Joseph Backes Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Hurry up download & save this. I think this is a horrible idea and must be stopped. I think it's insulting and a travesty. They are going to present this at the 6th Floor Museum, ( well, where else? ) on Tuesday Nov 15th at 6:30 p.m. See - https://interactives.dallasnews.com/2022/designers-reimagine-site-of-jfk-assassination-triple-underpass-in-downtown-dallas/?fbclid=IwAR3p6lhugHBZlHsCzQv1f3m4ufdUgKmQQ70bTk1K2bpO0kkm5zpwQuWEC1o Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry Down Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 In some of those illustrations it looks like the picket fence on the grassy knoll is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 good lord what a horrible idea. wtf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry Down Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Wouldn't all that pedestrianized area simply provide more area for JFK assassination street vendors to sell their merchandise? The illustrations conveniently leave out all those street vendors that would fill the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Backes Posted November 12, 2022 Author Share Posted November 12, 2022 The presentation of this is on Tuesday. Do everything you can to stop this project from happening. Learn everything you can about these people. Reimagine Dealey Plaza and the Triple Underpass Tuesday, November 15 at 6:30 p.m. Please join The Dallas Morning News and The Sixth Floor Museum for a presentation and panel discussion of a plan to reimagine Dealey Plaza and the Triple Underpass into a space for memory linking downtown, Martyr’s Park, and the Trinity riverfront. Participants: Mark Lamster, Architecture Critic of The Dallas Morning News (moderator) Jerry Hawkins, Director, Dallas Truth, Racial Healing & Transformation (TRHT) Nicola Longford, Director, Sixth Floor Museum Chris Reed, Stoss Landscape Urbanism & the Harvard Graduate School of Design Monica Ponce de Leon, MPdL Studio & Dean, Princeton School of Architecture In person event Where: The Dallas Morning News When: Tuesday, November 15, 2022 Time: 6:30 p.m. RSVP is required Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 They create a walkway and eliminate a lot of parking space behind the GK. You can't see the corner with the trees but the picket fences does not extend from them towards the railroad tracks. If you read the article, I'm sure they would love to eliminate the entire fence, the whole concept of the Grassy Knoll. Do you see the sidewalk under the tracks leading to a walkway circling to an observation overlook. Over the railroad tracks, with trees growing on it? Ridiculous. Those tawdry x's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Von Pein Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Joseph Backes said: Hurry up download & save this. I think this is a horrible idea and must be stopped. I think it's insulting and a travesty. They are going to present this at the 6th Floor Museum, ( well, where else? ) on Tuesday Nov 15th at 6:30 p.m. See - http://interactives.dallasnews.com/2022/designers-reimagine-site-of-jfk-assassination-triple-underpass-in-downtown-dallas I don't think it's such a terrible idea. I kind of like some of the things that have been proposed. Based on the various artist renderings of the proposed redesign of Dealey Plaza (seen below), it appears as though pretty much all of the familiar Dealey Plaza landmarks that are associated with the assassination will remain intact and untouched, such as Zapruder's pedestal, the pergolas, the peristyles, the George Dealey statue, the Grassy Knoll slopes, the TSBD Building, and the streets (except for Houston Street, which would have its surface changed in order to "calm traffic", which I assume would also make it a "quieter" street). In the first rendered image below, I can't tell whether the famous picket fence on the Knoll is still there or not. Perhaps it is. So maybe even that familiar landmark wouldn't have to be disturbed either. I think the idea of the "Memorial Promenade and Overlook" is a good one. And since the proposed location for such a Promenade would be well behind the area of the Grassy Knoll and original Plaza pergolas, I don't see why even the Dealey Plaza purists would complain about it too much. It would be located in the parking lot area behind the Grassy Knoll. No big loss there. One major change in the proposed redesign is that Elm Street would be closed to all vehicle traffic entirely. Only pedestrian traffic would be permitted on Elm, which would certainly make things safer for tourists, who currently can't resist dashing in and out of traffic to have their pictures taken while standing on the X in the middle of Elm Street. I'm not all that keen on the idea of the two "pools" that would be placed along Elm Street to mark the exact locations where JFK was hit by bullets. In the article about the proposed redesign, the author says that the current X's in the street are "tawdry" symbols to mark JFK's death. Well, the proposed "pools" aren't much better on the "tawdry" scale, in my opinion. Edited November 12, 2022 by David Von Pein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry Down Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 No one goes to martyrs park cos there are no buildings over there to go to or come from. This project isn't going to change that. The only people that visit martyrs park are probably jfk assassination researchers examining the various views from there such as where the Daniels footage was taken or viewing Ed Hoffman's viewing angle, or where Tilson came down the embankment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph McBride Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 When I first went to Dealey Plaza and met Penn Jones on the twentieth anniversary of the assassination, I asked him if he was also going to the (empty and sterile and insulting) Dallas monument that day. He said no, because "The holy ground is where the martyr falls." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Joseph Backes said: Hurry up download & save this. I think this is a horrible idea and must be stopped. I think it's insulting and a travesty. They are going to present this at the 6th Floor Museum, ( well, where else? ) on Tuesday Nov 15th at 6:30 p.m. See - https://interactives.dallasnews.com/2022/designers-reimagine-site-of-jfk-assassination-triple-underpass-in-downtown-dallas/?fbclid=IwAR3p6lhugHBZlHsCzQv1f3m4ufdUgKmQQ70bTk1K2bpO0kkm5zpwQuWEC1o Joe It's Orwellian. Let's "transform Dealey Plaza into a space for memory," by erasing the memory of the space? Edited November 12, 2022 by W. Niederhut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry Down Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 The only time I've seen that many people on Elm street was during the last Q Anon gathering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 What is that white orb where an X was, with a little girl standing next to it pointing up to the sixth floor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry Down Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Just now, Ron Bulman said: What is that white orb where an X was, with a little girl standing next to it pointing up to the sixth floor? A memorial pool apparently according to the article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Gerry Down said: A memorial pool apparently according to the article In the middle of the street? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry Down Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Just now, Ron Bulman said: In the middle of the street? There would want to be glass over it. Would be a death trap otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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