Edwin Walker

[Malcolm Ward]

Has anyone come across Kenneth Bennett Glaze,re Major General Edwin Walker.Apparently as a military intelliegence officer, he served with General Walker in Germany. Additionally Glaze was a master marksman who performed classified wet work. Also, he resided and worked within the Dallas-Fort Worth region.

Source:

http://www.lincoln-a...topic=53.0;wap2

Also he went missing in on August 23, 1963.They found his bones in December 1963.But not immediately identified.He died from gunshot wounds and was not identified till 42 years later.

Source:

http://suite101.com/...ade-idd-a377492

[Paul Trejo]

Has anyone come across Kenneth Bennett Glaze,re Major General Edwin Walker.Apparently as a military intelliegence officer, he served with General Walker in Germany. Additionally Glaze was a master marksman who performed classified wet work. Also, he resided and worked within the Dallas-Fort Worth region.

Source:

http://www.lincoln-a...topic=53.0;wap2

Also he went missing in on August 23, 1963.They found his bones in December 1963.But not immediately identified.He died from gunshot wounds and was not identified till 42 years later.

Source:

http://suite101.com/...ade-idd-a377492

Malcom, the account you cited is from Rick Stelnick, whose opinions are well-known. In his series from last June, 'Beating the bushes for General Walker,' he attempted to insinuate the disappearance of Kenneth Glaze in late August, 1963, with the JFK assassination.

In this case Stelnick provided no hard evidence to link the two events, but his speculation is intriguing in a cloak and dagger sort of way. Stelnick hints (without bluntly spelling it out) that General Walker invited Glaze to participate in the JFK assassination, but Glaze turned down the invitation, and suggested he'd blow the whistle on Walker.

This would explain the disappearance of Glaze, suggests Stelnick. Yet the only threads of evidence Stelnick offers are that Glaze once served under Walker in the Army,and that Glaze lived in Dallas when Walker lived in Dallas, and that Glaze vanished shortly before the JFK assassination. It's too skinny a thread at present. I'd like to see what else Stelnick comes up with in the future.

However, I'm reminded of another story about Walker, namely, the story about Walker's chauffer in Germany. One day Walker calmly called Army headquarters to report that his chauffer had just committed suicide, and asked headquarters to please send him another chauffer right away. The telephone operator reported his chills when recalling the bizarre mismatch between Walker's calm voice and the shocking news he'd just reported.

So, I won't discount Stelnick's speculations just yet -- he may be on to something.

Best regards,

--Paul Trejo

Edited June 16, 2012 by Paul Trejo

[Malcolm Ward]

Thanks for the informative post Paul.I don't think,Beating the bushes for General Walker,has been shown this side of the pond.As usual you have lots of interesting stuff on General Edwin Walker.He was a very complex character.

[Ian Kingsbury]

Jim/Paul

Been following this thread from the start and have seen connections

Between Walker and military and or agency, thinking about the

Public side of his life, when I read this Piece

http://www.ctka.net/pr996-odio.html

This is Sylvia Odio's statement in which she mentions the Connels

And how Mrs Connel knew Walker .

Through the John Birch society!.

I believe there was a connection between the two other men

That visited with "Leon" Oswald .

The other two were named but then retracted their statements.

Could this incident be part of Oswalds sheep dipping or

Separate to Walkers part?.

Do we know anything about the Connels as she seemed to have

Quite a hold over Sylvia !.

Similar to George De M. And Oswald

Ruth Paine and Marina!.

Mrs Connels ex owned the local cement works.

You probably know all this but for some of us are on

Permanent catch up .

Walker has been "hidden" for far too long.

Great work guys fascinating reading!.

[Paul Trejo]

Jim/Paul

Been following this thread from the start and have seen connections

Between Walker and military and or agency, thinking about the

Public side of his life, when I read this Piece

http://www.ctka.net/pr996-odio.html

This is Sylvia Odio's statement in which she mentions the Connels

And how Mrs Connel knew Walker .

Through the John Birch society!.

I believe there was a connection between the two other men

That visited with "Leon" Oswald .

The other two were named but then retracted their statements.

