Joe Scarborough on the 59th anniversary of JFK's assassination

[Douglas Caddy]

Joe Scarborough today closed his four-hour show, Morning Joe, on MSNBC by observing that on the 59th anniversary of the assassination of President Kennedy many historians believe that American history can be divided into the America before the assassination and the America after.  Such was the shock wave on November 23, 1963, that still reverberates not only in America but around the globe.

[Cory Santos]

That is because it led to the LBJ Presidency-the worst and most corrupt in history, and Watergate which divided the country and led to antigovernment and anti authority sentiment which is destroying our country today. The only solution is to release the records. Stop the LHO did it alone nonsense and admit it was some rogue people.   Honesty to gain peoples trust back.   

[Lori Spencer]

MSNBC (and parent company NBC) is the last place you’ll ever find the truth. They’ve been lying to us about it since 1963! 

[Ron Bulman]

I thought I linked this a couple of days ago but I guess not.

Here are our top stories on the JFK assassination and its aftermath (msn.com)  

Anniversary news from the Dallas Morning News.

Sixth Floor and Freudian psychoanalysis of Margurite?  Last article is on Reinventing Dealy Plaza.

[Douglas Caddy]

On 11/23/2022 at 1:42 AM, Lori Spencer said:

MSNBC (and parent company NBC) is the last place you’ll ever find the truth. They’ve been lying to us about it since 1963! 

Are you saying Joe Scarborough is lying to us in what I reported above of how he closed is recent TV show?

[Lori Spencer]

5 hours ago, Douglas Caddy said:

Are you saying Joe Scarborough is lying to us in what I reported above of how he closed is recent TV show?

I’m saying that NBC News has lied to the American people about the murder of President Kennedy since 1963. I don’t expect that leopard to change its spots now. 

[James DiEugenio]

Just remember who Walter Sheridan worked for in 1967.

 

And how NBC corporate sent Townley the message re: Garrison: "Shoot Him Down". (Bill Davy, Let Justice Be Done, p. 136)

Edited November 26, 2022 by James DiEugenio

[Douglas Caddy]

12 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:

Just remember who Walter Sheridan worked for in 1967.

 

And how NBC corporate sent Townley the message re: Garrison: "Shoot Him Down". (Bill Davy, Let Justice Be Done, p. 136)

Jim: You and Lori cite examples from 55 years ago that "NBC News has lied to the American people about the murder of President Kennedy since 1963."

I think you are short-changing the intense and relentless work that particularly you and others on this forum have done since then to bring to light the true story behind the assassination of JFK. Because of this dedicated effort, the historical record of what occurred on November 22, 1963, has been corrected and the public educated despite the government still refusing to this day to release key documents. 

Rather than criticize NBC now instead we should all celebrate how that powerful media has changed in the intervening years as reflected by Joe Scarborough's recent remarks on the 59th anniversary of the murder of President Kennedy.  You and others can rightfully bask in causing this to happen.

Don't underestimate the influence this forum has had and continues to have on the topic of the JFK assassination.

 

Edited November 26, 2022 by Douglas Caddy

[Joe Bauer]

6 minutes ago, Douglas Caddy said:

Jim: You and Lori cite examples from 55 years ago that "NBC News has lied to the American people about the murder of President Kennedy since 1963."

I think you are short-changing the intense and relentless work that particularly you and others on this forum have done since then to bring to light the true story behind the assassination of JFK. Because of this dedicated effort, the historical record of what occurred on November 22, 1963, has been corrected and the public educated despite the government still refusing to this day to release key documents. 

Rather than criticize NBC now instead we should all celebrate how that powerful media has changed in the intervening years as reflected by Joe Scarborough's recent remarks on the 59th anniversary of the murder of President Kennedy.  You and others can rightfully bask in causing this to happen.

Don't underestimate the influence this forum has had and continues to have on the topic of the JFK assassination.

 

HERE HERE!

[Matthew Koch]

25 minutes ago, Douglas Caddy said:

Jim: You and Lori cite examples from 55 years ago that "NBC News has lied to the American people about the murder of President Kennedy since 1963."

I think you are short-changing the intense and relentless work that particularly you and others on this forum have done since then to bring to light the true story behind the assassination of JFK. Because of this dedicated effort, the historical record of what occurred on November 22, 1963, has been corrected and the public educated despite the government still refusing to this day to release key documents. 

Rather than criticize NBC now instead we should all celebrate how that powerful media has changed in the intervening years as reflected by Joe Scarborough's recent remarks on the 59th anniversary of the murder of President Kennedy.  You and others can rightfully bask in causing this to happen.

Don't underestimate the influence this forum has had and continues to have on the topic of the JFK assassination.

