Ron Bulman

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Great interview with Lori as devils advocate early on.  Though I almost bailed over this.  Pigs ears to polka dot dress.  Blood stained sheets (rightfully?) destroyed?  But 2000 photographs that shouldn't have been? 

3 hours ago, Denise Hazelwood said:

I believe that the partial hole that the autopsy doctors had with the small (EOP) fragment was largely completed by the Harper fragment, which showed signs of an entry wound. Dr. Mantik’s reconstruction puts that entry right at the EOP.

Yes, but what this thread ignores is Mantik and Chesser's analysis of two simultaneous frontal shots. 

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43 minutes ago, W. Niederhut said:

This is getting ridiculous... We have a new, sophomoric forum member who doesn't know the difference between journalistic fecal material and shinola.  And he loves to flood the zone with fecal material.

2 minutes ago, Nick Bartetzko said:

@Denny Zartman   Didn’t Jack White have a collage of photos he did years ago of the Mannlicher photographed in Dallas vs the one in the National Archives today wherein he alleged discrepancies as to the length and a slight variation in the font of the C2766? Any recollection of that?

Nick

Would love to see this if either of you can provide a link.  

On 9/16/2009 at 12:45 AM, Bernice Moore said:

your welcome peter ; always here is a photo and map of the \byrd \dry hole his first and largest\i believe.a1000 barrels a day...from one of the texas books....

This is a classic informative thread.

I find this post by Ed LeDoux particularly relevant.

On 3/24/2024 at 10:30 PM, W. Niederhut said:

Interesting stuff, Ron.  I need to read Albarelli's book.

Is it entitled, A Terrible Mistake?

I read Stephen Kinzer's, Poisoner-in-Chief, but I don't recall any references to Nixon and his associates being given LSD by Gottlieb.  Or Krulak and McNamara.

I've also been intending to re-read The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test, which I read almost 50 years ago.

I listened once to an interesting History of Rock 'n Roll interview of Jerry Garcia, where Garcia talked about the early days of the Grateful Dead, and his experiences at Kesey's Acid Test parties in the Bay area.

As for the English occultist, Aleister Crowley, there has been a scurrilous rumor circulating on the internet for the past 20 years that Crowley was Barbara Bush's biological father, and the grandfather of George W. Bush.  If true, Dubya Bush is an erstwhile spawn of Satan-- an appealing concept for liberal partisans... 😂

Legend has it that Barbara Bush's mother, Pauline Pierce, was involved in some sort of occult sex/magic ritual with Crowley, in Paris in the 1920s, nine months before Barbara Pierce was born. 

This rumor is probably unworthy of an Education Forum reference, but it is somewhat titillating.

According to the Internet, Aleister Crowley Was George W. Bush's Grandfather (gizmodo.com)

 

I had never heard of Crowley until reading of him in ATM.  The reviews of this book at amazon are enlightening.  Apparently there are several other biographies of him.

Aleister Crowley: The Biography: Spiritual Revolutionary, Romantic Explorer, Occult Master and Spy: Churton, Tobias: 9781780283845: Amazon.com: Books

The part in ATM is under a subtitle of The Occult Side of MLULTRA.  From pages 288-289.

The MKULTRA program funded drug experiments conducted by Alister Crowley, a controversial and some would say depraved, practitioner of the "black arts" and considered a "high priest" of occultism.  The World War II 'truth drug' research conducted by Stanley Lovell's OSS department had briefly examined Crowley's experiments with drugs, but had discarded them because OSS scientists found Crowley "simply too difficult to fathom."

Nonetheless the CIA took a second look.  . . . was a lifelong intelligence operative for the British government.  . . .  Crowley apparently enjoyed the effects of drugs upon himself, as yeas later in the 1920's he was experimenting with mescaline, and in the late 1930's he was introduced to the wonders of peyote by Aldous Huxley.  Compounding matters was Crowley's long time addiction to heroin, which had first been prescribed for treatment of his severe "spasmodic asthma".

