David Josephs

Well done Matt... yes that's No Name Key's Mr. Wilson.

Carolyn Arnold, if you believe her, puts Oswald near the front door around 12:15 possibly later as I believe she said the FBI move her "12:25" statement to 12:15... and while we simply cannot use the images we have to ID the man at the west end of the landing during the assassination, Oswald is a very good candidate imo as both Lovelady and this person are seen together. They've called him Prayerman... Your scenario fits in perfectly with our contention that the FBI manufactured/altered/removed evidence for the sole purpose of getting Oswald convicted... nicely done. Thing is, most the evidence puts him down on the lowest floors as 12:30 rolls around... and no one sees anyone looking like him at all on the 6th floor in those last 15 minutes... so while plausible, it is not supported by the evidence of the conspiracy. This is the image of the man in the west corner of the landing and some composite work I did, since to me the stance and general outline suggests to me it may actually be Oswald... I added detail on the right with an image that just so happened to put Oswald in relatively the same position... Any evidence that anyone said this was Oswald would be dismissed since he HAD to be in the 6th floor window... no other option. Agreed, yet when 1st day evidence says one thing and the same person has a completely different story later... Or like with Boone and Weitzman, their 1st day affidavits are eerily similar in prose and presentation... and why state the caliber in a signed affidavit when it was supposedly announced what the caliber and markings said.. always perplexed me why they were so specific in those docs. FWIW, Hoover initially did not want the FBI to state it was only Oswald in a memo to his Sr. Staff.. Maybe this was CYA as the FBI WCD #1 concludes that Oswald was alone and planned/executed the entire thing himself. I said I personally believe Oswald was the assassin; that the second aspect as to whether he was the only man gives me great concern; that we have several letters, not in the report because we were not able to prove it, written to him from Cuba referring to the job he was going to do, his good marksmanship, and stating when it was all over he would be brought back to Cuba and presented to the chief; but we do not know if the chief was Castro and cannot make an investigation because we have no intelligence operation in Cuba; that I did not put this into the report because we did not have proof of it and didn't want to put speculation in the report; that this was the reason I urged strongly that we not reach conclusion Oswald was the only man.

Prior to Bethesda Pat, who would be an eyewitness to a bullet lodged behind his ear? No surgery in Dallas... and this an internal memo between FBI senior staff... as I've said for years and years... The Evidence IS the Conspiracy... and you think it talks about the events of that day... nice

Really... the FBI disavowed evidence of another bullet... amazing

Thanks Micah... yes very true. At the same time, black on an xray GENERALLY suggests that something is missing, especially if the xray is of a bony structure like the skull, and the amount of black is significantly large. And since they were all supposed to be fully jacketed bullets.. what's with the fragment trail from temple to rear?

Got it Pat... thanks for clarifying... . "He surmised it", right. Because - like - he wasn't inches from the man. Ya see Pat, this isn't about whether you believe or not... but hey, Dennis David, O'Connor and everyone else who was there and drew a wound in the right temple... not the left, not the ear, not the face, but all of them place it at the right temple... are all wrong according to you because you think the shots came from behind with Oswald at the trigger... Thanks for clarifying your POV. And that bullet lodged behind the ear... just another mistake right? 3 shots 2 hits and the magic bullet... O'Connor's bullet removed from the intercostals, Ebersol copying and altering xrays to remove evidence of a frontal shot... smoke and mirrors and more lies... the Nix, Muchmore and Zapruder films, and Moorman's photo... all evidence of an EOP wound... and not the in your face obviousness of a shot to the right temple... Attacking Horne sure does make your explanations and work that much more persuasive, and oodles less biased. You mean this Tom Robinson? What's that say about a wound in the temple? He selling a book too or trying to cement his place in history? And of course David Mawell, Jeremy Gunn & Tim Wray were selling snake oil as well -Visible damage to skull caused by bullet or bullets (as opposed to damage caused by pathologists): ‘Robinson described 3 locations of wounds: -he saw 2 or 3 small perforations or holes in the right cheek during embalming, when formaldehyde seeped through these small wounds and slight discoloration began to occur (and executed a drawing of three slits, or holes, in the right cheek of the President on a photocopy of a frontal photograph of the President); -he described a “blow-out” which consisted of a flap of skin in the right temple of the President’s head, which he believed to be an exit wound based on conversations he heard in the morgue amongst the pathologists (and executed two drawings of this right temporal defect on both a photocopy of a right lateral photograph of the President, and on a right lateral anatomy diagram of the human skull); -he described a large, open head wound in the back of the President’s head, centrally located right between the ears, where the bone was gone, as well as some scalp. He related his opinion that this wound in the back of the President’s head was an entry wound occuring from a bullet fired from behind, based on conversations he heard in the morgue among the pathologists. (Robinson executed two drawings of the hole in the back of the President’s head, one on an anatomy drawing of the posterior skull, and one on an anatomy drawing of the lateral skull. On the annotated lateral skull drawing, the wound in the rear of the head is much larger than the wound in the right temple.) Yes indeed Pat, those crack pathologists who performed that immaculate autopsy... were SURE the shots had come from behind, at the NAVAL hospital, with unnamed brass shouting direction of what to do and not to do. What Fantasy Island episode did you get all this from ? And his HSCA testimony... wonder why they didn't call him to the WC for testimony, huh?

