Joseph McBride Posted March 25, 2016 Author Share Posted March 25, 2016 That I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Hancock Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 There are no photographs to document exactly how it went down but it appears that at that point Cesar was doing security duty in the waiting area right behind the stage, there were people in the service hall which went past several meeting rooms and also connected into the kitchen. Those people were beyond a set of pantry doors which blocked access from the kitchen/service corridor to the area behind the stage. When RFK stepped down from the stage and into the corridor, Cesar began guiding him back down the corridor - which RFK had used to enter the stage area, avoiding crowds. The corridor provided access to a meeting room designated for the press and RFK was on his way there. Some of his aides apparently thought he would attempt to move there through the huge crowd in the ballroom but RFK had wanted to avoid that crowd coming in to speak. In any event, Cesar was leading RFK through the pantry doors, even holding him by the arm and steering him through the people trying to get RFK to stop and talk in the service corridor (as he had done on his way in). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Walton Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 There are no photographs to document exactly how it went down but it appears that at that point Cesar was doing security duty in the waiting area right behind the stage, there were people in the service hall which went past several meeting rooms and also connected into the kitchen. Those people were beyond a set of pantry doors which blocked access from the kitchen/service corridor to the area behind the stage. When RFK stepped down from the stage and into the corridor, Cesar began guiding him back down the corridor - which RFK had used to enter the stage area, avoiding crowds. The corridor provided access to a meeting room designated for the press and RFK was on his way there. Some of his aides apparently thought he would attempt to move there through the huge crowd in the ballroom but RFK had wanted to avoid that crowd coming in to speak. In any event, Cesar was leading RFK through the pantry doors, even holding him by the arm and steering him through the people trying to get RFK to stop and talk in the service corridor (as he had done on his way in). Thank you, Larry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 By all indications from the time Kennedy exited and left the podium, to the time they entered the pantry area, Cesar made up some significant ground to get to Kennedy. There is little doubt that he was the person closest to RFK at the time of the assasination. The guy had powder burns on his face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ecker Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Wasn't there an eyewitness TV news reporter who said on the scene "He shot him" or "He drew his gun and shot him" (I'm not sure which), apparently meaning Cesar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ecker Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 The reporter was Don Schulman. He didn't say he shot him, he said he saw Cesar draw his gun (which Cesar admitted) and that he may have fired back at Sirhan (yeah, right). He said he also saw other guns in the pantry. Larry has written about it: http://www.maryferrell.org/pages/Essay_-_Incomplete_Justice_-_No_there_were_no_other_guns.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Walton Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 By all indications from the time Kennedy exited and left the podium, to the time they entered the pantry area, Cesar made up some significant ground to get to Kennedy. There is little doubt that he was the person closest to RFK at the time of the assasination. The guy had powder burns on his face. Thank you, Jim. Do you have a link about the powder burns? I'd love to read about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Walton Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 The reporter was Don Schulman. He didn't say he shot him, he said he saw Cesar draw his gun (which Cesar admitted) and that he may have fired back at Sirhan (yeah, right). He said he also saw other guns in the pantry. Larry has written about it: http://www.maryferrell.org/pages/Essay_-_Incomplete_Justice_-_No_there_were_no_other_guns.html Thanks for the link, Ron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Hancock Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Michael, you will find considerable detail in my RFK essays on the Mary Ferrell site. They also contain some excellent graphics done by Sherry Feister - based from scans of police sketches and diagrams of the Ambassador hotel. https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/Robert_Kennedy_Assassination.html The material is in the Incomplete Justice essay series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Walton Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Michael, you will find considerable detail in my RFK essays on the Mary Ferrell site. They also contain some excellent graphics done by Sherry Feister - based from scans of police sketches and diagrams of the Ambassador hotel. https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/Robert_Kennedy_Assassination.html The material is in the Incomplete Justice essay series Thanks I'll check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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