Southern France, on the Rhone River, isolated small town few modern convivences for the time.  Then the still new CIA and the Army flew crop dusters over town dispensing an aerosol form of LSD.

How does this relate to the JFKA?  Allen Dulles authorized it, regarding him, see Davis Talbot's The Devil's Chessboard: Allen Dulles, the CIA, and the Rise of America's Secret Government: Talbot, David: 9780062276179: Amazon.com: Books  

If you still don't believe he would authorize the JFKA, read this.  A Terrible Mistake: The Murder of Frank Olson and the CIA's Secret Cold War Experiments: Albarelli Jr., H. P.: 9780977795376: Amazon.com: Books   From pages 350-351.

"two hours before noon, a young farmer stumbled through the door of Dr. Vieu, babbling incoherently and waving his arms about, a second man appeared ranting nonsensically . . . seemed to be in the grip of hallucinations."  . . . by nightfall he was he was doing his best to treat 75 delirious patients.  Many had to be forcibly tied to their beds.  An eleven year old boy threw his mother to the ground and tried to strangle her.  A local politician stripped off his clothes and merrily danced naked in the town square.  An elderly man ran about yelling, "My belly is full of snails."

A young man, violent, finally subdued by five others, tried to put him in a straight jacket, he ripped it in half, next tied down on a cot chewed through leather straps so intensely he lost teeth.  A five year old girl told her mother. "Tigers are going to eat us all.  They're going to rip us to pieces."  The girl pointed at the ceiling of her room and cried, "Blood is dripping down on everything.  Can't you stop the blood?"  A police officer later remarked, no sexual acts, rapes or molestations.  This despite the fact that many people seemed possessed by an odd euphoria, and went about profusely professing love for the world and all it's inhabitants.

"rumors ran rampant" Satan was blamed, also, low flying unmarked  aircraft had sprayed the town with an unknown substance.  Or it could have been those well dressed foreign strangers who had passed through town the day before.

By August 18th 250 people had fallen victim to the mysterious malady.  Four died, all "in muscular spasm and cardiovascular collapse." 

Per a White House letterhead document from the 1970s, involved Sideny Gottlieb, Frank Olson, George Hunter White, Pierre Laffite, more.

Frank was disturbed by it all, he started talking too much.  LSD, Deep Creek was a trap to interrogate him under the influence.

Then he was pitched out the window.         

So Cliff, what does this mean to you, why is it important?

I've been convinced of a throat shot from the front since the first time I saw the Zapruder film.  Did the exit of a bullet from the trachea cause the air bubble at C7/T1?  I've wondered for years it the trachea wasn't the target.  Would penetrating it prevent JFK from yelling in pain or "I'm Hit"? 

Also, Perry said when shown the death stare photo regarding the throat wound "that's not my butchery, I didn't do that."  Does this model maybe explain the need for the butchery, to remove the remains of a small caliber bullet? 

Wasn't there a nick in a bone somewhere here in the X-ray? 

I looked earlier, found nothing other than the Four Died Trying piece.  Surprising given his work on the MLKA and RFKA.  An acknowledged author.

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4 hours ago, Christian Toussay said:

- Oswald was not in the Sniper's Nest and did not shoot at Kennedy

No, he was not, and did not.  Your link did not work for me.  Good chance he ate his cheese sandwich in the domino room, after getting a coke.  Then wandered out front, with Shelly.  Where he finished off the coke.  

Someone shot from the snipers nest.  Quite possibly as a distraction for those below to look up and back (SSA's-Altgens) or a few to hear.  Maybe they hit Connally, no one knows for sure.  I've wondered if those shots were with the Mauser, if the Carcano was a prop, already planted before the assassination.

Who, how did they get away?

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Dr. Donald Miller.  

Oliver Stone.  You were friends . . . you'd have dinner together?  Yeah, we'd operated together a year or so . . . he would still categorically say I don't want to talk about the assassination.  Then one night after operating together several hours in the lounge afterward over coffee I asked again about the neck wound. And this time he said it was an entrance wound, unquestionably and entrance wound.  I took that admission as given in confidence.  . . .

