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C'mon, people. Does anyone around here seriously doubt that Tucker Carlson has a source familiar with the CIA documents supporting his recent shocking commentary? Does anyone think that he is just making this stuff up? Some of my fellow liberals around here seem to be blinded by their understandable contempt for Tucker Carlson and Fox News. As for the source, I still think it may be Mike Pompeo. Pompeo was, obviously, in the loop in reviewing the CIA documents that Trump opted to suppress in October of 2017 and April of 2018.

Kirk, I'm a progressive Democrat who has always despised Tucker Carlson and Fox News, but I do believe that he has a legitimate CIA source, as he claims, and I also believe that his recent commentary about the CIA and the JFK assassination is historic, and valuable. No M$M talking head in history has been willing to say on national television what Carlson just said. (Dan Rather must be sh*tting in his shorts-- after spending his career at CBS deliberately repeating lies about what happened in Dealey Plaza.) Do you think Carlson is lying about his alleged CIA source? I don't know what Tucker Carlson's motives are for this rather shocking outburst of M$M honesty about the CIA's involvement in murdering JFK and covering up the evidence for 59 years, but I'm grateful for it. There's too much all-or-nothing thinking around here--i.e., a notion that everything Tucker Carlson says is either horse manure or gospel.

Speaking of horses' mouths, Kirk, never look a gift horse in the mouth. Tucker Carlson's take down of the CIA last night was a historic gift to JFKA Truthers. I hope he doesn't end up walking it back, or "committing suicide" with a shotgun, like George De Mohrenschildt.

Unless Pompeo was Tucker's source and he wanted the public to hear it from the horse's mouth. The last thing Tucker said was that he hoped Pompeo would reconsider his refusal to be interviewed on the subject.

Perhaps their motive is to embarrass the Biden administration for colluding in the 59-year CIA cover up. But, nevertheless, I'm thrilled to see the truth being told by people in the mainstream media. Biden should be embarrassed. James DiEugenio didn't overplay his hand-- simply calling attention to the blank pages, etc. My question. Did Watters edit out more extensive footage of DiEugenio discussing the CIA's involvement in the assassination?

Any votes for Mike Pompeo being Tucker Carlson's inside source about the CIA documents? Pompeo was, obviously, in the loop, as CIA Director, when Trump "got rolled by the Deep State" in October of 2017. As for Tucker Carlson, I salute him for his outstanding take down of the CIA last night. I have always despised the guy, but I truly respect him today for finally telling the American public the truth about the CIA's role in JFK's assassination. It's bound to embarrass Joe Biden, and it should. I'm deeply disappointed with Biden for copping out on releasing the documents.

I thought James DiEugenio did a great job of not over playing his hand in the Watters World interview. Obviously, there is a lot that DiEugenio could have said about the CIA's role in the assassination, but he left it to the viewers to connect the dots about the blank documents. (I wonder if this was partly a result of Watters editing DiEugenio's commentary.)

Unbelievable!! I have been a critic of Tucker Carlson and Fox News for years, so I could hardly believe my eyes and ears when I listened to Tucker Carlson's takedown of the CIA and their long-hidden role in JFK's assassination this morning!Carlson hits on all cylinders here -- even discussing CIA psychiatrist Jolyon West's contacts with Jack Ruby, and his involvement in MK-ULTRA.Carlson also explains how the CIA and their mainstream media propagandists started using the term "conspiracy theorists" after 1964 to discredit researchers who were debunking the fraudulent Warren Commission Report. I agree with Ben and Mathew Koch on this one. This is the most important, accurate mainstream media commentary on the JFK assassination in history!

Geez, Ben, after all of this time you still haven't figured out that Russiagate was no hoax? Or that Brett Stephens is a Neocon shill? And, obviously, you still haven't read the Mueller Report, the Senate Intelligence Committee Report, or the Atlantic article I posted for you on this specific subject. Russiagate Was Not a Hoax - The Atlantic Franky, it's a complete waste of time to engage in conversations and post references for you-- rather like trying to reason with a television set tuned to Fox News. As for your theory that Biden declined to declassify the JFK records because he's a blackmailed grifter, it makes about as much sense as all of your other debunked theories. You must be confusing Biden with the biggest grifter in American history, Donald J. Trump. The truth is that Biden has been enmeshed with the U.S. intelligence establishment for decades, and he has never been one to pick a fight with the powers that be.

Geez, Ben, where was your moral indignation when Trump "got rolled by the Deep State" in October of 2017-- as Oliver Stone phrased it at the time? On the contrary, you continued for the next five years to view Trump as a heroic victim of Deep State persecution. As for Biden, I'm disappointed, but not surprised, that he is colluding in the CIA cover up of JFK's murder. He has always been an establishment politician, which is why I voted for Bernie in our local 2020 primary.

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It looks like Bill Brown is still struggling to grasp the law of conservation of momentum-- 17 pages later. 🤥 Perhaps he thinks that Isaac Newton was a kooky conspiracy theorist.

Interesting find, Cliff. I've been a Leadbelly fan for many years, and studied and recorded a number of his songs about 20 years ago, using the old Pete Seeger/Moses Asch Leadbelly songbook. (There's also a very good 1976 film about his life entitled, Leadbelly, that hasn't received the notoriety it deserves.) As for Marxism, Huddie Ledbetter was actually a Wendell Wilkie fan back in the days of the Dixiecrat South.

Well, I'm shocked to hear from our long lost itinerant Warren Commission Report salesman, Lance Payette, that most JFK admirers are liberals. Who'd have thunk? Lance, did you figure that one out yourself, or is it a Cognitive Infiltration Association talking point?

