Kirk Gallaway Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 1 hour ago, W. Niederhut said: Cliff, RFK, Jr. reminds me of some addicts I have worked with-- or heard about-- who are hostile to psychopharmaceuticals. There is a subset of recovering addicts who used to harass my former patients in AA or NA for taking antidepressants or mood stabilizers (for depression and bipolar disorder.) Ironically, RFK, Jr. has injected heroin and anabolic steroids, while advising people to avoid vaccines and antidepressants. He's an ignoramus who thinks he's a genius. I also noticed-- while watching the documentary, JFK Revisited-- that RFK, Jr. needs psychotherapy. He was so overwhelmed with grief while talking about the murders of his father and uncle that he couldn't even speak-- more than 50 years after the incidents. That's an obvious sign of a person who has avoided working through their PTSD issues in psychotherapy. My hunch is that he has avoided working through his grief for 60 years, while taking recreational drugs and acting out his unresolved rage in public-- e.g., toward doctors and other perceived malefactors. I agree W. I do think there are unresolved PTSD issues with RK. I'm reminded of a story from Stephen Talbot who credits himself with first turning on RK to the fact that both his Father and Uncle were killed by conspiracies in 2004! He said RK coming to grips with Talbot's information was rather traumatic and he said his Mother always told the kids to "look ahead and not behind. " As I've said many times, the Kennedy clan have historically been absolutely useless to the cause and work of the JFKA conspiracy community. And their help could have been critical in the 60's but even so in the 70's . The forum is completely behind the Talbot idea that RFK if elected President would vigorously gone after the people behind the JFKA conspiracy, But there are only 2 pieces of evidence to that fact, and one isn't evidence at all. I forget some of the exact details but Talbot used the word of the wife of Walter Sheridan in his interview, I believe in the 90's or early 200's, long after Sheridan died. Talbot seemed to think she was very credible source but previously Di Eugenio has completely slandered Sheridan for his role in a 1967 CBS documentary that soft pedaled the JFKA. So i pointed out the contradiction there and it wasn't well received. The other quoted source that it seemed the forum embraced was a RFK aide, Adam Walinsky But when quoted Walinsky said that the potential RFK Presidential investigation was something that was fraught with danger if it didn't succeed and would require great deliberation if it was to be pursued. That statement was adopted here as if it was evidence that RFK would positively have launched an investigation into his brother's death, but the statement is very much the opposite, and yet it's now been accepted and bandied about the forum as if it's a hard fact! I'm open to any other evidence. But back to the point to Talbot's account, RK was finally considering that there was a conspiracy behind his Father and Uncle's death at 50 years old! And the excuse he gave for not being curious is that his Mother told all the kids to "look forward."?? He obviously just blotted out the entire chapter of his life. What a therapeutically dumbass thing to say, to your kids, but typical of the time. Even though he first started his researching in 2004, It's amazing how people here embrace RK as a real researcher! I'm sure he's now read Douglas, Scott, Talbot and Di Eugenio's, books which in some cases I think RK could come out after reading with a family Messiah complex! JMO He has a real dummied down, simplistic view of his family's legacy. But now it's pretty obvious he's been using the JFKA to fuel his campaign. He's so conveniently dummyed down, playing up his family peacemaker image, to "My Dad and Uncle were peacemakers and loved the U.S. S. R. so with the spirit of world peace we should give Putin everything he wants in Ukraine! This is a f----g travesty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 11 hours ago, Kirk Gallaway said: Ok, right now the good polls are showing the margins to be pretty even, and you're Biden up 12- 15 million. i think most political experts would say you're betting on a sea change. But I see the direction now as Biden. So we'll see on Nov. 5th. Yes indeed. And I admit 15 million is probably a stretch lol. But I feel pretty confident about the 12 million number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Gallaway Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 Actually Matt, I did a little math and it's not such a stretch but not a landslide either. It was the best voter turnout in years in 2020. If most all of those people vote in 24 and we have say, 5 million more new voters from people coming of age to vote. If my scenario,, (which I don't stand firmly behind) of Trump losing a step and falling to 4% behind Biden and didn't advance beyond that point, Biden would win by near 12 million! votes.! After figuring it out, I would say a landslide would be near a 20 million vote margin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted April 10 Author Share Posted April 10 The most devastating political ad since "Willie Horton" in '88. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Griffith Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 I can tell you from my own experience as a Kennedy-Shanahan volunteer in Virginia, that about one-fourth of the volunteers in my area used to be Trump supporters. Mind you, these are volunteers, not just voters. They like RFK Jr. because he strongly backs securing the border, requiring a photo ID to vote, getting the federal budget under control, enforcing laws against hiring illegal immigrants, protecting religious freedom, banning biological males from women's sports, banning transgender surgery and puberty blockers for minors, protecting gun rights, and standing by the state of Israel. They disagree with him on many issues, but they can tolerate those disagreements because of his above-mentioned positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 RFK Jr. Super PAC Gets $5 Million from GOP Megadonor May 21, 2024 at 9:30 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 57 Comments “The super PAC backing Robert F. Kennedy Jr. got another cash infusion from GOP megadonor Tim Mellon in April,” Politico reports. “Mellon is the largest GOP donor this campaign cycle to date, and has now given the American Values 2024 super PAC backing Kennedy’s long-shot independent presidential bid $25 million.