Could this incident be part of Oswalds sheep dipping or

Separate to Walkers part?.

Do we know anything about the Connels as she seemed to have

Quite a hold over Sylvia !.

Similar to George De M. And Oswald

Ruth Paine and Marina!.

Mrs Connels ex owned the local cement works.

You probably know all this but for some of us are on

Permanent catch up .

Walker has been "hidden" for far too long.

Great work guys fascinating reading!.

Thank you, Ian, for sharing this interesting item about ex-General Edwin Walker as related to Sylvia Odio.

Actually, the Warren Commission once asked ex-General Walker if he had ever associated with any Cuban Exiles or organizations. Walker admitted that he attended meetings with Carlos Bringuier and the DRE (Student Revolutionary Directorate), a militant right-wing Anticommunist Anti-Castro group of young Cuban Exiles who were seeking funds for their training camps. Walker admitted he gave them a little bit of money.

When asked if he had ever seen Lee Harvey Oswald at any of those meetings, Walker said, no.

Now, the meetings in question were held in Dallas, Texas, although the DRE had its headquarters in New Orleans -- specifically at 544 Camp Street, above the offices of Guy Banister. So -- there is a connection there -- but it is like pulling teeth struggling for every little thread.

The material you shared, Ian, is a significant breakthrough, because it links General Walker with Sylvia Odio. I would have said a major breakthrough, except that the material we have so far to connect Walker with Odio is very little -- presented through a third party, namely, Lucille Connell, a wealthy Dallas resident; an eccentric and a member of the John Birch Society.

In the article you presented, Ian, one of the Warren Commission attorneys, Wesley Liebeler, had interviewed Sylvia Odio independently of the Warren Commission Hearings, and the name of General Walker came up briefly. Wesley Liebeler had just asked Sylvia Odio if she knew Lucille Connell:

- - - - - - - - -

SYLVIA ODIO: "Mrs. Connell was apparently involved in more than she pretended. Whenever she wanted to find out some information she would take me out to lunch. I wasn't aware at the time she was using me. I knew she was involved with key people in Dallas and she was continually getting phone calls where she would lock herself in her library when she answered them. She was always mysterious, and always very careful not to mention information, she always asked. She did mention General Walker; we talked about Walker. I knew she was involved with his movement and with the John Birch Society. I think that's why she was involved with the Cubans, because we were very usable people, and expendable.

LIEBELER: Did she ever mention Conservatives of the USA?

SYLVIA ODIO: Yes, she did. We discussed that, I remember the name...And then all of a sudden one summer [Lucille] decided to become a Rosicrusian and she started traveling; was it Oklahoma or someplace where the Rosicrusians have a headquarters? She traveled quite a bit on that, I remember because she showed me a card, they issued her a card. She married a guy who takes tours to Europe and has a lot of money...Another association she recalled was the name of [Perry] Russo, which she heard mentioned as part of Garrison's investigation. She says the name rang a bell and she finds it interesting that he knew Oswald by the name of Leon Oswald also. Connell was not only involved with the Mental Health Association but very interested in psychology, mind control and brainwashing. She had a lot of books on the subject. That’s when I said to myself, “Silvia, the time has come for you to keep quiet. They don’t want to know the truth.”

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So, that was all that was mentioned, according to the file you shared, Ian. It's only a whiff of the pie. Sylvia Odio said that she often talked about General Walker with Lucille Connell -- but she doesn't tell us any details. How frustrating is that?

Also, Liebeler asked Sylvia Odio about "Conservatives of the USA," and I suspect that he meant to say, "Conservatism USA," which was the right-wing organization of Larrie Schmidt and Bernard Weissman, who designed and published the WANTED FOR TREASON: JFK handbill, and the black-bordered ad (WELCOME MR. KENNEDY) that accused JFK of being a Communist right inside the Dallas Morning News of 11/22/1963. Their publisher was Robert Allen Surrey, who was also the President of General Walker's business, American Eagle Publishing Company.

Again, I wanted to hear Sylvia Odio's details. Exactly what did she hear about Conservatism USA and General Walker?