 

 

15 minutes ago, Joe Bauer said:

HERE HERE!

 

[Joe Bauer]

Sheridan failed in his Garrison discrediting assignment to "shoot him down."

Garrison's 1967 nationally broadcast, prime time "Equal Time" rebuttal to NBC's hit piece was so eloquently stated with a Gregory Peck/Atticus Finch creamy baritone resonance speaking tone, manner, bearing and thoughtfully paced style and intelligent weightiness it really came across as an astoundingly profound, moving and most important American history warning message television event.

Simply great speech theater performance.  Even Shakespearean imo.             

Johnny Carson also failed to bring Garrison down when he brought Garrison onto his national TV show. Carson was embarrassed and even angered by the fact the majority of his audience greeted Garrison with a wildly enthusiastic entrance applause and were clearly more inclined toward Garrison's conspiracy proposition cause than his attempt to discredit it.

Garrison's paternal manner wise and protective NBC rebuttal speech to millions of Americans showcased his integrity and intelligence image to such a weighty degree, it brought him much more national support and respect than any of his enemies ever expected.

Edited November 26, 2022 by Joe Bauer

[Matthew Koch]

7 hours ago, Matthew Koch said:

 

 

 

Douglas and Joe here is some further reading for you 

https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/open-letter-to-rachel-maddow-re-show-on-gun-control

Dear Rachel:

Many of us, including me, have admired much of your work on radio and television since 2004, when you were perhaps the very best show on Air America. We then followed you as you became a regular guest on MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann’s show and CNN’s Paula Zahn show. Therefore, we were glad when Keith pushed for you to have your own show on MSNBC. You deserved it. You were a great advocate for progressive causes and puncturing MSM shibboleths and sacred cows.

Which makes it disturbing that you would do what you did on your March 13th program. A common joke among the vast majority who understand the truth about President Kennedy’s assassination is this:

“You know 85% of the public doesn’t buy the Warren Commission hogwash about Lee Oswald being the lone assassin of President Kennedy. Unfortunately, the 15% who do all work at the New York Times, Washington Post, LA Times, NBC, CBS, ABC, and Fox.” Should we add now, MSNBC?

Everyone knows that Chris Mathews made his career by attacking Oliver Stone’s films JFK and Nixon. And he spares no opportunity to say that he believes the Oswald myth and to knock anyone who does not. (But he wisely has no one on his show to present the other side as he does so.) We also know that Bill O’Reilly got his position at Fox by agreeing with Roger Ailes that he would drop his JFK investigatory reports he had done for Inside Edition. (Which were actually pretty good.) He now literally lies about the case in his book Killing Kennedy and on his show.

Most of us thought that we would never see you do something like that. But yet you did use the whole Warren Commission lie about Oswald to promote gun control on March 13th. Many of us agree with the gun control cause especially after Sandy Hook and Aurora. But we would never promote something as bad as the Warren Commission to promote a common good. Especially when it’s not at all necessary.

We all understand that there is an unwritten agreement when you make it big on TV that you cannot touch things like the JFK case. In other words you can have an open debate with anyone, no matter how far out about anything under the sun. But not the JFK assassination. Fine. Maybe you are uninformed about the facts. Maybe you like your newfound fame and fortune. That is all understandable. But is there an unwritten clause in your contract that you have to go out of your way to promote a lie as big as the Warren Commission? I doubt it.

As you mentioned on your ill-advised show, this is the fiftieth anniversary of President Kennedy’s death. He was probably the last real Democrat to occupy that office. And he actually proclaimed he was a liberal. A word the right has successfully stamped out of the political lexicon, along with the word conspiracy. If you do visit this topic again later on, let it be in the spirit of free and open inquiry. Tell your bosses that is what you are really about—all the time, on any subject. There are many people who are articulate and convincing about how bad the Commission really was and what happened to this country afterwards. And the thing is, many people want to hear this side of the story: 85% of us.

 

[Lori Spencer]

Man. That Rachel Maddow video was just 🤮… too many lies in there to even count! 

[Lori Spencer]

Jim, yep I was specifically thinking of the 1967 NBC White Paper report and Garrison’s Johnny Carson appearance. But let’s not forget this gem from 1964. The lies start less than one minute into the broadcast. (Brought to you by Gulf Oil Company) 

 

 

 

Edited November 27, 2022 by Lori Spencer

[Matthew Koch]

8 hours ago, Lori Spencer said:

Man. That Rachel Maddow video was just 🤮… too many lies in there to even count! 

Even worse she leaves out that JFK introduced the bill on behalf of the NRA and American gun owners to limit foreign guns and help American gun makers similar to a tariff. His bill wasn't for gun control. 

I've been having quite a giggle over this because MSNBC is Joe and Douglas's favorite news source!