Michael Clark

Alistair, I think it has to be frames from a film as they are taken apparently so close in time. I am looking for that footage. Cheers, Mike

Thanks Steve. I am trying to confirm who is who. I think "Johnny" is the garage mechanic or owner. He would be distinct from JP David Johnson, if I am not mistaken. There seems to be a significant effort to document JR's presence at the police station at that time. The only reason I have yet found for that would be to counter Officer Olsen's claim to the contrary; that Ruby was at the garage adjacent to the (closed) Carousel Lounge. Those efforts seem to draw attention to themselves. I have a lot of bases to cover while looking into this. The only motivation to do so is scepticism. All one has to do is say that Olsen's testimony has been proven incorrect in light of other evidence. Thanks again.

I am not seeing "Johnny" Johnson's testimony. Johns Thomas L. Original Report Agent, U.S. Secret Service Johnson, C. W. Shaw preliminary hearing testimony District Director of the Immigration and Naturalization Service, New Orleans Johnson, Arnold Samuel WC Testimony Director of Information and Lecture Bureau, Communist Party, U.S.A. Johnson, Arthur Carl WC Testimony Owner of roominghouse in Dallas where Oswald resided. Johnson, Clemon Earl 3/18/64 FBI report Witness at assassination scene. Johnson, Joseph Weldon, Jr. WC Testimony Acquaintance of Jack Ruby Johnson, Mrs. Arthur Carl WC Testimony Wife of A. C. Johnson Johnson, Mrs. Lyndon B. WC Statement Wife of the President of the United States. Johnson, Lyndon B. WC Statement President of the United States Johnson, Marvin WC Testimony Member, Dallas Police Department Johnson, Priscilla Mary Post WC Testimony, ARRB Testimony Newspaper reporter who interviewed Oswald in Russia. Johnson, Speedy WC Testimony Acquaintance of Jack Ruby. Johnston, David L. WC Testimony Justice of the peace, Dallas. Jones, C. M. 11/22/63 Sheriff's report Deputy Sheriff, County of Dallas Jones, Orville Aubrey WC Testimony

Thanks Alistair, what I am seeing is some weird stuff going on that night at the Carousel and associated garage behind it. Larry Crafard was supposedly on the phone for 4 hours with a girl, unknown to him, while he was at the Carousel between 11PM and three. What I am getting at is that I will seem very sceptical of any evidence that Ruby was at that press conference. I think it is hugely important that he is not placed at the garage, for some reason. Of course, 55 years later, it doesn't matter much, and we'll never know unless Crafard or one of the Olsen's are still alive and has something new to say.

Olsen was in a serious car accident on Dec. 7 SPECTER. When did you last talk to Wally Weston? Mr OLSEN. When I was in the hospital after the car accident. Mr SPECTER. When did that car accident occur? Mr OLSEN. December 7. Mr SPECTER. How long were you in the hospital? Mr OLSEN. Two weeks, two and a half weeks. Mr SPECTER. What injuries did you sustain in that automobile collision? Mr OLSEN. I rebroke my leg. Mr SPECTER. In the same place? Mr OLSEN. The same place and some more breaks. And I cracked my chest bone. Mr SPECTER. Indicating your sternum? Mr OLSEN. Yes, sir. And I broke some ribs. Mr SPECTER. What hospital were you in? Mr OLSEN. Methodist.

Officer Olsen married Kathy Kay... SPECTER. When were you and Mrs. Kay Olsen married? Mr OLSEN. I believe it was December. It could have been January. Mr SPECTER. December of what year? Mr OLSEN. 1963, or January of 1964. ....and they moved to California.

Thanks Alistair. While reading testimony I have read at least one account of Ruby being alsewhere at the time of the press conference. I'll quote DPD Officer Olsen below. It cought my attention because I thought I had seen several accounts of JR being elsewhere before I started taking note of that discrepancy. I'll re-read to find the other accounts. Mr SPECTER. Did you go anyplace else? Mr OLSEN. We went to a garage. Mr SPECTER. Where was that garage located? Mr OLSEN. Jackson and Field. Mr SPECTER. What was the purpose of going to a garage at Jackson and Field? Mr OLSEN. We knew the man who worked there. Mr SPECTER. What was his name? Mr OLSEN. Johnny is all I know him by. Mr SPECTER. What sort of work did he do at that garage? Mr OLSEN. He was an attendant. Mr SPECTER. Why did you want to go see him? Mr OLSEN. To talk. Mr SPECTER. For any special purpose? Mr OLSEN. No, sir. Mr SPECTER. Do you recollect about what time you arrived at that garage? Mr OLSEN. Oh, 12, approximately. Mr SPECTER. Did you see Johnny when you were there? Mr OLSEN. Yes, sir. Mr SPECTER. Did you see anybody else while you were at that garage? Mr OLSEN. Yes, sir. Mr SPECTER. Who else did you see? Mr OLSEN. Jack Ruby. Mr SPECTER. Did you see anybody else besides Johnny and Jack Ruby? Mr OLSEN. Not that I remember; no. Mr. SPECTER. Now, before seeing Ruby at the garage on that Friday night, when had you seen him most recently before that time? Mr OLSEN. It could have been a few days or a week. Mr SPECTER. Do you recall where it was that you saw him prior to this Friday night? Mr OLSEN. Oh, it was probably outside of his club. Mr SPECTER. Do you recall the specific instance or are you just saying what you think probably occurred? Mr OLSEN. I am just saying what probably occurred, because I don't remember when I saw him before that. Mr SPECTER. Do you have any recollection what your conversation was with Mr. Ruby when you saw him prior to this Friday night? Mr OLSEN. No, sir. Mr SPECTER. How long did you talk to Mr. Ruby on this Friday night? Mr OLSEN. Two or three hours. I am now looking to find out who "Johnny" is, and to see if he testified..