It would be great to have more information about the Walker connection here, because this materially links Walker with the Guy Banister and David Ferrie operation through Cuban Exiles at Lake Pontchartrain in September of 1963.

(By the way, one pertinent fact that emerged was that Sylvia Odio pinpointed the day of the Leopoldo follow-up phone call as Friday 27 September 1963, about 7;30pm.)

Best regards,

--Paul Trejo

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Edited June 18, 2012 by Paul Trejo

[Ian Kingsbury]

Jim/Paul

Been following this thread from the start and have seen connections

Between Walker and military and or agency, thinking about the

Public side of his life, when I read this Piece

http://www.ctka.net/pr996-odio.html

This is Sylvia Odio's statement in which she mentions the Connels

And how Mrs Connel knew Walker .

Through the John Birch society!.

I believe there was a connection between the two other men

That visited with "Leon" Oswald .

The other two were named but then retracted their statements.

Could this incident be part of Oswalds sheep dipping or

Separate to Walkers part?.

Do we know anything about the Connels as she seemed to have

Quite a hold over Sylvia !.

Similar to George De M. And Oswald

Ruth Paine and Marina!.

Mrs Connels ex owned the local cement works.

You probably know all this but for some of us are on

Permanent catch up .

Walker has been "hidden" for far too long.

Great work guys fascinating reading!.

Thank you, Ian, for sharing this interesting item about ex-General Edwin Walker as related to Sylvia Odio.

Actually, the Warren Commission once asked ex-General Walker if he had ever associated with any Cuban Exiles or organizations. Walker admitted that he attended meetings with Carlos Bringuier and the DRE (Student Revolutionary Directorate), a militant right-wing Anticommunist Anti-Castro group of young Cuban Exiles who were seeking funds for their training camps. Walker admitted he gave them a little bit of money.

When asked if he had ever seen Lee Harvey Oswald at any of those meetings, Walker said, no.

Now, the meetings in question were held in Dallas, Texas, although the DRE had its headquarters in New Orleans -- specifically at 544 Camp Street, above the offices of Guy Banister. So -- there is a connection there -- but it is like pulling teeth struggling for every little thread.

The material you shared, Ian, is a significant breakthrough, because it links General Walker with Sylvia Odio. I would have said a major breakthrough, except that the material we have so far to connect Walker with Odio is very little -- presented through a third party, namely, Lucille Connell, a wealthy Dallas resident; an eccentric and a member of the John Birch Society.

In the article you presented, Ian, one of the Warren Commission attorneys, Wesley Liebeler, had interviewed Sylvia Odio independently of the Warren Commission Hearings, and the name of General Walker came up briefly. Wesley Liebeler had just asked Sylvia Odio if she knew Lucille Connell:

- - - - - - - - -

SYLVIA ODIO: "Mrs. Connell was apparently involved in more than she pretended. Whenever she wanted to find out some information she would take me out to lunch. I wasn't aware at the time she was using me. I knew she was involved with key people in Dallas and she was continually getting phone calls where she would lock herself in her library when she answered them. She was always mysterious, and always very careful not to mention information, she always asked. She did mention General Walker; we talked about Walker. I knew she was involved with his movement and with the John Birch Society. I think that's why she was involved with the Cubans, because we were very usable people, and expendable.

LIEBELER: Did she ever mention Conservatives of the USA?

SYLVIA ODIO: Yes, she did. We discussed that, I remember the name...And then all of a sudden one summer [Lucille] decided to become a Rosicrusian and she started traveling; was it Oklahoma or someplace where the Rosicrusians have a headquarters? She traveled quite a bit on that, I remember because she showed me a card, they issued her a card. She married a guy who takes tours to Europe and has a lot of money...Another association she recalled was the name of [Perry] Russo, which she heard mentioned as part of Garrison's investigation. She says the name rang a bell and she finds it interesting that he knew Oswald by the name of Leon Oswald also. Connell was not only involved with the Mental Health Association but very interested in psychology, mind control and brainwashing. She had a lot of books on the subject. That’s when I said to myself, “Silvia, the time has come for you to keep quiet. They don’t want to know the truth.”

