Attorney's file on Roger Stone, LaRouche and Russia influencing the 2016 presidential election

[Cliff Varnell]

1 hour ago, Robert Wheeler said:

I'm going to interpret that statement as an admission that you are working for Share Blue or similar type media manipulator.

I'm going to interpret that comment as an admission you are hella gullible.

 

[Paul Brancato]

43 minutes ago, Cliff Varnell said:

I'm going to interpret that comment as an admission you are hella gullible.

 

Methinks Mr. Wheeler doth protest too much. Very ‘1984’ of him to accuse you of working for some media manipulator. Turn everything on it’s head.

[Michael Clark]

This thread is now about forum members and how witty they can be. It’s worthless. Shut it down or move it where it is not a showcase; the principals will quickly lose interest.

[Cliff Varnell]

58 minutes ago, Robert Wheeler said:

So you are saying my NY Jets are not going to the Superbowl for the first time since 1969 this year, even though owner Woody Johnson said they would?

The Oakland Raiders are going to win the next Superbowl.

I say that every year...for a little while...

[Cliff Varnell]

1 hour ago, Paul Brancato said:

Methinks Mr. Wheeler doth protest too much. Very ‘1984’ of him to accuse you of working for some media manipulator. Turn everything on it’s head.

Could be generational. 

For old guys like us it's a stock line -- "keeps me off the streets" is another way of saying "keeps me out of trouble."

[Douglas Caddy]

The U.S. ambassador to Ukraine is abruptly leaving her post following a concerted effort by Rudy Giuliani and Trump’s media allies to connect Yovanovitch to a wide-ranging conspiracy theory involving Hillary Clinton, Paul Manafort, and Joe Biden’s work in Ukraine.

 

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/05/donald-trump-fox-news-us-ambassdor-ukraine-masha-yovanovitch?verso=true&fbclid=IwAR00655QOw0g88dvPW9g6T_dvlwbkg-kpzLobr5os2vtmbSes5c-3a84l64

[Douglas Caddy]

Roger Stone was being investigated by Mueller for far more crimes than he now faces charges for, attorneys say

 

 

By Katelyn Polantz, CNN

Updated 8:55 PM ET, Fri May 10, 2019

From the article: The "FBI was investigating various crimes at different times, such as Stone for accessory after the fact, misprision of a felony, conspiracy, false statements, unauthorized access of a protected computer, obstruction of justice, witness tampering, wire fraud, attempt and conspiracy to commit wire fraud, and foreign contributions ban," Stone's attorneys wrote in a filing in his federal criminal case on Friday, citing search warrants that are still secret.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/10/politics/roger-stone-mueller-crimes/index.html

[Kirk Gallaway]

2 hours ago, Paul Brancato said:

Methinks Mr. Wheeler doth protest too much. Very ‘1984’ of him to accuse you of working for some media manipulator. Turn everything on it’s head.

Now you see with Robert's accusations about another member of this forum, how tenuous his premises are, and really paranoid his desire to allege conspiracy truly is. 

Edited May 11, 2019 by Kirk Gallaway

[Douglas Caddy]

Report from LaRouche Pac on Roger Stone court filing

https://larouchepac.com/20190511/blockbuster-roger-stone-swings-fences-court-filings-seeks-prove-russians-did-not-hack-dnc?fbclid=IwAR3SFijRGRq7jSSu9kTZlBwR4AgxAZz_bHfXgbHAojsDski7EmAUeUxd16A

 

[Douglas Caddy]

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/13/us/politics/russia-investigation-justice-department-review.html

 

Barr assigns Conn. prosecutor to investigate origins of Russia probe

[Cliff Varnell]

 

[Paul Bacon]

3 hours ago, Robert Wheeler said:

The Kavalec Memo Puts the Nail in the FBI's Coffin - (headline mine.)

John Solomon reported last week that,

"Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Kathleen Kavalec’s written account of her Oct. 11, 2016, meeting with FBI informant Christopher Steele shows the Hillary Clinton campaign-funded British intelligence operative admitted that his research was political and facing an Election Day deadline."