Speaking of definitions, can we help Mathew Koch and others from the MAGA-verse define, "woke?" I think John Pavlovitz has an accurate definition here.

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Ben, I'm responding to your latest comments (below) in red. Ben wrote: I deduce you are referring to me, although I am not from the "MAGA-verse." Ben, in fact, you post the same moronic, biased stories from the MAGA-verse media-- Daily Caller/Fox/Greenwald/Taibbi, et.al.-- on a daily basis, that I see posted by some hardcore, Fox News-watching Trumpsters on a less scholarly forum I visit. I was unaware of Rudy Guiliani's dressing habits. How he dresses in private is his business. And yet you are fully informed about the cross-dressing habits of a minor official in Biden's administration, eh? Meanwhile, the above photo of Rudy Giuliani in drag, with Donald Trump, was not private. He has also performed publicly in drag shows. Hasn't Fox informed you guys in the MAGA-verse about Rudy's cross-dressing history? Perhaps they only focus, selectively, on cross-dressers associated with the Biden administration. Why is that? If Giuliani goes around repeatedly stealing airport luggage (while on camera) then Giuliani becomes a story. If Giuliani wears a dress while stealing airport luggage...well, that becomes part of the story. If Rudy Giuliani jerks off in a Sasha Baron Cohen film, conspires with Trump to set up slates of false electors, and helps stage a mob attack on the U.S. Congress in order to steal a U.S. Presidential election, does that become a story? If he wears a dress while cavorting with Donald Trump...well, is that part of the story? And why do you and your MAGA-verse associates have no interest in those major Rudy Giuliani stories, while posting about a Biden official who stole luggage? Stealing airport luggage while on camera is a laughably tacky crime. I wonder if the luggage thief in question should be entrusted to run an important federal program. The Biden Administration, so far, appears to have no such reservations. So, using your luggage logic, should a man who conspires to steal a U.S. Presidential election be entrusted to run the Executive branch of the U.S. government? Did the Trump administration have any reservations about their criminal conduct in those affairs of state? I think the contents of the Hunter Biden laptop are a story, and I care little that HB appears to be a heterosexual white male, who dresses the way most white heterosexual males dress. So, then, is Jared Kushner's $2 billion dollar Saudi bribe a story-- given that Kushner was working for the U.S. government, in charge of Trump's Middle East policy, at the time, whereas Hunter Biden is not even a government official? In other words, why is Hunter Biden's sex life a story, and Jared Kushner's $2 billion dollar bribe isn't? Explain your MAGA "logic."

Very important thread here. It reminded me of an article that caught my eye back in 2007.* It's one reason I have never considered Wikipedia to be a reliable source of information about military or intelligence ops, as I told David Lifton in a discussion he and I had earlier this year about 9/11. *CIA, FBI computers used for Wikipedia edits https://www.reuters.com/article/us-security-wikipedia-idUSN1642896020070816 August 16, 2007 WASHINGTON (Reuters) - People using CIA and FBI computers have edited entries in the online encyclopedia Wikipedia on topics including the Iraq war and the Guantanamo prison, according to a new tracing program. The changes may violate Wikipedia’s conflict-of-interest guidelines, a spokeswoman for the site said on Thursday. The program, WikiScanner, was developed by Virgil Griffith of the Santa Fe Institute in New Mexico and posted this month on a Web site that was quickly overwhelmed with searches. The program allows users to track the source of computers used to make changes to the popular Internet encyclopedia where anyone can submit and edit entries. WikiScanner revealed that CIA computers were used to edit an entry on the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003. A graphic on casualties was edited to add that many figures were estimated and were not broken down by class. Another entry on former CIA chief William Colby was edited by CIA computers to expand his career history and discuss the merits of a Vietnam War rural pacification program that he headed. Aerial and satellite images of the U.S. prison for terrorism suspects at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, were removed using a computer traced to the FBI, WikiScanner showed. CIA spokesman George Little said he could not confirm whether CIA computers were used in the changes, adding that “the agency always expects its computer systems to be used responsibly.” The FBI did not have an immediate response. Computers at numerous other organizations and companies were found to have been involved in editing articles related to them. Griffith said he developed WikiScanner “to create minor public relations disasters for companies and organizations I dislike (and) to see what ‘interesting organizations’ (which I am neutral towards) are up to.” It was not known whether changes were made by an official representative of an agency or company, Griffith said, but it was certain the change was made by someone with access to the organization’s network. It violates Wikipedia’s neutrality guidelines for a person with close ties to an issue to contribute to an entry about it, said spokeswoman Sandy Ordonez of the Wikimedia Foundation, Wikipedia’s parent organization. However, she said, “Wikipedia is self-correcting,” meaning misleading entries can be quickly revised by another editor. She said Wikimedia welcomed the WikiScanner.

Do Benjamin Cole and the guys from the MAGA-verse know that Donald Trump's Stop-the-Steal/J6 coup co-conspirator, Rudy Giuliani, is a cross-dresser? Did Fox News cover that story, fellas? It's one thing for a cross-dressing kleptomaniac to steal people's luggage at airports. It's another matter for a President's cross-dressing attorney to steal an election... 🤥

What utter bunk, Ben. Thanks for slinging more MAGA merde on the wall. But this won't stick, like most of your...uh...theses... If Sinema hates both parties, why did she run as a Democrat and get elected by Democrats-- before betraying her constituents and serving as a corporate lobbyist? She's, basically, an unprincipled traitor, working for the plutocrats and their pachyderms.

So, Bill, you're still struggling with the law of conservation of momentum, eh? Do you think it was just a kooky Newtonian conspiracy theory?

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