- - - - - - - - -

So, that was all that was mentioned, according to the file you shared, Ian. It's only a whiff of the pie. Sylvia Odio said that she often talked about General Walker with Lucille Connell -- but she doesn't tell us any details. How frustrating is that?

Also, Liebeler asked Sylvia Odio about "Conservatives of the USA," and I suspect that he meant to say, "Conservatism USA," which was the right-wing organization of Larrie Schmidt and Bernard Weissman, who designed and published the WANTED FOR TREASON: JFK handbill, and the black-bordered ad (WELCOME MR. KENNEDY) that accused JFK of being a Communist right inside the Dallas Morning News of 11/22/1963. Their publisher was Robert Allen Surrey, who was also the President of General Walker's business, American Eagle Publishing Company.

Again, I wanted to hear Sylvia Odio's details. Exactly what did she hear about Conservatism USA and General Walker?

It would be great to have more information about the Walker connection here, because this materially links Walker with the Guy Banister and David Ferrie operation through Cuban Exiles at Lake Pontchartrain in September of 1963.

(By the way, one pertinent fact that emerged was that Sylvia Odio pinpointed the day of the Leopoldo follow-up phone call as Friday 27 September 1963, about 7;30pm.)

Best regards,

--Paul Trejo

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Paul thanks for the info . I think I have spent too long trying to build a picture

Using the WC volumes . It's when you get into the executive material

That you find the "story " of Oswalds life is way different to how he is

Perceived by many.

It's like finding out the three bears live in central park and socialised

With Goldilocks parents !.

That's probably why the porch door was unlocked!.

[Paul Trejo]

Paul thanks for the info . I think I have spent too long trying to build a picture

Using the WC volumes . It's when you get into the executive material

That you find the "story " of Oswalds life is way different to how he is

Perceived by many.

It's like finding out the three bears live in central park and socialised

With Goldilocks parents !.

That's probably why the porch door was unlocked!.

Ian, I still have a high opinion of the value of the Warren Commission testimony (but not the Warren Commission conclusions).

I say this because of my disappointment with the HSCA witness testimony. Marina Oswald told the HSCA the same thing she told the Warren Commission, so that HSCA testimony was a waste of time. George De Mohrenschildt supplied a written record (I'm a Patsy! I'm a Patsy!) but it contains many withholds, and then he committed suicide (I believe) because he didn't want to face his demons (i.e. the withholds remaining in his written record. That gave us a little more information, but not much.

Also, the HSCA spent so much time on the Mafia, and came back with such a puny result, that nothing substantial resulted -- we already knew that many Mafia bosses hated JFK, and even that some threw large amounts of money at haphazard plots to kill JFK. Nothing about the ground-crew emerged of any substance.

Also, the CIA angle was over-played and never obtained any substantial secrets. The HSCA's best result was their conclusion that Oswald didn't act alone. Yet I'm completely astounded that they left the Dallas stone unturned -- the DPD, the Dallas Minutemen, General Walker, the extreme rightist groups like the CUSA and YAF under Larrie Schmidt, the John Birch Society -- all of these suspects remained as sacrosanct under the HSCA as they had been under the Warren Commission Hearings.

The great advantage of the Warren Commission witnesses was that General Edwin Walker was compelled to testify for Earl Warren. It was in these hearings that we first learned about the Deutsche Nationalzeitung connection. Only in these hearings was Robert Allen Surrey compelled to plead the Fifth Amendment multiple times. Only in these hearings did the career of Larrie Schmidt become public.

Allen Dulles once told one of his aides, Jacques Zwart, that (and I paraphrase): "The whole truth is in the Warren Commission Hearings, if you read between the lines." Zwart reported this in his book, Invitation to Hair Splitting (1970). Dulles led Zwart to believe that he must read what was *omitted* from the questions asked by the Warren attorneys. Dulles wouldn’t tell him what he would find there – but assured him he would find the answers if he studied.

