Ron Bulman Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Joseph Backes said: The presentation of this is on Tuesday. Do everything you can to stop this project from happening. Learn everything you can about these people. Reimagine Dealey Plaza and the Triple Underpass Tuesday, November 15 at 6:30 p.m. Please join The Dallas Morning News and The Sixth Floor Museum for a presentation and panel discussion of a plan to reimagine Dealey Plaza and the Triple Underpass into a space for memory linking downtown, Martyr’s Park, and the Trinity riverfront. Participants: Mark Lamster, Architecture Critic of The Dallas Morning News (moderator) Jerry Hawkins, Director, Dallas Truth, Racial Healing & Transformation (TRHT) Nicola Longford, Director, Sixth Floor Museum Chris Reed, Stoss Landscape Urbanism & the Harvard Graduate School of Design Monica Ponce de Leon, MPdL Studio & Dean, Princeton School of Architecture In person event Where: The Dallas Morning News When: Tuesday, November 15, 2022 Time: 6:30 p.m. RSVP is required RSVP, a way to keep any protesters away? E-mail camp to Lamster and Hawkins in particular immediately about alteration of history? Edited November 12, 2022 by Ron Bulman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Kossor Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 There have already been significant alterations made to this “national historical site” since 1963 that have made it more difficult to know what happened there, but this plan to eradicate the evidence permanently and replace it with a “memorial” does a terrible disservice to history. They could preserve Elm Street by routing traffic around it and should not consider replacing it with a pedestrian walkway dotted with “pools” and marketed with pictures of children pointing away from the truth about what happened there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 17 minutes ago, Gerry Down said: There would want to be glass over it. Would be a death trap otherwise. This is just so incredibly f*cked up omg. why would they do this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry Down Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Matt Allison said: This is just so incredibly f*cked up omg. why would they do this Obviously whoever thought up those memorial pools doesn't understand the jfk assassination. The only memorial pool that could be located with accuracy is z313. If you try to put a pool at z224, someone will come along and put a new large x beside that pool cos they might think the second shot was actually fired at z202 or something to coincide with the alleged shot that struck JFK as he goes behind the stemmons sign. I bet no jfk assassination researchers were consulted in this design process. Edited November 12, 2022 by Gerry Down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 U.S. historical sites simply cannot be f*cked with like this. What's next? A go-kart track around the Gettysburg grounds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 40 minutes ago, Gerry Down said: There would want to be glass over it. Would be a death trap otherwise. It would be anyway if that many people were hovering around the orb, some staring at it, with traffic coming. This is the exact opposite of what they propose in the article, pedestrian safety, traffic moving through more efficiently. It's all a bunch of horse dooky to cover over the fact JFK was Murdered in Dallas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry Down Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, Ron Bulman said: It would be anyway if that many people were hovering around the orb, some staring at it, with traffic coming. This is the exact opposite of what they propose in the article, pedestrian safety, traffic moving through more efficiently. It's all a bunch of horse dooky to cover over the fact JFK was Murdered in Dallas. In their proposal elm street would be pedestrianized. Though in their overhead shot a van can be seen emerging from the west side of the triple underpass on elm street. So not sure where that van is coming from. The only pedestrian safety measure I see necessary for Dealey Plaza is a reduced speed limit on the three streets emerging from the triple underpass. Currently cars are moving way too fast on those streets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Joseph Backes said: The presentation of this is on Tuesday. Do everything you can to stop this project from happening. Learn everything you can about these people. Reimagine Dealey Plaza and the Triple Underpass Tuesday, November 15 at 6:30 p.m. Please join The Dallas Morning News and The Sixth Floor Museum for a presentation and panel discussion of a plan to reimagine Dealey Plaza and the Triple Underpass into a space for memory linking downtown, Martyr’s Park, and the Trinity riverfront. Participants: Mark Lamster, Architecture Critic of The Dallas Morning News (moderator) Jerry Hawkins, Director, Dallas Truth, Racial Healing & Transformation (TRHT) Nicola Longford, Director, Sixth Floor Museum Chris Reed, Stoss Landscape Urbanism & the Harvard Graduate School of Design Monica Ponce de Leon, MPdL Studio & Dean, Princeton School of Architecture In person event Where: The Dallas Morning News When: Tuesday, November 15, 2022 Time: 6:30 p.m. RSVP is required Is this not illegal? Dealy Plaza is a National Historic Landmark District. Including the TSBD, Dal-Tex, the overpass, railroad yards, and the grassy knoll. Dealey Plaza National Historic Landmark District (medlinfirm.com) Cannot this firm, Lesar, Simpich, Schnapf et al or some other respected attorneys come forward to protest this pro bono for the sake of history? Edited November 12, 2022 by Ron Bulman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Von Pein Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ron Bulman said: In the middle of the street? If the redesign succeeds, Elm St. would become closed to all vehicular traffic, and Main St. (west of Houston) becomes a one-way street heading west. Edited November 12, 2022 by David Von Pein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Von Pein Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Gerry Down said: In their proposal elm street would be pedestrianized. Though in their overhead shot a van can be seen emerging from the west side of the triple underpass on elm street. So not sure where that van is coming from. It was no doubt done with an overlay for the proposed new stuff being placed over a real photo of Dealey Plaza, which included some traffic on Elm. Edited November 12, 2022 by David Von Pein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, David Von Pein said: It was no doubt done with an overlay for the "proposed" new stuff being placed over a real photo of Dealey Plaza, which included some traffic on Elm. No doubt. Hocus pocus brings no focus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Von Pein Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Ron Bulman said: No doubt. Hocus pocus brings no focus. I really have no idea what you mean by that. But, anyway, there's nothing wrong with the way they did the artist renderings. They just weren't able to get a daytime picture showing absolutely no traffic on Elm Street. And apparently they didn't want to digitally remove the few cars that were on Elm at the time those photos were taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Is this not an important aspect of this discussion? Can a city, in a state, alter a National Historic Landmark District? Dealey Plaza National Historic Landmark District (medlinfirm.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry Down Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 3 hours ago, Ron Bulman said: Is this not an important aspect of this discussion? Can a city, in a state, alter a National Historic Landmark District? Dealey Plaza National Historic Landmark District (medlinfirm.com) Part of me wonders if The Dallas Morning News have not started all this in order to generate a bit if controversy and thus draw clicks and sales to themselves. Are the people of Dallas fond of Dealey Plaza and likely to be offended by all this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry Down Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 3 hours ago, Ron Bulman said: Is this not an important aspect of this discussion? Can a city, in a state, alter a National Historic Landmark District? Dealey Plaza National Historic Landmark District (medlinfirm.com) Beware of architectural firms. They will happily destroy a national landmark if they thought they might get an architectural award for doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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