Yes there is David, thanks for your reply. Also the above photo appears to be a film frame, as I've seen three or 4 shots that are slightly different from each other. Being a film frame may explain why the above shot looks a bit goofy to me. I have not seen that film yet. Cheers, Mike

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On 5/13/2016 at 11:47 AM, Ron Ecker said: The caption in Baker's book does not identify the man, who is not really standing between Nixon and Bush (as it may appear in the cropped photo) but is one of two men standing right behind them. The photo was taken in May 1953, and the man bears a resemblance to a young Jack Ruby.

From all of the testimony I have read so far, Jack Ruby is, by far, given the most latitude, deference and freedom to direct the questioning.

On 1/15/2007 at 7:22 AM, Greg Parker said: Bill, Huffaker was an army reservist based at Fort Hood. That, coupled with his career in the media may indicate he was working military intelligence. His name was appears on a DPD list of people believed to hold information on a Ruby-Oswald connection. Others on the list included Pixie Lynn and George Butler. You can find what PL and GB had in that regard (PL supposedly told a barman that Ruby ad Oswald were attending gay parties - GB claimed he had info indicating Oswald was Ruby's bastard son) but all you'll ffind when looking for what Huffaker had to say is a report saying THAT report was already filed.

I've been trying to track a few characters down between 8AM on 11-22 and 8PM on 11-23. Given the testimony I have read, I have to question the presence of Jack Ruby at the late Friday night press conference. We have about 3 photos, and a claim that Ruby was the one who corrected a police official, while being filmed, about the correct name for the FPCC. I want to ask the ladies and gentlemen of the forum, especially the photo analysis experts, what do you make of this photo. I'll post three of the same, with different contrasts. ***edit I would have uploaded three, larger, better pics but sometimes the forum software does not allow me to do that. So, if you are inclined, please download a larger, better pic and have a look-see. Thanks!

A film which was based on book written by the prosecutor of a court case, that was handed up for an indictment by a grand jury, and prosecuted by an elected District Attourney. That DA served 4 more years before being elected to a judgeship which he held for 14'years until his death.

The original was a double-8 film. Not 16mm. I believe that I read, on this forum, that the original double 8, went to Chicago on the night of the 22. At that time it was split between the A and B sides, duplicated, spliced back together, and then originals, dups, whatever, were forwarded on to Washington and Dallas (possibly one to Rochester?). Part of the story is that it was in Chicago, or Rochester, where a technician dropped it on the floor and damaged it. Sorry I don't have the source for you right now. Anyroads, no one, including the WC should be accepting testimony from Zapruder as to where copies went after the moment he handed them off. That is absurd. He cannot testify to the chain of posession once he hands them off. Cheers, Mike

It will be interesting to watch Trump bear such decisions. Without having done any research into the matter it has looked to me as if he has largely avoided such situations. Prior to his political debut, am not aware of any collusion with the Mafia, connection with dark political forces or deep political or economic scandal. He has rushed head-long into actions which would demonstrate his desire fulfill promises made to his base. He now has to kill Muslims to do that. It will be interesting see how he judges the pairing of the blood of innocent people with a Whopper and fries.

Wabbit season.....

That just might be a Rambler down at the knoll, to-boot! **** A couple additional links. This one mentions a witnesses to a wounded SS agent

I figured that I would bump this. I wondering if there is more input or opinions on what to expect.

Thank you!

Paul, Do you know if the pending records release includes WC documents?

Perhaps you were speed-reading Paul. The article mentions Bobby Hale, as one of the burglars, in the same paragraph that it also mentions Kennedy. Eexner and Monroe were both purported lovers of JFK. I don't see the AG, RFK, being the one being blackmailed regarding defense and aerospace contracts. The implication is that the Aerospace connected FBI agent's sons were unmolested by an FBI agent who witnessed them break into the home of one of JFK' lovers, two days before another of JFK's lovers was suicided in the same jurisdiction. Also, other accounts have Robert Hale murdering Connally's daughter, as opposed to suiciding her.

Paul, I. B. hale was an FBI agent and close associate of J. Edgar Hoover. He was also, at one time, chief of security at General Dynamics, not the Chairman. (using Wikipedia here) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/I._B._Hale

"Citing unreleased FBI documents, Hersh writes that Bobby joined his twin brother, Billy, in breaking into the Los Angeles apartment of Judith Exner, a woman who later acknowledged having an affair with Kennedy. An FBI agent observed the break-in on Aug. 7, 1962, but made no attempt to arrest the Hale boys, according to Hersh. In the book, Hersh speculates that the break-in was part of a successful attempt by the Hales' father, I.B., then chief of security at General Dynamics, to blackmail Kennedy into giving the company a major defense contract." Paul, The article says "Kennedy". I presume that to mean JFK. It's an attempt to dig dirt on JFK, not RFK, assuming it did happen. I'm not averse to drawing attention to unbelievably uncanny circumstances like this. If I were presenting serious research, I would present it as such. Another uncanny circumstance.... Fred Korth, Secretery of the Navy following John Connally, having been previously been CEO of Bell Aerospace, resigned.... "... as Secretary of the Navy. In 1969 he was elected to the board of OKC Corporation in Dallas. Later that year Fred Korth's daughter Verita Korth, supposedly killed herself with a 20 gauge shotgun." http://spartacus-educational.com/JFKkorth.htm

Castro's HSCA testimony http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/jfkinfo/castro.htm