What seemed to attract the CIA's scientific attention was Crowley's use of drugs such as datura, and a hallucinogen called "Raziel's Sapphire" that was used by Native Americans in Florida.  Crowley variously combined these drugs with sexual practices and wrote of his experiences in lurid detail.  Apparently, this tied into safe house experiments . . .  Gittinger would say years later:  Yes, we were interested in the combination of certain drugs with sex acts...  For a while we employed several prostitutes for project-related work in the safe houses.  They would lure clients in for the purpose of drawing information from them while they were preoccupied or distracted.

This would fit neatly with Crowley's practice of "sexual magik" and drugs.  Grant writes that Crowley used them [drugs] all in his search for the mysterious elixir potent to unseal the gates of the invisible world.  He also wished to compare the states of consciousness induced by their use with those resulting from madness, obsession and mystical exaltation." 

This is alluded to in the thread mentioned above but may be the best read on the subject.

5 minutes ago, Ron Bulman said:

On 6/2/2023 at 3:16 AM, Pete Mellor said:

Bingo Pete.  This has all been discussed here before, with no firm conclusion though I have kind of reached one myself.  Anyone truly interested should read these two old threads.   Kudos to Myra Bronstein for raising the question originally.  Dr. Crenshaw said he closed the eyes at Parkland.  I've read somewhere, can't find It, that Father Huber who gave the last rights said the eyes were closed when he moved the sheet over JfK's face to administer oil to the forehead as part of that process.  

Rigor Mortis sets in between 1-7 hours after death, depending on circumstances.  On the borderline for the start of the autopsy.  Autopsy Dr's can't remember if they were open, while they were examining his head.  One assistant remembers the right eye failing to close completely.  Humes noting fracturing of the bone around it looking from the rear.  Father Huber noting a wound above it.  The eye being sewed shut to fully close it in the preparation for burial process after the autopsy.  It all makes the official (non) stories questionable.  

Imo, staged for effect, 1" to 4" sliced entry wound as well, or part of digging for a bullet.

Edited just now by Ron Bulman

 

 

Well fooey.  That didn't copy exactly like I intended.  It's from page 3 of this thread.

On 6/2/2023 at 3:16 AM, Pete Mellor said:

Bingo Pete.  This has all been discussed here before, with no firm conclusion though I have kind of reached one myself.  Anyone truly interested should read these two old threads.   Kudos to Myra Bronstein for raising the question originally.  Dr. Crenshaw said he closed the eyes at Parkland.  I've read somewhere, can't find It, that Father Huber who gave the last rights said the eyes were closed when he moved the sheet over JfK's face to administer oil to the forehead as part of that process.  

Rigor Mortis sets in between 1-7 hours after death, depending on circumstances.  On the borderline for the start of the autopsy.  Autopsy Dr's can't remember if they were open, while they were examining his head.  One assistant remembers the right eye failing to close completely.  Humes noting fracturing of the bone around it looking from the rear.  Father Huber noting a wound above it.  The eye being sewed shut to fully close it in the preparation for burial process after the autopsy.  It all makes the official (non) stories questionable.  

Imo, staged for effect, 1" to 4" sliced entry wound as well, or part of digging for a bullet.

Edited just now by Ron Bulman

Robert, I've never seen anything about the pins part but I have posted about the eyes wide open part in at least a couple of threads over the last 4-5 years.  I also quoted Father Huber about JFK's eyes being shut at Parkland.  I had looked up and pointed out that rigor mortis normally starts within 2-4 hours after death, I. E. that if his eyes were closed at Parkland they would have been fixed in that position by the time of the autopsy at Bethesda.  Someone else argued that it is not uncommon for the eyes to open back up and they are often, like the lips, sewn shut with very fine thread/fishing line.  Someone else posited that the pressure from the bullet(s) exploding (in) his head created pressure on the eyes pushing them forward causing the eyelids to pop open.  Seems like there was more, I can't remember at the moment.  I'll look a little.

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3 hours ago, W. Niederhut said:

Can it be said any better than Russ Baker said it this week?

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Great article.

I've been wondering, IDK the answers.  I passed HS Civics and Political Science 101 but I don't remember.

If all three candidates get 33%, none 50%, none the 270 electoral votes to win the presidency what happens?  it goes to congress?  With a republican majority of one?   A tie with the VP's vote?

5 hours ago, Steve Thomas said:

“Also, would you please tell my client to shut the f*** up?”

