention, but his testimony is right at the end of volume 15 I think.

Steve Thomas

While researching something else, I ran across this little tidbit:

In his WC testimony, The Carousel bartender, Andrew Armstrong told Leon Hubert that after getting out of jail on a marijuana possession charge, he went to work as a maintenance man at the Holiday Hills Apartments owned by the Hunt Oil Company in the summer of 1961. 13H303

Around Christmas time he was fired, and they wouldn't tell him why.

pp 306-307.

After getting fired, he went to work for the Marilyn Belt Factory in January, 1962.

The Marilyn Belt Factory was located in the Dal-Tex Building and shared the same phone number with Morty Freedman and the Dallas Uranium & Oil Company. Is my memory correct that noone's ever been able to dig up any incorporation papers on the latter company?

He worked at the Marilyn Belt Factory for two months, then went to work for Jack Ruby at the Carousel. 13H307

Coincidence?

Steve Thomas

Bernice,

Hi John:

The above information has been provided by a gentleman by the name of

Maurice Philipps...it is from his blog, and was discussed in a thread

on the JFKresearch forum, the end of March /06.

Maurice has been posting in the alt.assassination.jfk newsgroup as recently as last month as well.

Steve Thomas

Scott,

I'm looking into the pre-Castro Cuban activities of French gangster Michel Mertz. I read somewhere that he may have been related to Paul Mondolini, another drug trafficker who was tight with Santo Trafficante Jr.

Has anyone ever heard of this? Thanks.

In his Blog, "I Have Some Scerets For You," Maurice Philipps writes:

I HAVE SOME SECRETS FOR YOU

By Maurice Philipps

http://somesecretsforyou.blogspot.com/

PHOTO GALLERY 2 FROM

DE DALLAS A MONTREAL

(Click on pictures to see bigger photos)

On October 10 1963, US Customs Agents at Laredo, Texas arrested Lucien Rivard’s courrier and make the second most important seizure of narcotics of the time. The heroin was coming from Mexico and was furnished by Paul Mondolini, a Santos Trafficante associate and a relation of French agent Michel-Victor Mertz that was expelled from Dallas the day after John F. Kennedy assassination.

Maurice does not provide a source for his statement that Mondolini was a "relation" of Mertz.

Steve Thomas