Additional background and context about the Solomon article:

• The meeting between Kavalec and Steele occurred 10 days before the FBI used the Steele Dossier to justify the securing of a FISA warrant to surveil Carter Page.
• The meeting was an effort to "rinse" Steele through State Department channels (ie. allow the FBI to point to Kavalec's independent assessment of the veracity of Steele's statements and motivations prior to submitting the Carter Page FISA warrant applications (under oath) to the FISA Court.)
• The partially redacted memo, attached in the article, is written proof Steele's action were politically motivated.
• The memo is a second piece of evidence that the FBI knowingly submitted a tainted FISA application since Bruce Ohr had warned the FBI that the DOJ had misgivings about the veracity of Steele's statements.

Other and Subsequent Findings

• Kavalec did not apparently believe Steele. (According to Dan Bongino, Kavalec's hand written notes show that she was likely checking Steeles statements during the actual meeting because she made notes that Cohen never visited Prague, and the Russian Consulate in Miami, mentioned by Steele, does not exist.)
• The memo was not provided to the House last year.
• The memo was retroactively classified by the-FBI. Director Wray is more than likely, in very deep **it.
• The memo was not provided to the FBI Inspector General (Horowitz) who is conducting an investigation into FISA application misdeeds by the FBI.
  • Horowitz has already found 4 of the 5 (or 3 of 4) known FISA applications were submitted illegally.
  • This will make the FBI 5 for 5 (or 4 of 4.)

Reading Between the Lines

Aside from the evidence that shows that Steele was politically motivated and that the FBI lied to the FISA court, the mistakes and lies that Steele told Kavalec indicate that he was likely not the only author of the "Steele Dossier." That is, Steele can't seem to get his story straight because he is not the only author. This has been assumed for awhile as it is generally believed Nellie Ohr, under contract by Fusion GPS, wrote at least parts of the "Dossier."

Link to John Solomon Article.

 

Just a quick point here:  The Clinton campaign's action were politically motivated, NOT Steele's.  Steele's actions were FINANCIALLY motivated --he was paid to do a job.  He did that job, the FBI got his results and took it seriously-naturally-, and the rest is now history.

[James DiEugenio]

This is pretty insightful as to what Mueller has done to shape his inquiry and still get negative results.

Do not talk to anyone who will give you info that does not fit, or give them a right to defend themselves.  Accept the HRC paradigm originally established in 2016.  And do not hire your own forensic experts. 

And even with all that, the results are still weak porridge.  Well, maybe Roger Stone will be a geyser?

https://consortiumnews.com/2019/05/14/the-real-mueller-gate-scandal/

 

Edited May 14, 2019 by James DiEugenio

[Jeff Carter]

Stone’s legal filing on Friday was interesting: challenging the premise and legality of the search warrant used against him last January. The search warrant apparently implied Stone played an important role in a conspiracy run through Manafort using Russian state assets to hack and steal DNC emails, facilitate their delivery to Wikileaks, and coordinate their publication to exert maximum damage. Stone argues this narrative is false, and knowingly false on the part of the prosecution.

But even if Stone gets the search warrant retroactively squashed, it doesn’t help him evade his indictments because the evidence for his misstatements had already been obtained by other means.

The purpose of Stone’s legal filling appears to be less about his legal problems and more a challenge to Mueller’s overarching narrative in the hack vs leak controversy,  forcing the prosecution to lay out the evidence. If it goes through, this should help establish the extent to which the Crowdstrike forensics influenced or determined the prosecution’s premise. Close readings of the Mueller Report have convinced some people that the Crowdstrike data is almost the whole of the evidence.

Hack vs leak remains the central controversy. The irregularity of the FBI not examining DNC servers  and Mueller’s not interviewing key persons invites skepticism.

[James DiEugenio]

Well, Barr announced today he is going to investigate the origins of Russia Gate.

 

Should be interesting.