But a year later in front of the HSCA, he once again reverted publicly like he did with the Warren Commission and said it was an exit wound.  So I didn't say anything about what Malcom had told me until after he died in 2009.  . . . I never saw Dr. Perry after 1978 . . .   So he told you this on what date, what year was it?  1977.

From JFK Revisited, pages 429-430.

The HSCA was established in 1978.

Why was Dr. Miller interested in the JFKA?  Dr. Burkley.  More tomorrow or the next day.    

Didn't he also do some work on the RFKA or maybe he represented Sirhan for a while?

1 hour ago, Robert Morrow said:

Russ Baker on D.H. Byrd's "Safari Alibi" at the time of the JFK assassination being dismantled: JFK Assassination: 60 Years Later, Crucial Alibi Dismantled - WhoWhatWhy

 

That's a good article Robert, thanks for posting it.

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Plus one more golden oldie from yesterday.  

58 minutes ago, W. Niederhut said:

Ron,

    I've never really studied the UFO literature.  The notion of inter-galactic travel by little green aliens has always seemed highly improbable to me, given the distances.

    So, what caught my eye about this particular article, (above) is the physicist from Harvard theorizing that such travel might occur through some extra-dimensional aspect of the space-time continuum that is beyond our four-dimensional ken.

    That notion about UFOs had, frankly, never occurred to me.

I've not read this thread.  My post comes from one or two of three or four books in a couple of boxes to be disposed of under my desk.  I don't remember the names of the books or authors at the moment.  But they theorize those from another world thousands of years ago chose Egypt as the biggest wide open landing space of their liking on the planet.  If I recall right, they offered as evidence USAF (and maybe USN?) pilots as well as astronauts commenting on the resemblance to a landing strip or field.  

Now I remember.  I was drawn into this by Jim Marrs who I greatly respect for Crossfire, a seminal book for me.  Then his Rule by Secrecy and Rise of the Fourth Reich were enlightening.  Alien Agenda was a surprise.  

Alien Agenda: Marrs, Jim: 9780061096860: Amazon.com: Books I read a couple of more related books.  Never could wrap my head around it convincingly.

5 hours ago, Pat Speer said:

3. Perry and others continued claiming the throat wound appeared to be an entrance for not only days afterwards, but the rest of their lives. 

There was no cover-up of the throat wound, outside the one I mentioned earlier--where the transcript in which Perry mistakenly said it was a throat wound and not that it appeared to be a throat wound conveniently disappeared. 

Edited 5 hours ago by Pat Speer

Pat, I respect your efforts over the years and your website is valuable, but I disagree over the throat wound, and it's never disappeared.  Dr. Perry essentially stuck by his story over the years.  He bent for the Warren Omission but then told others, with conviction that it was an entrance wound.  Based on his experience of having frequently seen entrance and exit wounds as an emergency room surgeon multiple if not hundreds of times in the Dallas County hospital, as well as a hunter.  He knew what he was talking about.  He said it 3X in the press conference immediately after the assassination, his initial and the most trusted expert interpretation of the wound.

2 hours ago, Vince Palamara said:

***ALEX HARRIS DISCOVERED THIS*** Please subscribe to his channel: https://www.youtube.com/@thejfktheorist1122 ***Alex gave me permission to upload this*** "Hello Vince, I don’t mind if you post the full Dr. Perry video again." Alex Harris, 4/8/24. Alex is a fantastic researcher! Amazing for someone so young, too!

 

 

Thanks to Alex for finding this in the first place and sharing it.  Thanks to you Vince for finding his posting of it and sharing it to a wider audience on your you tube channel and here.  Imho, it is truly of historic significance. 

1 hour ago, W. Niederhut said:

   I must confess that I have long been curious about the theoretical possibility of contiguous dimensions of the four-dimensional space-time continuum that we can perceive empirically.