IMHO, with just a little more digging, a plot involving General Walker, Robert Allen Surrey, Larrie Schmidt, H.L. Hunt, high-ranking members of the John Birch Society, members of the Minutemen like Guy Banister, David Ferrie and Roscoe White, as well as key members of Cuban Exile radicals, like Alpha-66, would have been exposed and snapped.

Yet the Warren Hearings proceeded as if this exposure would have led to a National Security crisis (perhaps a Civil War) and so they carefully backed away from such insinuations -- with 'off the record' discussions.

Best regards,

--Paul Trejo

Edited June 19, 2012 by Paul Trejo

[John Dolva]

Great post Paul.

re the HSCA, I don't have Gaeton Fonzis book at hand but from memory the investigation did divide up into 5 groups that looked at different suspects one of which was Civil Rights as a theme. This group, like the others, found promising leads, G. Fonzi focused on one, the report finalised on another. Where are the records of the group that investigated the main area where Walker would have been most likely to have popped up?

[Greg Parker]

You guys are doing a good job and generally asking the right questions, but just to correct some information:

The DRE HQ was in Miami - not NO. Those who went to the meeting in Dallas were from Miami, not NO. Bringuier did not have his office at 544 Camp St - that was Sergio Arcasha Smith of the Cuban Revolutionary Council (CRC).

Edited June 20, 2012 by Greg Parker

[Malcolm Ward]

Here is a site on the men of Major General Edwin Walkers 24th Division.Some of the old soldiers have reminiscences on Walker.

{Robert, I was in the 24th Signal Battalion from October 1959 to May 1962. I was on Flak Kaserne (the one with the lantern over the hole in the fence way down behind the hospital).  I had looked up General Walker and found this page.........reading them reminded me of a night I had duty in the Radio Control Center (in the basement of the HQ building and 30 seconds to the back door of the EM club). I received a call one morning around 0600-0630 and I immediately recognized the voice as that of the General.  He asked me if I would have the Officer of the Day send someone to pick him up, his driver had parked in the garage and committed suicide.I will never forget the nonchalance in his voice.}

{Not long after I arrived in Augsburg and had settled into my new job at 34th Inf PIO, there was a mandatory meeting called for all troop information personnel in the 24th Division. It was (groan!) on a Saturday, infringing on our so-called free time.

At the meeting there were two generals at the front of the room - Edwin A Walker and, I think, a General Marroon or something like that - clearly, the remote second in command.

As Gen Walker addressed us, he pulled down a huge wall map of the world. It was rendered in various shades of red and pink. This was, he said, to show the degree of communist influence in each country. The United States got off easy with only a medium red color. We all looked at each other, the other general, too, rather mystified and uneasy with this commanding officer who seemed, to all intents and purposes, to be flat out crazy.

Gen Walker stated that it wasn't http://educationforu...44&st=165enough to be anti-red - you must be PRO-BLUE! He gave us a list of books to be placed in all the dayrooms - required reading for everyone. It was up to us, the TI personnel, to spread the word.

Well, we didn't really get much done along those lines. Before long Gen Walker was relieved of his burden and we all got on with our various lives.

Several years later, I watched his exploits in New Orleans on TV with fascination.}

Source:

http://www.bobrowen....e in his voice.

{You brought back memories when you wrote about Gen. Walker.  Remembering attending mandatory lectures, named if I remember right "Pro Blue Program". Never thought of him as a "right wing fanatic" nor do I today. thought of him as very patriotic, got the division in great shape (mandatory PT and runs daily) and to tell you the truth never did see any racist attitudes come from him (most of my NCO's black or Hispanic) and we received great field training. He may have been a little extreme, in some peoples eyes, but most of the men did not think so.}

[Paul Trejo]

...re the HSCA, I don't have Gaeton Fonzis book at hand but from memory the investigation did divide up into 5 groups that looked at different suspects one of which was Civil Rights as a theme. This group, like the others, found promising leads, G. Fonzi focused on one, the report finalised on another. Where are the records of the group that investigated the main area where Walker would have been most likely to have popped up?

Right, John -- Fonzi is an outstanding critic and expert about the HSCA.

OK, let's test my memory...the five major HSCA Teams were:

(1) Pro-Castro sympathizers plus Civil Rights..............led by Kenney Klein

(2) Organized Crime plus Jack Ruby............................led by Jim McDonald

(3) Anti-Castro Cubans plus New Orleans....................led by Jim McDonald

(4) Russian intelligence forces......................................led by Lee Matthews

(5) Right-wing militants.................................................led by Michael Goldsmith

Supporting all five Teams were special project teams for acoustics, autopsy, ballistics, photography and witnesses.

Blakey wanted above all to find Oswald's motivation within at least one of these five areas, but the HSCA got even less information about Oswald than the Warren Commission got.

Ultimately, Blakey concluded that Oswald's motivation aligned best with #1, Pro-Castro sympathizers, but that led to a dead-end regarding ballistics, photography and witnesses. This is why the HSCA fell apart in such an awkward manner.

When the first draft summary of their work came out, the result was confusing, and did not hang together, so Blakey just jumped to his own conclusion, and said #2, Organized Crime did it.

Most the other researchers on these Teams immediately disagreed with Blakey, but they were out-ranked. That was the 'Final Investigation.'

Finally, John, you asked which of the five teams should have explored General Walker; the answer would be #5, Right-wing militants. Oswald was a fake FPCC officer. Oswald's associates were ex-Marines (like Gerry Hemming), Cuban Exiles (like Loran Hall and Carlos Bringuier) and occasionally an Intelligence Agent. Larrie Schmidt and his brother Bob were neo-Nazi opportunists, and Oswald allegedly knew them, too.

I thought the HSCA made a poor showing with that research, given their enormous funding.

Best regards,

--Paul Trejo

[Paul Trejo]

You guys are doing a good job and generally asking the right questions, but just to correct some information:

The DRE HQ was in Miami - not NO. Those who went to the meeting in Dallas were from Miami, not NO. Bringuier did not have his office at 544 Camp St - that was Sergio Arcana Smith of the Cuban Revolutionary Council (CRC).

Greg, you're absolutely right about the DRE being headquartered in Miami. I said it was New Orleans. It was that other

Cuban Exile group of militant extremists, the CRC, that had its offices above Guy Bannister's office.

Still, Carlos Bringuier belonged to the DRE, and he also had his business offices in New Orleans, and he interacted with Lee Harvey Oswald several times -- in a staged fist-fight on Canal Street, over a fake FPCC affiliation, and also on the radio, in a loosely scripted debate to make Oswald look more convincing as an FPCC officer, and finally on television, where both Carlos and Lee would try out their best acting skills for their 15 minutes of fame.

Far from being enemies, IMHO, they were good buddies in New Orleans.

Best regards,

--Paul Trejo

[Paul Trejo]

Here is a site on the men of Major General Edwin Walkers 24th Division.Some of the old soldiers have reminiscences on Walker.

{Robert, I was in the 24th Signal Battalion from October 1959 to May 1962. I was on Flak Kaserne (the one with the lantern over the hole in the fence way down behind the hospital). I had looked up General Walker and found this page.........reading them reminded me of a night I had duty in the Radio Control Center (in the basement of the HQ building and 30 seconds to the back door of the EM club). I received a call one morning around 0600-0630 and I immediately recognized the voice as that of the General. He asked me if I would have the Officer of the Day send someone to pick him up, his driver had parked in the garage and committed suicide.I will never forget the nonchalance in his voice.}

{Not long after I arrived in Augsburg and had settled into my new job at 34th Inf PIO, there was a mandatory meeting called for all troop information personnel in the 24th Division. It was (groan!) on a Saturday, infringing on our so-called free time.

At the meeting there were two generals at the front of the room - Edwin A Walker and, I think, a General Marroon or something like that - clearly, the remote second in command.

As Gen Walker addressed us, he pulled down a huge wall map of the world. It was rendered in various shades of red and pink. This was, he said, to show the degree of communist influence in each country. The United States got off easy with only a medium red color. We all looked at each other, the other general, too, rather mystified and uneasy with this commanding officer who seemed, to all intents and purposes, to be flat out crazy.

Gen Walker stated that it wasn't http://educationforu...44&st=165enough to be anti-red - you must be PRO-BLUE! He gave us a list of books to be placed in all the dayrooms - required reading for everyone. It was up to us, the TI personnel, to spread the word.

Well, we didn't really get much done along those lines. Before long Gen Walker was relieved of his burden and we all got on with our various lives.

Several years later, I watched his exploits in New Orleans on TV with fascination.}

Source:

http://www.bobrowen....e in his voice.

{You brought back memories when you wrote about Gen. Walker. Remembering attending mandatory lectures, named if I remember right "Pro Blue Program". Never thought of him as a "right wing fanatic" nor do I today. thought of him as very patriotic, got the division in great shape (mandatory PT and runs daily) and to tell you the truth never did see any racist attitudes come from him (most of my NCO's black or Hispanic) and we received great field training. He may have been a little extreme, in some peoples eyes, but most of the men did not think so.}

Thanks, Malcom, for sharing this site. The story about the alleged suicide of Walker's chauffer would make a good movie scene. To dramatize it, a director might play up Walker's secret life in the closet, and then have his chauffer threaten to out him (probably because Walker made a pass at him) and then in the next clip show the chauffer dead in his vehicle, with Walker placing a pistol in his hand. And then calmly making his phone call. No proof, of course, but it would make a good movie scene.

I am divided about Walker's racist attitudes. In all his personal records I could find nothing by his own hand or typewriter that suggested he was racist. Military loyalty was topmost in his values. We have plenty of evidence that Walker associated with open racists in civilian life -- like the segregationist Reverend Billy James Hargis, as well as H.L. Hunt and Governor Ross Barnett.

We also have a report that the day after Governor Barnett visited KKK member, Byron De La Beckwith, on trial for the racially motivated murder of Medgar Evers (who was James Meredith's advisor at Ole Miss), General Walker visited De La Beckwith, also.

But was that a favor for Governor Ross Barnett? How much of Walker's alleged racism was due to the circles in which he moved for political influence -- and how much was really personal? When he was asked point blank about it in Los Angeles by a news reporter in early 1963, he said that if people want to racially integrate, that should be a free choice, but he was totally against the US Government using Federal Troops for force people to integrate. That's not actually a strident KKK or Neo-Nazi position, but closer to a conservative populist position.

Best regards,

--Paul Trejo

[Ian Kingsbury]

Paul

Do you have a link to the German reporters story about

Walkers private life ?.

I believe you mentioned him doing some extra legwork to obtain

A fuller story , and was it published?.

Thanks again.

Ian

[Guest Tom Scully]

....When he was asked point blank about it in Los Angeles by a news reporter in early 1963, he said that if people want to racially integrate, that should be a free choice, but he was totally against the US Government using Federal Troops for force people to integrate. That's not actually a strident KKK or Neo-Nazi position, but closer to a conservative populist position.

Best regards,

--Paul Trejo

Paul, didn't the U.S. Government use federal troops to enforce a decision by the U.S. Supreme Court? (I found your last sentence in your post particularly offensive, if my understanding of your defense of the objection to using troops under those circumstances, is correct.)

http://www.nps.gov/nr/twhp/wwwlps/lessons/crandall/CRfacts2.htm

.....The co-editor of the Tiger, Little Rock Central High School's student newspaper, summarized the events surrounding the planned desegregation in the September 19, 1957, issue as follows:

Classes were scheduled to begin promptly at 8:45 a.m., September 3, at Little Rock Central High School when incidents began happening which caused the school to be the center of nationwide publicity. Photographs and articles have appeared in national magazines, and newspapers throughout the United States have told the story of how nine Negro students had been registered for admission to Central. To better understand the happenings of the past two weeks, here is a summary of the history of the school situation.

Supreme Court Rules

On May 17, 1954 the United States Supreme Court ruled that racial segregation in the schools was unconstitutional. Just five days later the Little Rock School Board issued a policy statement that said it would comply with the Supreme Court decision when the Court outlined the method to be followed. In May, 1955 the School Board adopted a plan of gradual integration under which the high school grades would be integrated starting in September, 1957.

Injunction Proceedings

Pulaski Chancellor Murry O. Reed issued a temporary injunction against enrolling Negroes in Central High on August 29, after Mrs. Clyde Thomason, recording secretary of the Mother's League, had filed suit in Pulaski Chancery Court.

Federal District Judge Ronald N. Davies of North Dakota nullified the Pulaski Chancery Court injunction the next day and ordered the School Board to proceed with its gradual integration plan beginning with the opening of school on September 3.

Governor Calls Guard

Governor Orval Faubus called out the Arkansas National Guard and the State Police on the night of September 2 to surround the LRCHS campus with instructions to keep peace and order. About 270 Army and Air National Guard troops under the command of Colonel Marion Johnson formed lines for the two blocks along the front of the school. The first day of school drew a crowd of about 300 spectators; the troops had closed the streets around the school to all traffic.

There were groups of uniformed men posted at each entrance and all sides of the building with orders to admit only students, teachers, and school officials. Judge Davies again ordered integration to proceed at a hearing which lasted less than five minutes on the night of September 3.

Nine Negroes Arrive

Nine Negro students arrived to enroll at Central on the second day of school but were turned away by the National Guardsmen at the direction of Governor Faubus.

That afternoon Federal Judge Davies ordered an investigation by all offices of the Department of Justice to determine who was responsible for the interference of the court's order to proceed with integration. The National Guard remained on duty. A petition asking for a stay of the integration order was sought in the interest of education by the School Board on September 7, but it was denied by Judge Davies.

Gov. Accepts Summons

A week after school had opened, on September 10, Governor Faubus was served with a Federal Court summons. Federal Judge Davies ordered the Governor and the Arkansas National Guard made defendants in the case and scheduled a hearing for tomorrow, September 20. Later that day, the nine Negroes who had failed to enter LRCHS said they would not make another attempt until after the hearing. At a press conference after the summons had been accepted Governor Faubus said that the Guard Troops would remain at Central for the time being.

Historic Meeting Occurs

Last Saturday an unprecedented conference took place between President Eisenhower and Governor Faubus at Newport, Rhode Island, to discuss the school situation. Although many details have been written about this meeting, no definite statements have been made as to the possible outcome.

The October 3, 1957, issue of the Tiger continued the story:

Nine Negro students attended Little Rock Central High School last week for the first time in history. They arrived at the school Wednesday, September 25, accompanied by crack paratroopers of the U.S. Army's 101st Airborne Division. An Army station wagon carried the students to the front entrance of the building while an Army helicopter circled overhead and 350 armed paratroopers stood at parade rest around the building.

Never before had Federal troops been used to enforce integration in a public school.

Third Attempt Made

This was the third attempt the Negro students had made to attend classes at Central. For three weeks the Arkansas National Guard had patrolled the school on orders of Governor Orval Faubus. Then on September 20 the troops were withdrawn by the Governor after the Federal Court had issued an injunction requiring him to withdraw the troops.

All was quiet over the week-end at CHS, but on Monday, September 23, eight of the Negro students enrolled at Central. Uncontrolled violence grew so swiftly in the area surrounding the school campus that city law enforcement officers decided it was wise to withdraw the Negro students shortly after noon on the same day.

Federal Troops Arrive

President Eisenhower took unprecedented action on September 24, when he called the Arkansas National Guard into active military service to deal with the Little Rock school integration crisis. President Eisenhower also authorized Secretary of Defense Wilson to use regular Army troops in addition to the National Guard Units.

Accordingly, about 1,000 paratroopers of the 101st Airborne division at Fort Campbell, Kentucky, began arriving at the Little Rock Air Force Base on the evening of September 24. They immediately took up positions around the school.

General Advises Students

The Department of the Army designated Major General Edwin A. Walker chief of the Arkansas Military District.

As commander of the troops in the Little Rock area, Major General Walker addressed the student body and explained his position clearly....

Why do you suppose Al Gore accepted the flawed and highly controversial, Bush v. Gore court decision in 2000?

Isn't this what happened when the government chose not to enforce a major Supreme Court decision?

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