 

That's classic, for a presidential candidate.

6 hours ago, Douglas Caddy said:

 

Thank you for a belly laugh Douglas!

On 3/24/2024 at 10:30 PM, W. Niederhut said:

As for the English occultist, Aleister Crowley, there has been a scurrilous rumor circulating on the internet for the past 20 years that Crowley was Barbara Bush's biological father, and the grandfather of George W. Bush.  If true, Dubya Bush is an erstwhile spawn of Satan-- an appealing concept for liberal partisans... 😂

Legend has it that Barbara Bush's mother, Pauline Pierce, was involved in some sort of occult sex/magic ritual with Crowley, in Paris in the 1920s, nine months before Barbara Pierce was born. 

This rumor is probably unworthy of an Education Forum reference, but it is somewhat titillating.

According to the Internet, Aleister Crowley Was George W. Bush's Grandfather (gizmodo.com)

He is most interesting in the book.  I went looking on the worldwide web and immediately ran into Ozzie Ozbourne.

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19 minutes ago, Cory Santos said:

I do hope your ear issue gets better.  Please stop hanging out with Tyson lol.  He has a thing for ears.  

 

So did Johnny Paycheck's Mexican friend,

21 hours ago, Robert Reeves said:

George Galloway is one of the most principled politicians there is. Far left. But a man prepared to talk to and politic with the right. 

Brexit: for an example. George Galloway in the early 70s was an ardent anti EU campaigner. He along with a young Tony Blair, Jeremy Corbyn, Tony Benn, etc. This was a left-wing campaign issue back then. In 2016, when Brexit was seen as far-right, racist, a bigoted campaign, George Galloway was one of a very tiny few from the left still campaigning for Britain to leave the EU, or Brexit. He famously quoted ''I'll hold my nose and work with these people", aka Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage, who are hard right. And that is what he did!

Whatever you say about George Galloway, and I doubt you could come up with much - other than what you find in the bias American media to copy and paste here, he can never be accused of lacking credibility. George Galloway is one the greatest political fighters there is in either UK or USA.

George Galloway at his best, below 

 

I knew nothing about Galloway.  Thanks for your post.  Watched 1/3 of the video tonight, he's very forthright. 

Regarding Krulak as his name has surfaced recently (again) in relation to Prouty I thought this might be of interest to others.  Not involving Prouty, but insightful regarding Krulak.

In late January 1963, Marine Corps Major General V.H. Krulak wrote a top secret memorandum to Secretary of Defense Robert S. McNamara regarding the "special prisoner interrogation project" authorized by McNamara for use in Vietnam.  That project, employing techniques developed under project ARTICHOKE, according to Krulak, was overseen by a " U.S. Army project officer who is most knowledgeable, having been in the program from it's inception" . . .  Krulak reported that the use of these techniques in Vietnam held "great promise for assisting in the production of timely tactical intelligence, with little difficulty and risk of exposure.

However, one particular technique showed special promise, wrote Krulak.  He stated:

There are many promising - and far more secure - opportunities for employing the technique in the field.  A case in point is Plei Mrong, a Montagnard training center set up by U. S. Army Special forces in pure Viet Cong territory, 25 miles from the Cambodian border.  The center sustained, and repulsed after many casualties, an attack by a force of several hundred hard core Viet Cong.  Several prisoners were taken and were vigorously interrogated  by our people.  A few broke down and disclosed valuable information . . . It is the view of the Army project officer that . . . on the spot use of the interrogation technique would have broadened greatly this valuable intelligence break-through, and on a most secure basis, since the subjects were too simple, too ignorant, to have any idea what was going on.

IOW, give them a dose of LSD, their mind would be blown, and they would spill the beans so to speak.

I've come to think maybe Prouty, Krulak, McNamara weren't fully in agreement with all they were ordered to do.  They still make me think of this song.

Yes, A Terrible Mistake: The Murder of Frank Olson and the CIA's Secret Cold War Experiments: Albarelli Jr., H. P.: 9781936296088: Amazon.com: Books 

It doesn't say Nixon was given LSD, but his Doctor, a SS agent and a White House staffer likely were.  Not by Gottlieb but in the Kremlin in Moscow by Soviet agents.