Michael Clark Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 22 hours ago, Paul Brancato said: I find this logic reasonable. But we’ve had two + years of Trump. What do you think now? I hate him. That said, as far as OUR cause is concerned, his presidency is our only hope. WE are squandering our our only opportunity because of our (legitimate) contempt for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Brancato Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Michael Clark said: I hate him. That said, as far as OUR cause is concerned, his presidency is our only hope. WE are squandering our our only opportunity because of our (legitimate) contempt for him. Michael - please help me understand your post. Who is WE? What is OUR cause? Edited May 3, 2019 by Paul Brancato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Clark Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 21 hours ago, Sandy Larsen said: I'm not so sure about that. The alternative was Bernie Sanders and, while I think he would make a fantastic president, I also think there remains an awful lot of voters who fear the "socialist" label and so wouldn't have voted for him. HRC isn't as bad as a lot of people say she is. (In fact she is highly qualified.) She was unfairly painted as evil by the conservative media, and low-information voters fell for it; she wasn't liberal enough for those on the far left and they also painted her as evil; her October Surprise didn't help any. And then finally we discover that there are apparently a lot of voters who don't care if their president is a l-y-i-n-g, hating, buffoon as long as he's not a Washington politician. Makes no sense to me. I don’t think an avowed socialist could or would be elected to the presidency, so I don’t think he is a legitimate candidate for a mainstream party. My view of HRC is nuanced. I think she would have made an excellent President. But, and I can’t expires how dismayed that I am so utterly alone on this, dynastic power is absolutely, positively, expialodociusly unacceptable; It is the end of everything for which America exists. I honestly would rather forgot Independence from Britain and become a subject of the crown than see Clinton, Bush and Trump familes cycle for power until one finally wins and rules for the next several centuries. Further, and thus the nuance, I am not so sure that the Clintons aren’t part of the club that WE, HERE, are trying to identify and ferret-out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Clark Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, Paul Brancato said: Michael - please help me understand your post. Who is WE? What is OUR cause? That would be us, here at the EF, the JFKA conspiracy community. Trump could, and would, I think (if he had enough support) bust all of this crap wide open. I remember him saying, and it struck me as the most candid, uncharacteristic, and probably painful thing I ever heard him say... ( to be sure, I only read this, as a quote) “I have no choice” when he had to delay the comtinued release of JFKA documents, and accept that releases in redected form. I joined this forum after his election and prior to his inauguration. I haven’t changed how I feel about him, nor have I changed what he could do for us. We, however, due to our contempt and anger at the results of the election (and I am less angry due to my fears of dynastic power) cannot see that he is OUR only possible ally. Trump is no conservative, he doesn’t even think in such terms. He is a moral, fiscal and social liberal. How many of his children for whom do you think has has payed for the abortion? He wants to be loved and adored by crowds. There is no conservative principle guiding him or his followers. His base just hates Hillary, hippies and wants to justify their own existence by affirming the life they have lived which was shaped by Howard Stern. The shameful and disgusting mantra, which is affirmed and lauded by Trump and Stern, “FHRITP”, “I can get away with grabbing.....” (or whateve he said) is a reflection of a generation of men who are absolved by Trump, and can never and never will look at themselves and say “ugh, I was wrong. I was disgusting. I need to change”. Our culture has sunk very low, and just because Trump is a Republican does not mean that he is a Conservative; in fact, that is absurd to think that way. All these terms have been thrown on their heads. Those who have disgust for Trump are the conservatives. Those who feel shame for the plight of women are conservatives. The “me too” movement is conservative. Revolution is painful. We are in the midst of a revolution of pardimgms, language, words, terminology and nomenclature. Trump is a liberal, but he is not Hillary, that is what got him elected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Clark Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 6 hours ago, Douglas Caddy said: The Curious Case of William P. Barr https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmmhzmhouic&fbclid=IwAR2HACLaqpKnzzcqrfy2otf8ijgHNfHB5pFYThfRC4zCnCfoDy6-jV6I9xs That’s great, Michael. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Clark Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, Robert Wheeler said: Olliver North did not seek a second term to head the NRA. I think Ollie is becoming unglued. The bones of William Barr showing-up Behind the closet door might be a bit too much for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Clark Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Meet Attorney General William Barr. (Thanks, Mr. Caddy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Brancato Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 13 minutes ago, Robert Wheeler said: How about that Stefan Halper trading card? You know Halper, he was the last entry in Ollie Norths daily planner back in the Iran Contra days. The same guy who founded Palmer Bank with a loan from Bush pal Herman Beebe (see Spartacus). Come on Paul, Stefan Halper. He was just in the news today. George Papodaupolus just said Halper tried to set him up with a Turkish honeypot. Olliver North did not seek a second term to head the NRA. Trump derangement syndrome in this thread prevents any appreciation of the significance of Ollie’s decision. What’s your theory? North’s decision somehow related to Halper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Robert Wheeler said: This quote is from Michael Clark (5/2-10:42:PM:ET). The quote is relevant to your question. Keep in mind, that I am well aware that Michael does not like Trump, either on a political policy basis or a personal behavior basis. Michael may have other issues with Trump, from the serious to the petty. Although I may disagree with Michael about policy and personal issues as they relate to Trump, he does identify the over-arching issue in the quote. The "club" is a very useful analogy. Michael posits the Clintons are in the club. Michael is free to chime in to describe his version of what he thinks the club is. Prescott Bush was a protege of W. Averell Harriman. Brown Brothers Harriman bank/Skull & Bones. I suspect George HW Bush moved dope for Harriman thru Zapata Off-shore. I suspect (but cannot prove) Harriman pushed the button on JFK in the furtherance of a conspiracy to develop a SE Asia-to-Havana-to-the-US heroin pipeline. After Harriman died in 1986 his wife Pamela Churchill Harriman dumped a big chunk of the family fortune on Democratic candidates. Bill Clinton got a ton. THE WOMAN BEHIND CLINTON IS NOT HILLARY http://www.apfn.net/dcia/woman.html For 20 years after his death Harriman proteges occupied the White House. Quote I would say that the club, at a minimum consists of the Bush Family and its associates and the Clinton Family and its associates. This would consist of business interests, loyal or entrenched government appointees and employees and a variety of associates who owe their livelihood (or lives) to staying in the Clubs good graces. Some might call the "club" the "deep state." (If the Club consists of the Bush Family at a minimum, consider how old the Club must be. Think before 1963.) Believe it or not, and I think Michael Clark understands, Trump is not part of the Club. But he so so so badly wants to be! Trump's given "the club" the two things most prized -- tax cuts for Wall St. and high ratings for the TV networks. There is a deep concern about Trump's fitness for the job that transcends ideology. That's what you Trump heads can't get -- people want Trump out because he's dangerously unfit for the gig. As much as Trump craves the approval of "the club" his grip on power depends on pandering to theocratic fascists -- a "club" I find far more odious than the one that whacked Jack. Edited May 3, 2019 by Cliff Varnell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ness Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 45 minutes ago, Cliff Varnell said: There is a deep concern about Trump's fitness for the job that transcends ideology. That's what you Trump heads can't get -- people want Trump out because he's dangerously unfit for the gig. That is correct, sir. That and his unforgivable TV show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted May 3, 2019 Author Share Posted May 3, 2019 The U.S. Supreme Court in Jurney v. MacCracken created the precedent under which Attorney General Barr can be held in contempt of Congress and arrested for failure to deliver to Congress the full and unredacted Mueller Report. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jurney_v._MacCracken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted May 3, 2019 Author Share Posted May 3, 2019 (edited) When I joined the Education Forum in 2006, an unknown member posted a profile photo of me before I had a chance to do so. I never changed it although I felt it hardly resembled me. So here is a photo of me taken on April 5, 2019, just after I turned 81 years old. I am joined in the photo by Facebook friend Jason Reese of Washington, D.C., who is knowledgeable on both Watergate and the JFK assassination, and who kindly stopped by in Houston to visit me after attending a ceremony at the George H.W. Bush Presidential Library at Texas A&M University in Collage Station at which a new U.S. Postal Service stamp of George H. W. Bush was unveiled. Edited May 4, 2019 by Douglas Caddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Brancato Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Can you change your photo? This one is nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted May 3, 2019 Author Share Posted May 3, 2019 The Coming Subpoena Fights Between Trump and Congress, Explained https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/02/us/politics/subpoenas-trump-congress.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Brancato Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Robert Wheeler said: Eric Holder created the precedent under which Attorney General Barr can ignore a charge by Congress for contempt. https://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/29/us/politics/fast-and-furious-holder-contempt-citation-battle.html Didn’t Holder lose that case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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