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 (edited) Who Is RFK, Jr.'s right-wing MAGA sugar daddy, Tim Mellon? (What would Cesar Chavez have to say about this guy bankrolling RFK, Jr.?) Timothy Mellon - Wikipedia Political donations[edit] In 2010, Mellon donated $1.5 million to Arizona's defense fund to help cover the costs of legal challenges against Arizona SB 1070,[8] the broadest and strictest anti-illegal immigration measure in the United States at the time of its passage.[9][3] It has received national and international attention and has spurred considerable controversy.[10][11] In the 2018 election cycle, Mellon was a major political donor, especially to the Republican-aligned Congressional Leadership Fund.[12] According to OpenSecrets, in 2020 and 2022, he was the 6th and 5th most prolific donor in the US, spending $60 million and $47 million respectively to support Republican candidates and causes.[13] Mellon's self-published autobiography describes his political views.[14][15] Mellon called social safety net programs "Slavery Redux," adding: "For delivering their votes in the Federal Elections, they are awarded with yet more and more freebies: food stamps, cell phones, WIC payments, Obamacare, and on, and on, and on. The largess is funded by the hardworking folks, fewer and fewer in number, who are too honest or too proud to allow themselves to sink into this morass." Mellon wrote that as of 1984 (Reagan's re-election campaign), "Something had obviously gone dreadfully wrong with the Great Society and the Liberal onslaught. Poor people had become no less poor. Black people, in spite of heroic efforts by the 'Establishment' to right the wrongs of the past, became even more belligerent and unwilling to pitch in to improve their own situations," and that "Drugs rose to the level of epidemic. Single parent families became more and more prevalent. The likes of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton pandered endlessly to fan the flames."[14] In August 2021, Mellon donated $53.1 million in stock to the State of Texas to pay for construction of walls along the US–Mexico border.[16] In August 2023, it was revealed that Mellon donated $5 million via a Super PAC to the presidential campaign of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.[17] On April 10, 2024, The New York Times reported that Mellon was the largest single donor to Kennedy's super PAC, giving $20 million over the past year and $15 million to Trump's super PAC MAGA Inc.[18] Edited May 22 by W. Niederhut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Griffith Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 (edited) On 4/6/2024 at 12:49 PM, Cliff Varnell said: Trump Loves That RFK Jr. Is Running for President—and Helping Him Win https://newrepublic.com/post/180190/trump-loves-rfk-jr-running Kinzinger says RFK Jr.’s campaign ‘hijacked by MAGA’ https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4578188-kinzinger-says-rfk-jr-campaign-hijacked-maga/ This is beyond absurd. Trump has been smearing RFK Jr. all over the place. So has Biden. So have the DNC and the RNC. Both Democrats and Republicans have been trying to sabotage his campaign (Democrats have been the worst offenders, but some Republicans are not far behind them in dishonorable conduct toward Kennedy). No rational person who is following RFK Jr.'s campaign and who knows about his positions on the issues could believe that his campaign has been "hijacked by MAGA." Diehard Democrats and Republicans are both proving to be incapable of going against their party. And, just FYI, about 25% of RFK Jr.'s donations are coming from people who donated to Trump in 2016 and/or 2020, while about 35% are coming from people who donated to Hillary and/or Biden, and the rest are coming from people who did not donate to either party in 2016 and/or 2020. Blind partisans just can't wrap their minds around the fact that Kennedy is attracting many people who had given up on the political process. Edited June 19 by Michael Griffith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted July 23 Author Share Posted July 23 On 6/19/2024 at 3:37 AM, Michael Griffith said: This is beyond absurd. RFK Jr reportedly held Trump talks about endorsement and possible job https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/22/rfk-jr-trump-talks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted July 23 Author Share Posted July 23 On 6/19/2024 at 3:37 AM, Michael Griffith said: This is beyond absurd. Michael Griffith owes me an "I stand corrected." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Griffith Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 The "4th Reich"??? Really? That's just nutty and ridiculous. I'm not voting for Trump, but I think it's worth nothing that Trump didn't weaponize the justice system against his enemies. The Democrats did. Trump didn't use a phony dossier to get the FBI to spy on his opponent's campaign. The Democrats did. Trump didn't authorize or endorse massive censorship of opposing views on COVID and the COVID vaccines. The Democrats did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted July 24 Author Share Posted July 24 1 hour ago, Michael Griffith said: The "4th Reich"??? No Michael, you said it was "beyond absurd" to speculate RFKjr was angling for a post in the next Trump Administration. That has now been revealed. I'll deal with the rest of your un-informed post later. Why can't you admit you were wrong about RFKjr's ambitions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 On 7/23/2024 at 6:01 PM, Michael Griffith said: I'm not voting for Trump We don't believe you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/24/rfk-jr-campaign-trump-harris-00170891 "Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is nowhere to be seen. Instead of campaigning, the independent challenger has canceled multiple campaign events and discussed dropping out of the race and backing Trump." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Griffith Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 The "4th Reich"??? Really? That's just nutty and ridiculous. It's the kind of partisan poison that is causing so much division in our country. I'm not voting for Trump, but I think it's worth nothing that Trump didn't weaponize the justice system against his enemies. The Democrats did. Trump didn't use a phony dossier to get the FBI to spy on his opponent's campaign. The Democrats did. Trump didn't authorize or endorse massive censorship of opposing views on COVID and the COVID vaccines. The Democrats did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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