Did the Dallas Radical Right kill JFK?

[Jason Ward]

I've seen this basic report before today's release, and maybe even posted it here, but here it is again...

The extreme Left blames the extreme Right for the assassination and sees Oswald's communist persona as a doctored creation of the reactionaries:

 

 

 

[Jason Ward]

Some of Ruby's hookers drift through Ohio at various times, and there is an ultra right sect active in the Southern part of the state associated with General Walker; and some of 007 secret agent Ruth Paine's family is from Ohio --- even so the exceptionally large interest and intense canvassing of CIs in Ohio after the assassination remains largely a mystery afaik.  

 

What did Hoover think he might uncover in Ohio???

 

 

Edited October 27, 2017 by Jason Ward

[Roger DeLaria]

On 10/25/2017 at 7:04 PM, Jason Ward said:

Paul,

In my view perhaps the best way to understand J Edgar Hoover's role is by reading the communications of J Edgar Hoover.  They are voluminous.    

Most CTers pick and choose their favorite person or keyword and extract the evidence they want, without regard for the holistic view of Hoover's evident thought processes.   IMO you have to read the FBI communications from start to finish, in order.  Otherwise one's own biases are creeping in to the evidence observed if you start picking out keywords, very specific dates, locations, and so forth.   I say the bare minimum timeframe is a week - this is way too low, but by at least looking at 7 straight days of Hoover's communications, you get an insight into what was important, less important, a worry, an obsession, etc., at least for that week.

Once you look at FBI communications in consecutive order, in entirety, for a defined time period, a truer view of Hoover's objectives become clear, at least insofar as primary source evidence allows.   

If you read the the FBI internal communication traffic from mid November 1963, through the assassination, and immediately thereafter, the Radical Right is overhwhelmingly the boiling hot threat on Hoover's mind.  

The CPUSA is almost shut out of view during this critical period.  On d-day and for about the first 72 hours of organized panic thereafter, the FBI is laser focused on one topic and one topic alone - finding the known right wing extremists and documenting their whereabouts.  Hoover demands this.  Dozens of FBI field offices act on their own initiatve and after JFK is shot start an emergency program of forcing the vast network of Confidential Informants to 1. report immediately, and 2. report immediately on the local Radical Right.  From the Carolinas across to Texas this is largely a 3 pronged flash intelliegence drive against the KKK, John Birch Society, and the Minuteman.  In 100s of places the membership of these 3 groups overlap substantially.  Field offices start reporting to Hoover where their local right wingers were, what the CIs had heard about the right wingers, and who is unaccountable.

 

SUDDENLY

 

This stops.

 

Suddenly, the Oswald lone nut narrative is officially dogmatized across the FBI.   Suddenly, the Right Wing probe is cancelled, and what precious little there is about Oswald (almost nothing really, in view of 10000+ confidential paid informants around the world) becomes the enforced topic of the teletypes, airtels, registered letters, etc., between Hoover and the field.

...and again by reading consecutive communications, in order, from start to finish in a given time frame, the essential character of a large government beuraucracy is revealed when certain FBI field offices apparently didn't get the memo and still report on Walker and the Radical Right beyond Hoover's cut-off order - Hoover quickly rebukes them for not reading his earlier instructions to drop the Right and concentrate on Oswald.  

Below my signature is an example of FBI communications after the assassination.  These are just two of several hundred along these same lines that reveal on 22 November the FBI put out an emergency call to all CIs.  The order was: find the Right Wing extremists and tell us who among them was in Dallas.  The FBI doesn't suspect the commies, Oswald, the Cubans, the CIA, Bell Helicopter, nor the mafia - they are after the Radical Right.  Basically everyone I can see a record of in the FBI at this time instinctively pursues first and foremost the Right.  If you are correct about Walker and the Radical Right, these first gut feeling reactions of FBI SACs and residencies in the assassination aftermath may be the most important clues.  

This shows us where street level FBI agents assumed the assassination originated: 

 

Jason

 

 

 

Jason,

Many thanks for putting the time and effort into going through these documents, it is appreciated. I suspect in studying these papers, careful discernment and context is required.

