Robin Unger Posted October 24, 2008 Author Share Posted October 24, 2008 (edited) Ten years ago I did this vanishing point analysis of the bench photo.I suggest that the photo is not kosher. Jack Scan of the bench area. Edited October 24, 2008 by Robin Unger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted October 24, 2008 Author Share Posted October 24, 2008 (edited) Chris Davidson's Muchmore "GIF" showing the " Running Man " It was a bit dark originally so i have lightened it. The guy in the red top seems to do a little dance, as he pans his hands and shuffles to his right. Edited October 24, 2008 by Robin Unger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted October 24, 2008 Author Share Posted October 24, 2008 Lee Forman photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernice Moore Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 (edited) deleted Edited October 25, 2008 by Bernice Moore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernice Moore Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 (edited) No Jack, it does not appear to correspond, am hoping Robin will do the comparison, butfrom a quick look, I agree........ I have been looking at the width of the wall that faced Elm St.... All I get is another.......? and what else is new...whenever one gets into the Plaza.. Have a look, does it appear to you, to be not as wide now, than it was in 63 ??..... Or..? Thanks B.... ************************** Jack , All....... The above photo that I posted whereby it was dated Dec.23/63.........IS IN ERROR....... The photo is from the Secret Service and was taken on Nov.27 th, 1963...... Sean Murphy's page Lancer.. SS photos taken 11/27/63.........page 1. Sean posted Sean Murphy Mon Oct-13-08 05:15 PM Member since Mar 25th 2007 770 posts #76293, "RE: Where was Gordon?" In response to Reply # 0 FWIW: The stills below are taken from the Secret Service film of 11/27/63. http://216.122.129.112/dc/dcboard.php?az=s...mp;topic_page=1 Enlargement by Robin at La on page 2.. http://216.122.129.112/dc/dcboard.php?az=s...mp;topic_page=2 Thanks to Sean for making this photo available.... I apologize for the confusion.......it had been sent to me with the error of the date within.... I further checked , this evening....and it lead to the Lancer thread... If you check the links that lead to the Lancer Forum, you will see the correct date..from the Secret Service posted by Sean.. November 27/63..... Thanks B...... ********************** Corrected information...... post # 88..... http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...mp;#entry156820 The photo below was Taken November 27th, 1963.....B........ Edited October 25, 2008 by Bernice Moore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted October 25, 2008 Author Share Posted October 25, 2008 No Jack, it does not appear to correspond, am hoping Robin will do the comparison, butfrom a quick look, I agree........ I have been looking at the width of the wall that faced Elm St.... All I get is another.......? and what else is new...whenever one gets into the Plaza.. Have a look, does it appear to you, to be not as wide now, than it was in 63 ??..... Or..? Thanks B.... ************************** Jack , All....... The above photo that I posted whereby it was dated Dec.23/63.........IS IN ERROR....... The photo is from the Secret Service and was taken on Nov.27 th, 1963...... Sean Murphy's page Lancer.. SS photos taken 11/27/63.........page 1. Sean posted Sean Murphy Mon Oct-13-08 05:15 PM Member since Mar 25th 2007 770 posts #76293, "RE: Where was Gordon?" In response to Reply # 0 FWIW: The stills below are taken from the Secret Service film of 11/27/63. http://216.122.129.112/dc/dcboard.php?az=s...mp;topic_page=1 Enlargement by Robin at La on page 2.. http://216.122.129.112/dc/dcboard.php?az=s...mp;topic_page=2 Thanks to Sean for making this photo available.... I apologize for the confusion.......it had been sent to me with the error of the date within.... I further checked , this evening....and it lead to the Lancer thread... If you check the links that lead to the Lancer Forum, you will see the correct date..from the Secret Service posted by Sean.. November 27/63..... Thanks B...... ********************** Corrected information...... post # 88..... http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...mp;#entry156820 The photo below was Taken November 27th, 1963.....B........ Thanks Bernice. I thought that your image looked familiar, i have now corrected the date on my comparison post above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Ten years ago I did this vanishing point analysis of the bench photo.I suggest that the photo is not kosher. Jack There is obviously something wrong with the perspective in the "bench" photo. I am surprised it drew no discussion. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted October 25, 2008 Author Share Posted October 25, 2008 Ten years ago I did this vanishing point analysis of the bench photo.I suggest that the photo is not kosher. Jack There is obviously something wrong with the perspective in the "bench" photo. I am surprised it drew no discussion. Jack Hi Jack To be honest i'm not sure what i am supposed to be looking for in the image. I am not familiar with the " Vanishing point" concept. Robin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Davidson Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Ten years ago I did this vanishing point analysis of the bench photo.I suggest that the photo is not kosher. Jack There is obviously something wrong with the perspective in the "bench" photo. I am surprised it drew no discussion. Jack Jack, Changed aspect ratio and tilted 2 degrees CCW to get it this close. Could parallax be causing the differences? chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted October 25, 2008 Author Share Posted October 25, 2008 (edited) Ten years ago I did this vanishing point analysis of the bench photo.I suggest that the photo is not kosher. Jack There is obviously something wrong with the perspective in the "bench" photo. I am surprised it drew no discussion. Jack Jack, Changed aspect ratio and tilted 2 degrees CCW to get it this close. Could parallax be causing the differences? chris Thanks Chris. Interesting animation. i have been sitting here staring at it for 10-minutes. I did note that the top of the records building does not seem to be well defined in the B&W bench image. Edited October 25, 2008 by Robin Unger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted October 25, 2008 Author Share Posted October 25, 2008 (edited) Using tree trunk for reference: This Lee Forman photo seems to correspond to the same angle as the B&W bench photo above. I used the tree trunk against the Records Building facade, to alighn the camera angle. Edited October 25, 2008 by Robin Unger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted October 25, 2008 Author Share Posted October 25, 2008 (edited) Regarding how the deep shadows from the trees may have effected the appearance of Blackdog. The image below contains a few questions. Credit: Lee Forman. A modern day photo showing how deep into the corner of the wall the blackness descends. How much taller are the trees today than they were in 1963. ? Edited October 25, 2008 by Robin Unger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Using tree trunk for reference:This Lee Forman photo seems to correspond to the same angle as the B&W bench photo above. I used the tree trunk against the Records Building facade, to alighn the camera angle. Thanks, Robin...I had forgotten that I resolved that issue years ago...it was the SHADOW of the building, not the building. My memory took a wrong turn on that one! Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted October 26, 2008 Author Share Posted October 26, 2008 Using tree trunk for reference:This Lee Forman photo seems to correspond to the same angle as the B&W bench photo above. I used the tree trunk against the Records Building facade, to alighn the camera angle. Thanks, Robin...I had forgotten that I resolved that issue years ago...it was the SHADOW of the building, not the building. My memory took a wrong turn on that one! Jack No problem Jack. Robin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 What is the point of comparing a good copy with a crappy copy? Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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