John Butler Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 There is a hand there. It is holding what I believe is a microphone. That's my better guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bristow Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 John and Jim, yes the hand and hat is possibe. The hat is a funny shape that could be motion blur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bristow Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 11 hours ago, Joe Bauer said: After watching the video Chris D. provided over and over and over again one of the questions I kept pondering was the same one T.Adams asks. You can see Oswald is looking right at Ruby while Ruby is coming out of the press line and advancing toward him. Ruby's distance out of the line and into the already quite small space between Oswald and the press line is significantly noticeable in the video. After Oswald looks straight at Ruby while Ruby is already advancing beyond all other persons in the crowd, he then looks away and forward again without the slightest look of concern. Ruby shoots Oswald while Oswald is still looking ahead. All this in what ... a two second time frame? One does see some flashbulb flashes happening throughout the brief time Oswald and his two escorts are walking to and arriving at the shooting spot. One of these occurs a split second before Ruby jumps out. I would imagine these flashes are very bright. Could it be that Oswald might have missed seeing Ruby first jumping towards him due to some very brief flashbulb blindness? So many other questions regards all the video of the Oswald basement entry/murder scene sequence. Captain Fritz's movements, actions and facial expressions right up to, during and right after Ruby's loud shot into Oswald's gut seem curiously odd in an illogically detached way. To the point of seeming bizarre if not suspicious. Fritz separates himself seconds before the shot and meanders several feet away into a security meaningless area and starts old man slowly and weakly waving his arms at no one close by? Except perhaps he was somehow directing the police car inching down to ramp to pick up Oswald? As if the person driving can even see him on the opposite far side of the car? Fritz's physical reaction response to the booming blast of Ruby's 38 is so delayed, it seemed indicative of advanced dementia. As well as his confused out-of-it facial expressions. For a guy who was ready to punch it out with a recalcitrant young punk Buell Wesley Frazier refusing to follow his confession signing orders just two days earlier, Fritz sure got much more old man addled quick. Joe, I think from Oswald's point of view the group of reporters may have just been dark silhouettes. The extremely bright lights used for the very old video cameras was behind and just overhead the group of reporters. Oswald looked left not directly toward but fairly close to the location of the light. Ruby wasn't directly in line with the light either but I still think may have been very hard to see. One of the video angles shows all the reporters faces were in Shadow. The still photographs don't show those Shadows because of the Flash but maybe that allowed Oswald to recognize the faces for a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Chris Bristow said: Joe, I think from Oswald's point of view the group of reporters may have just been dark silhouettes. The extremely bright lights used for the very old video cameras was behind and just overhead the group of reporters. Oswald looked left not directly toward but fairly close to the location of the light. Ruby wasn't directly in line with the light either but I still think may have been very hard to see. One of the video angles shows all the reporters faces were in Shadow. The still photographs don't show those Shadows because of the Flash but maybe that allowed Oswald to recognize the faces for a second. Seems very logical and probable Chris. Those lights were bright and focused right at Oswald and his two escorts. Edited February 9, 2020 by Joe Bauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Butler Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Ron Bulman posted a pdf that had 3 frames from the film in which Ruby shoots Oswald. This shows that the original question is not a man, but a hand holding a microphone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Your explanation seems correct John Butler. As Chief Will Fritz so confidently and even boastfully said to the press one day after 11,22,1963 ..."this case is cinched!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Davidson Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Smoking a cigarette? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Adams Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 John Butler, I wonder what the guy in the Fedora hat was thinking at that moment?............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Hargrove Posted February 10, 2020 Author Share Posted February 10, 2020 To Chris Davidson, The clarity of that .gif is just stunning! Thank you! It really is nice to get definitive answers to questions once in a while around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bristow Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 (edited) On 2/9/2020 at 12:25 PM, Chris Davidson said: Smoking a cigarette? Looks like a cigar. Looks like he is about to take it out of his mouth when he stops and reaches out to Oswald Edited November 10, 2020 by Chris Bristow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Great slo-mo and repeat video. I feel that seeing the actual Ruby/Oswald shooting scene in this slow-mo back and forth moving format uniquely allows one to see and contemplate more important details and their importance versus still photos or regular speed video. Thanks for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Notice in the slow-mo video "everyone" shown in this reacts noticeably to Ruby's loud 38 shot into Oswald's gut...except Will Fritz. The two fellas on Fritz's right flinch. One raises his hands. The other snaps his head toward the shooting and a person bending down beneath them reacts even more with an animated head raise with startled eyes. How addled was Fritz to not show one sign of startledness? Was Fritz deaf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Butler Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bristow Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, John Butler said: Top left is the top of the guys forehead standing behind Oswald. A sliver of the forehead and his hairline, the rest blocked by Oswald. Below it is a dark shadow falling on Oswald's face. On the right is the thumb side of the cigar guys hand with a bit of the white shirt collar of the cop on Oswald's left behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Butler Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 (edited) Chris, The top arrow refers to the black or shadowed square at the end of the cigar. The left arrow refers to some kind of square or nearly square object on his hand. There is some kind of design on the square. The right arrow refers to a polygonal, transparent area beginning at the end of the wrist. Those don't appear to be shadows. Chris here's another to fog the brain cells of a normal person. This is strange. Where is the guy in the tan raincoat (possibly with a microphone) in the left hand photo. Ruby takes maybe two steps and the microphone guy disappears. In the right hand photo you can possibly see the hands of the cigar smoking man. In the left hand photo is that one amazing big arm for the cigar smoking man? That arm's almost as big as Oswald's torso. Edited February 10, 2020 by John Butler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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