 

[Jason Ward]

My thesis on the assassination will have a large part advancing my theory that Hoover's marginalia tells us flash insights in to the FBI director.  This handwritten material is almost entirely hidden by OCR-driven finding aids and electronic search tools so is among the least studied aspects of JFK evidence.

as JEH says...Watch out!

 

[Jason Ward]

1 minute ago, Roger DeLaria said:

Jason,

Many thanks for putting the time and effort into going through these documents, it is appreciated. I suspect in studying these papers, careful discernment and context is required.

 

95% of the documents are utter crap.

A lot of it is memos about other memos and about correcting file numbers and about following up on irrelevant housekeeping tasks; and, worst of all, a lot of it is the mindless obsession with Cubans.  Anyone who argues the CIA or FBI are anything but standard overbloated government bureaucracies has never looked at the evidence in bulk.  They don't do anything unless it's contemplated for months, documented 100 different ways, adorned with numerous file numbers and cross-headings, and largely repetitive because they forgot what they discussed 4 months ago when they first started discussing a topic.  Most of it is a big pile of dead tree matter that only the mindset of US government civil servants would or could create.

 

But, here and there, is a sliver of interest; and, very occasionally, there is a truly dynamite find.

 

Jason

 

[Jason Ward]

FBI agent Hosty is an intriguing character.

Unless the evidence around Hosty was specifically tagged as Kennedy-related by some government functionary at some point, all the Hosty stuff is just sitting pristinely unreleased in the National Archives, waiting for a real researcher to give us a real picture of what Hosty was up to during this period.

 

Jason

[Roger DeLaria]

3 minutes ago, Jason Ward said:

95% of the documents are utter crap.

A lot of it is memos about other memos and about correcting file numbers and about following up on irrelevant housekeeping tasks; and, worst of all, a lot of it is the mindless obsession with Cubans.  Anyone who argues the CIA or FBI are anything but standard overbloated government bureaucracies has never looked at the evidence in bulk.  They don't do anything unless it's contemplated for months, documented 100 different ways, adorned with numerous file numbers and cross-headings, and largely repetitive because they forgot what they discussed 4 months ago when they first started discussing a topic.  Most of it is a big pile of dead tree matter that only the mindset of US government civil servants would or could create.

 

But, here and there, is a sliver of interest; and, very occasionally, there is a truly dynamite find.

 

Jason

 

About as relevant as umpteen questions regarding Jack Ruby's mother's dental records. Bloat the files. Wheat vs. chaff.

[Jason Ward]

... toss a bone to the DeMohrenschildt disciples:

 

 

[Michael Clark]

Jason Said: My thesis on the assassination will have a large part advancing my theory that ......"

 

bla bla bla....

 

Just more Trejoistic prognostications...

Edited October 27, 2017 by Michael Clark

[Jason Ward]

There's lots of little avenues to explore like the mention below of Ray Edge.

Fine, so Edge (which may itself be a protective pseudonym) says he doesn't know Oswald or Ruby.  Neither do I.   But what is it about Ray Edge that causes the FBI to even ask him about Oswald and Ruby in November of 63????

I'm thinking anyone who the FBI imagines is in the same circles as Oswald and/or Ruby might be worth looking at further.

 

 

 

 

[Michael Clark]

2 minutes ago, Jason Ward said:

... toss a bone to the DeMohrenschildt disciples:

 

 

And the Phillidephia, G Gordon Liddy, Swathmore, Trump, Ruth Paine, CIA, connecciones'.

 

[Jason Ward]

One of the projects at the Mary Ferrell Foundation is to extrapolate data from the unmasked identities related to the CI numbers below and the CIA cryptonym system:

 

 

[Jason Ward]

Whoops!

Paul T - if the Radical Right and Walker killed Kennedy - what do you make of the various mafia clues like this?  

btw - note the date of the memo

[Michael Clark]

3 minutes ago, Jason Ward said:

One of the projects at the Mary Ferrell Foundation is to extrapolate data from the unmasked identities related to the CI numbers below and the CIA cryptonym system:

 

 

Jason,   So? 

[Jason Ward]

I've seen many CIA-as-omnipotent theorists here say they feel Mexico City is the key to unravelling the assassination.

Before, during, and, after the assassination, the CIA knows everything that's going on, and why, at the US, Soviet, and Cuban embassies, because all 3 are effectively CIA stations penetrated by double agents: