Jean Ceulemans Posted Thursday at 10:53 PM Share Posted Thursday at 10:53 PM 4 hours ago, Matt Allison said: It is next to impossible that a missile could injure the top of Trump's ear without also having a concussive effect. Just to be clear, would/could that be a very mild form of TBI, one that did not cause directly visible effects? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Cole Posted yesterday at 12:19 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:19 AM 3 hours ago, Matt Allison said: No surprise, as the GOP wants to pimp that shooting for everything they think it's worth. Can the concussion of a .50 calibre bullet from a sniper ... Quora https://www.quora.com › Can-the-concussion-of-a-50-c... A near miss is the same as any other bullet making a near miss. The ... No, if the bullet misses, it misses and there is no “concussion” involved. ---30--- Matt--Can you cite any sources at all, that a near miss from an AR-15 round will cause a "concussion"? The literature suggests that is a wive's tale. Can you cite any sources at all that shrapnel, not an actual bullet, took off a small part of the President's ear? I hope the JFKA-RFK1A research community holds themselves to a higher standard. A detached non-partisan analysis and investigation and public discussion of the Trump Assassination Attempt is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted yesterday at 01:44 AM Share Posted yesterday at 01:44 AM (edited) 1 hour ago, Benjamin Cole said: Matt--Can you cite any sources at all, that a near miss from an AR-15 round will cause a "concussion"? Near miss? We are being told Trump was hit in the ear, remember? A bullet fired from an AR15 is a supersonic missile. https://aerospaceweb.org/question/aerodynamics/q0074.shtml At minimum, Trump would have been knocked over if a bullet took out the top part of his ear. Edited yesterday at 01:53 AM by Matt Allison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted yesterday at 02:44 AM Share Posted yesterday at 02:44 AM And we already know someone else was injured without being shot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted yesterday at 02:54 AM Share Posted yesterday at 02:54 AM https://www.wpxi.com/news/local/shots-fired-trump-rally-donald-trump-rushed-off-stage/GRXLQ67PEVDPDKDPNNE3AEGMGU/ "11 Investigates has learned that four Pittsburgh police officers assigned to the former president’s motorcade yesterday suffered minor injuries during the shooting. The four motorcycle officers were part of Donald Trump’s escort to and from the rally in Butler. Sources tell Chief Investigator Rick Earle the officers were just feet away from Trump when shots rang out. The four officers suffered minor injuries from flying debris caused by the bullets. Sources say the officers were hit with either plastic or metal fragments when the bullets struck objects nearby. They were treated at the scene. They were okay to escort Trump back to the airport in Pittsburgh last night after he was treated at Butler Memorial Hospital." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted yesterday at 03:51 AM Share Posted yesterday at 03:51 AM 55 minutes ago, Matt Allison said: https://www.wpxi.com/news/local/shots-fired-trump-rally-donald-trump-rushed-off-stage/GRXLQ67PEVDPDKDPNNE3AEGMGU/ "11 Investigates has learned that four Pittsburgh police officers assigned to the former president’s motorcade yesterday suffered minor injuries during the shooting. The four motorcycle officers were part of Donald Trump’s escort to and from the rally in Butler. Sources tell Chief Investigator Rick Earle the officers were just feet away from Trump when shots rang out. The four officers suffered minor injuries from flying debris caused by the bullets. Sources say the officers were hit with either plastic or metal fragments when the bullets struck objects nearby. They were treated at the scene. They were okay to escort Trump back to the airport in Pittsburgh last night after he was treated at Butler Memorial Hospital." What? Another shooting? Before or after the rally one? You've got to be kidding me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted yesterday at 04:20 AM Share Posted yesterday at 04:20 AM 25 minutes ago, Joe Bauer said: What? Another shooting? Before or after the rally one? You've got to be kidding me. Joe- no, this was the same shooting. 4 police officers as well as Ronny Jackson's nephew were injured by debris/shrapnel. All were close to Trump. All treated in the medical tent and allowed to go home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Speer Posted yesterday at 05:28 AM Share Posted yesterday at 05:28 AM 21 hours ago, Gerry Down said: Well he's right in one sense. People are questioning that, but those people have not provided any evidence of shrapnel heading Trumps way, or where such shrapnel might have come from. There is this thing called science, Gerry. And bullets traveling close to 3,000 fps don't "graze" the skin of the ear. They tear it. The descriptions of Trump's wound rule out his being struck by an actual bullet. And it's good to see the FBI acknowledge this likelihood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted yesterday at 05:30 AM Share Posted yesterday at 05:30 AM Notably not reported by media on the scene. Nothing in the msm about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Speer Posted yesterday at 05:32 AM Share Posted yesterday at 05:32 AM (edited) 2 hours ago, Matt Allison said: https://www.wpxi.com/news/local/shots-fired-trump-rally-donald-trump-rushed-off-stage/GRXLQ67PEVDPDKDPNNE3AEGMGU/ "11 Investigates has learned that four Pittsburgh police officers assigned to the former president’s motorcade yesterday suffered minor injuries during the shooting. The