W. Niederhut

In the past week, Donald Trump has now vowed to, "obliterate the Deep State," and to release the JFK records, if re-elected. My question. Why doesn't Trump tell us now about the "horrible" stuff that prompted him to block the release of the JFK records in 2017? If the truth is important, why does he have to wait until 2025 to finally spill the beans? It reminds me of Trump's 2016 debate with Jeb Bush, when he said, "When I'm President, the American people are going to find out who really destroyed the World Trade Center on 9/11."

My suggestion is for the mods to set up a designated "Whining" board for these threads. Out of deference to whiners, it could be called the "Customer Service" board. 🙄

Get a clue, Karl. Biden's brain? How about Keynesian "Bidenomics" vs. Trump's multi-trillion dollar "trickle down" economic tax cut for billionaires and corporations? How did the moronic 2017 Trump tax cut work out as an economic stimulus? Trump's record low job and GDP growth numbers were even worse than George W. Bush's-- following Dubya's massive 2001 and 2003 tax cuts for billionaires. How about Biden's incentives for clean energy vs. Trump's moronic roll back of environmental regulations for Big Oil and withdrawal from the Paris Climate Accords? How about Biden's mass vaccination program vs. Trump's deadly, moronic bungling of the COVID pandemic? Do you, perchance, get your fake news from Rupert Murdoch's SKY Television?

Huh? Trump is risking his life? What planet are you living on, Karl? Trump has committed multiple serious crimes against the U.S. government and the public-- for his own benefit. And he and his Minister of Trumpaganda, Rupert Murdoch, have been pushing false M$M narratives since 2017-- blaming the "Deep State" for Trump's crimes. Trump "managing foreign policy?" So, you approve of Trump insulting our EU allies and NATO, as ordered by his KGB handler, Vlad Putin? And Trump taking bribes from the Saudis to green light the genocide in Yemen? Withdrawing from the international Iran Nuclear Disarmament Treaty and assassinating Soleimani? Withdrawing from the Paris Climate Accords? Trump taking bribes from Sheldon Adelson and Paul Singer, to abandon traditional U.S. mediation of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict? Everything Trump has ever done has been motivated by greed and self interest. He even violated U.S. policy goals in Ukraine in an attempt to extort dishonest, personal political favors from Zelensky.

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Yet another redundant "Biden snuff job" article on the JFKA forum today, Ben? Geez... 🙄 You're like a 5th grader who keeps shooting spitballs to see if the teacher will send him to the principal's office. At least this latest redundant July 6th article mentions the "JFK records"-- unlike the anti-Biden Atlantic article that you posted on two different "Biden snuff job" Ben Cole threads yesterday. You have, obviously, been using the "JFK records" sound byte as a pretext to post redundant anti-Biden MAGA spam on the JFKA forum, ever since the 56 Years thread was removed from the JFKA forum. But didn't Mark Knight set up a "Biden" board for you earlier this year, after you complained about criticism of the Trump cult? Shouldn't your anti-Biden MAGA spam be posted on your "Biden" board, or at your MAGA Water Cooler thread?

Hey, great news, Ben! You agree with Leslie and Robert Montenegro's critique of Trump and Rupert Murdoch's Fox/MAGA fascism in the U.S. I'm relieved to hear that you're finally getting in touch with reality, and admitting that the Trump cult has white nationalist/fascist characteristics. But do you still believe Tucker Carlson's claim that Trump's J6 attack on the U.S. Congress was a Deep State "patriot purge" op?

Ben, There are many things that seem to be "beyond you." Have you given any thought to my question from earlier this week about why Biden and Trump declined to release the remaining JFK records? Are we supposed to condemn Biden without knowing exactly why he has declined to declassify the remaining records? That makes about as much sense as your redundant Fox/MAGA posts claiming that Trump's J6 attack on Congress was a Deep State "patriot purge" op.

Ben, This is the second time today that you have posted this same Eliot Cohen Atlantic article here on the JFKA forum-- on one of your many redundant anti-Biden threads. What does this Atlantic article have to do with the JFK assassination, and why are you posting it here, instead of on your MAGA Water Cooler board, or on the Political Discussion board?

I wonder if someone in the MAGA-verse has already written a song extolling Ashli Babbitt. She laid down her life to destroy American democracy for Il Douche and his MAGA Storm Troopers.

Robert, I think the Fox/MAGA Horst Wessel is Ashli Babbitt, although, to my knowledge, Ted Nugent hasn't written a MAGA anthem about her yet. 🙄

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Well said, Leslie. And it seems like the recent, surprising Trump/Fox/MAGA interest in the JFK assassination is linked to the more general GOP propaganda campaign to discredit the Biden administration and the DOJ prosecutions of Trump and his violent J6 insurrectionists. The bogus concept is that Trump is being unfairly persecuted by the Deep State, like JFK. Using this MAGA logic, attacking the "Deep State" (Biden, Garland, etc.) is part of the MAGA denial of Trump's crimes. And Trump is even trumpeting his bold, new Flintstone-ian sales pitch about "obliterating the Deep State." Yabba Dabba Doo! 🤥 A corollary is that if RFK, Jr. started telling the truth about Trump's crimes he would abruptly become a persona non grata in the MAGA-verse.

Ben, I happen to agree with Eliot Cohen, but what does this article have to do with the JFK assassination? I understand that you want to bump your anti-Biden MAGA threads, but don't they belong at the MAGA Water Cooler, or on the Political Discussion board?