   I have mainly wondered about this possibility in relation to the "physics" of certain "varieties of religious experience"-- to use philosopher Willam James' term.

    It never occurred to me that it might also be a possible explanation of UFO phenomenology.

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April 9, 2024

The pyramids were built by their progeny to direct them to the safest landing area.

14 hours ago, Marjan Rynkiewicz said:

I suspect that the navigator of Flight 19 was a relative of Hickey.

I laughed out loud at this.

From Fort Worth, where JFK spent his last night on this earth.

Thousands view total solar eclipse from Fort Worth's Botanic Garden (msn.com)

One more from the sound track at Tarleton yesterday.

I watched the eclipse from the university football stadium in Stephenville Texas, with just a wag, 1000-2000 others.  They had a split screen on the 66' X 22' video screen.  1/2 was a stream from 10 miles away at the schools Hunnewell ranch where their telescope is of the eclipse as it progressed.  The other of it from other cities via NASA, in Mexico, Dallas, Little Rock and Russellville Arkansas.  So, you could take a break from leaning back to watch it through your "viewers", my back still ached a bit afterwards.  

They also played an incredible song list relating to the moon, sun, space without repeating anything.  Many I've not heard in a while.  Waiting for the Sun by the Doors, Here Comes the Sun by the Beatles, Let the Sun Shine by Aquarius, Dancing in the Moonlight.  Hot Dogs, Popcorn, Pretzels.  A fun and festive mood with even a few people dancing to the music.

I was trying to remember where I first read about Harold Dry-Hole Byrd.  Crossfire? Nope.  Maybe High Treason? No again.  Some of it comes from The Radical Right and the Murder of John F. Kennedy by Harrison Livingstone, he's mentioned on 18 pages per the index.

I first remember reading of him owning the TSBD and going on his first African safari the weeks before and after the JFKA.  Then that he owned Ling Temco Vought aeronautics.  Where my dad worked from the early through late 1950's. Somewhere in there I learned about him being a member of the Dallas Petroleum Club along with George Herbert Walker Bush, H L Hunt, Clint Murchison, George DE Mohrenschildt and others.  Founder of the Civil Air Patrol, famous for a Ferrie - Oswald picture.  For which he was honored (founding the CAP) by none other than his friend General Curtis LeMay.  Last at the moment was him reportedly removing "the" sixth floor window to his home for a conversation piece.  

11 hours ago, Ron Bulman said:

It really is a big deal here.  They are expecting traffic jams in a small town like ours (20K, 35 with the college).  Hotel rates have tripled and quadrupled.  Five different venues hosting events, plus one tonight at the University's Huneywell ranch outside town where the telescope is.  They are hosting tomorrow also, opening up the football stadium as a place to view.  In case of overcast skies they are streaming it in a live feed from NASA, plus beforehand showing an Eclipse Over Texas video on the giant screen.  I feel sure there will be hot dogs, popcorn and maybe even beer available.

I wonder if they will bring out the band and the cheerleaders, maybe a speech from the President and/or Dean of Science, who I used to work for as a Department Head.     

Free t-shirts while they last from the chamber of commerce and visitors center, as well as "viewers".  Or, you can still order an official TSU Eclipse shirt from the book store for $27.99.

I think I'll go, pending traffic, I do know a back way in.  It sounds potentially like a carnival atmosphere.  I wonder if the suites will be open, though not a good viewing spot if you're looking up.

Might they be doing this?

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North Texas hotels, rental cars and Airbnbs are almost sold out ahead of eclipse, despite cloudy forecast (msn.com)

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Interesting numbers for this thread given it's content and time frame compared to others.  Maybe I didn't follow it close enough.  

5 hours ago, Cliff Varnell said:

I'm surprised it lasted this long.  Post it directly to the cornfield and few read it.

"This is a bad thread.  This is a very bad thread."

"Wish it into [political discussions] Anthony!"