four motorcycle officers were part of Donald Trump’s escort to and from the rally in Butler. Sources tell Chief Investigator Rick Earle the officers were just feet away from Trump when shots rang out. The four officers suffered minor injuries from flying debris caused by the bullets. Sources say the officers were hit with either plastic or metal fragments when the bullets struck objects nearby. They were treated at the scene. They were okay to escort Trump back to the airport in Pittsburgh last night after he was treated at Butler Memorial Hospital." Thanks, Matt. That makes sense. It was a debris wound, not a bullet wound. AR-15 bullets are notoriously weak for full-metal jacketed bullets. If a bullet missed near Trump and hit the stage it would be likely to break into pieces and splatter those around him. Edited yesterday at 05:34 AM by Pat Speer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Reeves Posted yesterday at 06:22 AM Share Posted yesterday at 06:22 AM Kinda funny, in a sick way, of course, that people on here are trying to play this assassination attempt down by continually posting anti-Trump media talking points. This could have been a mass death terrorism attack. This person had a car not far away filled with explosives. He was expecting to survive the assassination attempt and detonate those bombs as the crowd left the venue. To me: as someone that doesn't have a dog in the fight -- American politics is a terrible dehumanizing circus. Some of you should take a look at yourself and wonder is this normal to be electioneering at the expense of your own self-worth. I seriously don't think if the shoe was on the other foot you guys would accept this type of manipulation to happen if it was your guy/gal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted yesterday at 06:43 AM Share Posted yesterday at 06:43 AM 20 minutes ago, Robert Reeves said: Some of you should take a look at yourself and wonder is this normal to be electioneering at the expense of your own self-worth. I seriously don't think if the shoe was on the other foot you guys would accept this type of manipulation to happen if it was your guy/gal. Come talk to us the next time one of your politicians sics a mob on Buckingham Palace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Speer Posted yesterday at 07:26 AM Share Posted yesterday at 07:26 AM 43 minutes ago, Robert Reeves said: Kinda funny, in a sick way, of course, that people on here are trying to play this assassination attempt down by continually posting anti-Trump media talking points. This could have been a mass death terrorism attack. This person had a car not far away filled with explosives. He was expecting to survive the assassination attempt and detonate those bombs as the crowd left the venue. To me: as someone that doesn't have a dog in the fight -- American politics is a terrible dehumanizing circus. Some of you should take a look at yourself and wonder is this normal to be electioneering at the expense of your own self-worth. I seriously don't think if the shoe was on the other foot you guys would accept this type of manipulation to happen if it was your guy/gal. You have it backwards. It seems pretty clear the kid was off and was willing to kill most anyone. So he's no martyr. The point is that Trump and his minions are claiming he took a bullet for democracy, when he is rabidly against democracy and wasn't actually shot. So. it is from an effort to debunk the "talking points" that some, including it now appears the FBI director, have started telling the truth about the assassination attempt--that Trump was not shot in the ear. Now...fragment wound...bullet wound...does it really matter? Not much. But to Trump's people it is a huge deal and he has probably raked in 50 million or so based upon his being shot that he would not have received for simply being injured by a fragment. It's sad but true. If a family member gets killed in combat a family will create a shrine in their honor and their community will put up a plaque with their name on it....but if a family member dies in a car crash while serving overseas...or dies from a flu contracted while serving overseas...there will be no memorial and no plaque and the family will be almost embarrassed by it. In the MAGA-verse REAL men get shot, while wimps get wounded by debris. It's a mind-set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted yesterday at 07:45 AM Share Posted yesterday at 07:45 AM FBI Wants to Quiz Trump Over Truth About ‘Bullet’ Wound https://www.thedailybeast.com/fbi-wants-to-quiz-trump-over-truth-about-bullet-wound?ref=home?ref=home FBI investigators have asked to interview Donald Trump as they determine whether a bullet or a piece of shrapnel hit the former president during an assassination attempt at a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania. According to a Thursday report in The New York Times, citing the F.B.I. and a federal law enforcement official, the agency is keen to talk to Trump in order to get a more detailed version of events surrounding the incident and, according to the official, a more complete record of his injury, The Times notes. It comes as the FBI confirmed that it was examining a number of metal fragments found littered around the stage at the time of the shooting to help determine if a piece of shrapnel was responsible for Trump’s bloodied ear, the Times report noted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Kinaski Posted yesterday at 08:37 AM Share Posted yesterday at 08:37 AM (edited) Five casings were found on the roof https://ibb.co/6Rg2DMt Edited yesterday at 08:38 AM by Karl Kinaski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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