Cliff Varnell Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Dale Thorn said: This was good for 16-y.o.'s, sometime last century. The same could be said of the Beatles. There are those of us who love rock 'n roll -- and those who don't. Since you don't know the difference between "Socialism" and "Communism" -- who cares what you think? Edited May 26, 2019 by Cliff Varnell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dale Thorn Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 30 minutes ago, Cliff Varnell said: The same could be said of the Beatles. There are those of us who love rock 'n roll -- and those who don't. Since you don't know the difference between "Socialism" and "Communism" -- who cares what you think? THIS is what you actually entered (and the forum forwarded it to me) before you EDITED your post: "You're one of the most hate-filled individuals I've ever had the displeasure of encountering on-line." And so as we see, you're the demon that you like to pretend that I am. I'm a follower of Jesus - not perfect, not righteous, but still trying. What's your excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, Dale Thorn said: THIS is what you actually entered (and the forum forwarded it to me) before you EDITED your post: "You're one of the most hate-filled individuals I've ever had the displeasure of encountering on-line." And so as we see, you're the demon that you like to pretend that I am. I'm a follower of Jesus - not perfect, not righteous, but still trying. What's your excuse. You're one of the most hate-filled individuals I've ever had the displeasure of encountering on-line. Anyone who celebrates the forced separation of children from their parents is among the lowest form of scum on Earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dale Thorn Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Cliff Varnell said: You're one of the most hate-filled individuals I've ever had the displeasure of encountering on-line. Anyone who celebrates the forced separation of children from their parents is among the lowest form of scum on Earth. As is usual for you, you're lying again, just like the hateful Pharisee you are. Nowhere, under any conditions except certified abuse, have I recommended or supported separating children from their real parents or legal guardians. EDIT: You're not even good at trolling. Just another angry middle-aged man from la-la land. Edited May 26, 2019 by Dale Thorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, Dale Thorn said: As is usual for you, you're lying again, just like the hateful Pharisee you are. Nowhere, under any conditions except certified abuse, have I recommended or supported separating children from their real parents or legal guardians. You described Trump as "saintly" and claimed he's done "no evil." You endorse his works -- you endorse tearing babies from the arms of their mothers. Live with it. 8 minutes ago, Dale Thorn said: EDIT: You're not even good at trolling. Just another angry middle-aged man from la-la land. Anyone who says they don't care about food stamps is not a follower of Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dale Thorn Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Cliff Varnell said: You described Trump as "saintly" and claimed he's done "no evil." You endorse his works -- you endorse tearing babies from the arms of their mothers. Live with it. Anyone who says they don't care about food stamps is not a follower of Jesus. Trump IS a saint. You ARE a xxxx. You deal with it, xxxxx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Clark Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 11 hours ago, Dale Thorn said: Trump IS a saint. You ARE a xxxx. You deal with it, xxxxx. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dale Thorn Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 14 hours ago, Cliff Varnell said: You described Trump as "saintly" and claimed he's done "no evil." You endorse his works -- you endorse tearing babies from the arms of their mothers. Live with it. Anyone who says they don't care about food stamps is not a follower of Jesus. Food stamps are government issued. The same government who raped and pillaged Africa and murdered some of its great leaders (Lumumba, Khadafi, etc. The same government Ramsey Clark condemned for the Highway of Death. The same government who gave us The Mighty Wurlitzer, Operation Northwoods, the JFK coverup, and an endless array of CIA treasons. By endorsing government as the benefactor of food, you also endorse them as the provider of human rights. When God (representing the principle of permanent versus arbitrary) is removed as the guarantor of rights and government inserted instead, you merely line up with fascists and communists. The shoe fits. Wear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Larsen Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Dale Thorn said: 17 hours ago, Cliff Varnell said: Anyone who says they don't care about food stamps is not a follower of Jesus. Food stamps are government issued. The same government who raped and pillaged Africa and murdered some of its great leaders (Lumumba, Khadafi, etc. The same government Ramsey Clark condemned for the Highway of Death. The same government who gave us The Mighty Wurlitzer, Operation Northwoods, the JFK coverup, and an endless array of CIA treasons. It was primarily those on the far right who were behind those murderous acts. And it is primarily those on the left who advocate food stamps for the poor. Your lumping the two together is a convenient way to demonize food stamps. Quote By endorsing government as the benefactor of food, you also endorse them as the provider of human rights. When God (representing the principle of permanent versus arbitrary) is removed as the guarantor of rights and government inserted instead, you merely line up with fascists and communists. Wow, you really are a theocracy supporter. I don't recall Jesus ever saying that governments should be run by theocrats. BTW, how do you suggest God be inserted into the government? How would that work? And whose god should be inserted? Edited May 27, 2019 by Sandy Larsen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dale Thorn Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 3 hours ago, Sandy Larsen said: It was primarily those on the far right who were behind those murderous acts. And it is primarily those on the left who advocate food stamps for the poor. Your lumping the two together is a convenient way to demonize food stamps. Wow, you really are a theocracy supporter. I don't recall Jesus ever saying that governments should be run by theocrats. BTW, how do you suggest God be inserted into the government? How would that work? And whose god should be inserted? Far Right? Umm, no. The 20th century witnessed 150 million or more murdered by Socialists. Even the Nazis were socialist. You People on the Left are always blaming the wrong people. As far as God being inserted into government is concerned, it was already done by the time the U.S. became a nation, under a constitution. You know where to look, but I'm guessing you're in denial (Leftist denial). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dale Thorn Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Kathy Beckett said: Funny, I don't recall Jesus ever forcing his will on anyone. It worked in the days of a theocracy for the Hebrews. But America was founded on separation of church and state. And, if i must say so, I have seen more hate from the Evangelicals that from any other group professing to love Jesus. It shocks me. Jesus always said "Come", not "You have to do this" . “Come to me, all of you who are weary and carry heavy burdens, and I will give you rest" Matt 11:28 "And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely." Rev 22:17 Sandy, you asked I bet I know--They are going to say: prayer in schools and 10 commandments. Both forced upon you. Again. Jesus doesn't force. Why would God want forced prayer? We don't like forced admiration. Why would He? You deny the history of the U.S. completely. Surely you could separate the good from the bad, but instead you use the disinformation of over-simplification. BTW, where did you find "separation of church and state"? I see only one stipulation, and that is the Constitutional statement that there can be no religious test for government office. Edited May 27, 2019 by Dale Thorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Clark Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 21 minutes ago, Dale Thorn said: You deny the history of the U.S. completely. Surely you could separate the good from the bad, but instead you use the disinformation of over-simplification. BTW, where did you find "separation of church and state"? I see only one stipulation, and that is the Constitutional statement that there can be no religious test for government office. First Amendment - U.S. Constitution First Amendment - Religion and Expression Amendment Text | Annotations Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dale Thorn Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 20 minutes ago, Michael Clark said: First Amendment - U.S. Constitution First Amendment - Religion and Expression Amendment Text | Annotations Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. This is all well and good, except that since monopoly laws are no longer being enforced, the First Amendment is in the iron grip of Facebook, Twitter, Google, CNN et al, and they are not only expert at controlling the masses' minds, they even employ military psyops and disinformation specialists to control the public narrative. https://www.counterpunch.org/2000/03/26/cnn-and-psyops/ https://www.wnd.com/2000/03/4056/ https://www.projectcensored.org/3-us-armys-psychological-operations-personnel-worked-at-cnn/ To be perfectly honest, the damage done to the First Amendment - not only by major "news" corporations, but by Leftist college boards and tenured professors and staff all over the U.S. - is probably beyond repair, short of a revolution that breaks all of it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Clark Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Dale Thorn said: This is all well and good, except that since monopoly laws are no longer being enforced, the First Amendment is in the iron grip of Facebook, Twitter, Google, CNN et al, and they are not only expert at controlling the masses' minds, they even employ military psyops and disinformation specialists to control the public narrative. https://www.counterpunch.org/2000/03/26/cnn-and-psyops/ https://www.wnd.com/2000/03/4056/ https://www.projectcensored.org/3-us-armys-psychological-operations-personnel-worked-at-cnn/ To be perfectly honest, the damage done to the First Amendment - not only by major "news" corporations, but by Leftist college boards and tenured professors and staff all over the U.S. - is probably beyond repair, short of a revolution that breaks all of it up. Dale, That is a failed distraction to your comment: 48 minutes ago, Dale Thorn said: .... BTW, where did you find "separation of church and state"? I see only one stipulation, and that is the Constitutional statement that there can be no religious test for government office. Again: First Amendment - U.S. Constitution First Amendment - Religion and Expression Amendment Text | Annotations Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Clark Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, Dale Thorn said: This is all well and good, except that since monopoly laws are no longer being enforced, the First Amendment is in the iron grip of Facebook, Twitter, Google, CNN et al, and they are not only expert at controlling the masses' minds, they even employ military psyops and disinformation specialists to control the public narrative. https://www.counterpunch.org/2000/03/26/cnn-and-psyops/ https://www.wnd.com/2000/03/4056/ https://www.projectcensored.org/3-us-armys-psychological-operations-personnel-worked-at-cnn/ To be perfectly honest, the damage done to the First Amendment - not only by major "news" corporations, but by Leftist college boards and tenured professors and staff all over the U.S. - is probably beyond repair, short of a revolution that breaks all of it up. That’s scary, you long for a violent purge of intellectualism. Kappo: Do you have a degree? Citizen: Yes Kappo: Kill him. Dale: Sure thing, boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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