Larry, Thank you. Your inside knowledge of these details is extremely helpful. Meanwhile, it looks like Ben has been getting this week's anti-Garland tropes from the MAGA-verse.* Ben continues to provide a valuable service to the forum, by serving as the mouthpiece of the MAGA media. * Republicans Step Up Assault on the FBI July 8, 2023 at 10:16 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 14 Comments “When Merrick Garland was nominated to the US supreme court by Barack Obama, Republicans refused to grant him a hearing. Now that Garland is the top law enforcement official in America, the party seems ready to give him one after all – an impeachment hearing,” The Guardian reports. “Republicans on Capitol Hill are moving up a gear in a wide-ranging assault on the justice department and the Federal Bureau of Investigation that would have been unthinkable before the rise of Donald Trump. The party that for half a century claimed the mantle of law and order has, critics say, become a cult of personality intent on discrediting and dismantling institutions that get in Trump’s way.”

Ben, You didn't answer the questions, but simply rephrased your anti-Biden MAGA trope. Nice fold.

Ben, Since you persist in your feculent MAGA focus on defaming President Biden and Merrick Garland -- while misinterpreting any discussion of Trump's snuff job on the JFK records as "anti-Trump juvenalia" -- how, exactly, do you explain the Trump and Biden administrations' decisions to withhold the JFK records? Is it simply a Deep State cover up, or are there, possibly, legitimate security concerns about releasing the redacted intelligence files? Do we know the answer to that question? Meanwhile, you never commented, in a topical way, on the recent Newsweek thread here about Trump telling Roger Stone that the withheld JFK records were, "so horrible you wouldn't believe it." Was Trump telling the truth, in your opinion? And, if so, what was too "horrible" to believe? Answer the question about the reasons for the Trump snuff job, instead of endlessly repeating your feculent anti-Biden MAGA tropes.

Ben, Verily, you're not worthy to tie Merrick Garland's shoe laces. Compared to partisan right wing plutocrats like Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett, Merrick Garland is a stellar jurist. (Not to mention bribe takers Clarence Thomas and Alito.) So, how about doing a snuff job on your moronic MAGA Biden/Garland trope? The truth is that we really don't know precisely why Biden has declined to release the JFK records. Naturally, we all suspect that Trump and Biden have both simply covered up Deep State crimes, but I wonder if there is more to the story. Joseph Backes' post about possible exposure of U.S. intelligence activity in Japan is news to me. Who is more qualified to nominate a SCOTUS justice-- a professor of Constitutional law who edited the Harvard Law Review, (Obama) or a sleazy reality T.V. star who staged an attack on the U.S. Congress and has bragged about "grabbing women by the p*ssy?"

Yes, unfortunately for us, Ben has always been into the old advertising/propaganda Repeat-the-Jingle thing. What amazes me is that anyone who lived through the sleazy, inglorious Bill Barr years of Trump DOJ history would be myopic, or disingenuous, enough to now impugn the integrity of a jurist like Merrick Garland. But, then again, Ben fell for the "Russia-gate is a hoax," and "J6 was a patriot purge" MAGA narratives-- and he repeated those MAGA propaganda tropes endlessly. So, now we're stuck with Ben's daily "Biden/Garland" MAGA trope.

Geez...no one saw this coming. (I wasn't going to raise the issue when people here started posting photos of RFK, Jr. without a shirt.) I'm shocked, shocked to hear that RFK, Jr. beefed up by using steroids. 🙄 Isn't his first cousin Arnold Schwarzenegger's ex? Antivaxxer RFK Jnr admits using TRT - dubbed 'legal steroids' | Daily Mail Online

This guy, Trae Crowder, the "Liberal Redneck," always cracks me up. Here's his latest monologue about the White House cocaine scandal. He flips all of the Fox/MAGA Hunter Biden defamation on its head by celebrating Hunter as a kind of party animal/anti-hero out of Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. Of course, the MAGA Moms for Liberty wouldn't think this is funny but, for most of us, Trae Crowder would be an entertaining guy to smoke a doobie with.

I wonder if this is why Dorsey has recently endorsed RFK, Jr.'s 2024 candidacy. I also wonder about Dorsey's source material. He could have learned most of this by watching JFK-Destiny Betrayed, but does he have access to additional information?

Unusual M$M headline this afternoon-- from Business Insider. Donald Trump is now imitating RFK, Jr. by pledging to release the JFK records, (which he failed to do in 2017.) This mirrors Trump's recent pledge to the MAGA Moms for Liberty about "obliterating the Deep State." Yabba Dabba Doo... The author reminds us that we've heard this Trump BS before. Trump claims he'll declassify all of the JFK-related assassination records if he's reelected. He said the same thing in 2016, but ended up siding with the CIA and FBI to keep the documents secret. (msn.com)

Here's Ben's latest redundant, partisan MAGA spam if we, legitimately replace "Biden/Garland" with "Trump/Pompeo"-- so that Ben's MAGA spam is, at least, relevant to this thread about Trump's suppression of the JFK records. BTW, what a relief to know that Ben doesn't consider those of us on the JFKA forum to be "conspiracy nuts!" 🙄 Ben writes: Evidently, some commenters here contend if one suspects the JFKA Records are being suppressed by Trump/Pompeo to protect the security state---that is, the suppression is not legitimate---then one believes in "conspiracies." Well yes, there is, rather obviously, a conspiracy to illegally suppress the JFK Records, perped by Trump/Pompeo. They are accessories after the fact to the JFKA. I do not contend people with suspicions about the JFKA are conspiracy nuts. I think there are many legitimate reasons to not accept the results of government investigations into the JFKA, and to dismiss the reasons proffered by Trump/Pompeo to continue the illegal suppression of the JFK Records 60 years after the JFKA.

I didn't read the book, but I saw the movie. Doris Day sang, "Que Sera, Sera." 🤥