That's funny Cliff.  Maybe enough to leave it up another day or two to see what turns up.  The Gozo - Bozo thread, in honor of HST?

20 hours ago, Ron Bulman said:

 

It really is a big deal here.  They are expecting traffic jams in a small town like ours (20K, 35 with the college).  Hotel rates have tripled and quadrupled.  Five different venues hosting events, plus one tonight at the University's Huneywell ranch outside town where the telescope is.  They are hosting tomorrow also, opening up the football stadium as a place to view.  In case of overcast skies they are streaming it in a live feed from NASA, plus beforehand showing an Eclipse Over Texas video on the giant screen.  I feel sure there will be hot dogs, popcorn and maybe even beer available.

I wonder if they will bring out the band and the cheerleaders, maybe a speech from the President and/or Dean of Science, who I used to work for as a Department Head.     

Free t-shirts while they last from the chamber of commerce and visitors center, as well as "viewers".  Or, you can still order an official TSU Eclipse shirt from the book store for $27.99.

I think I'll go, pending traffic, I do know a back way in.  It sounds potentially like a carnival atmosphere.  I wonder if the suites will be open, though not a good viewing spot if you're looking up.

Might they be doing this?

How to Sync Pink Floyd’s ‘The Dark Side of the Moon’ With the Solar Eclipse (msn.com)

15 hours ago, Paul Bacon said:

Yes, --or the sun will be blotted out on Monday and I, alone, can fix it.

I'm in the dark Monday.  My wife bought glasses so we can see the light, around the moon, without damaging our eyes.  It's a big deal here.  We're on the edge of total darkness.  Lotsa people coming to observe from closer to the center, nationwide, world wide.  

I had to laugh in Wal-Mart today, at the T-shirts.  NWS says we have a 50% chance of rain by 4:00 PM.  A good chance it could be cloudy by I think it's currently 1:39. I hope to see a historical event but if not it's just another Stormy Monday I guess.

I find these statistics fascinating.

On each of the four days from Nov. 22 through Nov. 25, between 72% and 75% of respondents said they tuned in for a minimum of five hours of coverage. 

This was in the day of three channels of TV, no internet.

I'm part of this.  The only part I remember, the empty saddle and empty boots.  John-John saluting.

• 81% of U.S. television homes had their sets on as the caisson carrying Kennedy’s body arrived at Arlington National Cemetery—the biggest audience of that four-day period, according to Nielsen—at 3 p.m. on Nov. 25.                     
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•  50 years ago, America turned on the television | Pew Research Center

On 4/4/2024 at 9:38 PM, Ron Bulman said:

Where has this been the last Sixty One years as W said?  Did anyone ever see it on 11/22/63?  Was it immediately squelched and confiscated?

Why is Sisco of UPI doing this interview, apparently for ABC, if Oakes only did Nellie Connally on Sunday that weekend?

Who owned ABC in 1963?

After looking around a little, maybe the better last question is who was president of ABC News in 1963?  In January it was still James Hagerty, since 1961.  After that, Elmer Lower, who hired Peter Jennings among others.

Hagerty was still a VP at ABC into the 1970's. 

 He became the press secretary to Governor of New York Thomas E. Dewey in 1943, and handled Dewey's presidential campaigns in 1944 and in 1948.^[2] He was in charge of candidate Eisenhower's press office in the 1952 campaign, leading to his appointment as Press Secretary in January 1953. He introduced television cameras to press conferences in 1955. He occasionally handled political assignments from Eisenhower, such as liaison with the Senate.  Wikipedia.  

He was Ike's press secretary and apparently somewhat of a confidant/advisor in some respects?  In such capacity might he have been aware of CIA interaction with the press, E.G. Operation Mockingbird?  Maybe he knew Dulles?  

If Dulles and associates operating from his home on the Farm, monitoring all news that afternoon evening saw this how would they react?  If say Dulles, Angleton, or Helms called Hagerty immediately and said kill this now and bury it . . .

Speculation.