It sounded in that sentence like you actually asked West... and then didn't provide the answer... Who are you asking? And where do you refer to 226? I must have missed it cause all i see is thru 214

When Pat... what time are you talking about... for surely you are aware of the activities that transpired prior to the 8pm start of the autopsy.... You tell me Pat, what is CRENSHAW pointing to in the image above... his butt? oh and btw - IT WAS A COVER-UP... you think there will be an abundance of evidence stating he was shot in the head from the front... You know what Todd did to Perry about the throat wound... Please do play these silly games of "What are you talking about".. since you think everything is on the up-and-up... explain that TERRIBLE WOUND over his left eye and to the anatomical left... oh, and DARK means gone... and explain why FATHER HUBER would lie about it? You also going to work on Dennis David and O'Connor as well... so many non-involved low level people and the doctors at Parkland saying the same thing... and all you have is that time has passed so they are wrong?

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Search here on the forum for "Lunchroom" or "BAKER and TRULY" If there was a lunchroom encounter... we need an explanation for Baker's affidavit from that afternoon.... posted above. As to the pitifully blind Mr. Brown, the signature is in the same writing as the rest of the memo, that's why I included Baker's actual handwriting for comparison... YET ANOTHER Swing-and-a-miss from my favorite Lone Nut Supporter on ignore... you can go back to napping old man... don't hurt yourself

Oh Joe, say it aint so.... there was no lunchroom encounter my good friend... search the forum, we've done a great job proving that fact... No door, no window, no pointed gun, AFFIDAVIT IN ANY FACTTHE STATE OF TEXASCOUNTY OF DALLAS BEFORE ME, Mary Rattan, a Notary Public in and for said County, State of Texas, on this day personally appeared M. L. Baker, Patrolman Dallas Police Department who, after being by me duly sworn, on oath deposes and says: Friday November 22, 1963 I was riding motorcycle escort for the President of the United States. At approximately 12:30 pm I was on Houston Street and the President's car had made a left turn from Houston onto Elm Street. Just as I approached Elm Street and Houston I heard three shots. I realized those shots were rifle shots and I began to try to figure out where they came from. I decided the shots had come from the building on the northwest corner of Elm and Houston. This building is used by the Board of Education for book storage. I jumped off my motor and ran inside the building. As I entered the door I saw several people standing around. I asked these people where the stairs were. A man stepped forward and stated he was the building manager and that he would show me where the stairs were. I followed the man to the rear of the building and he said, "Let's take the elevator." The elevator was hung several floors up so we used the stairs instead. As we reached the third or fourth floor I saw a man walking away from the stairway. I called to the man and he turned around and came back toward me. The manager said, "I know that man, he works here." I then turned the man loose and went up to the top floor. The man I saw was a white man approximately 30 years old, 5'9", 165 pounds, dark hair and wearing a light brown jacket. s/ M. L. Baker SUBSCRIBED AND SWORN BEFORE ME THIS 22 DAY OF November A.D. 1963 /s/ Mary Rattan Notary Public, Dallas County, Texas Does that look like the same writing 11/22/63 vs 09/23/64... days before the WCR is delivered. Doesn't it appear as if the agent himself wrote the document as Baker? Signatures are not even close

Please tell me where he stowed the rifle, where did he reassemble it, and with what tools, how did he zero in the sight which was now just put on the rifle to be such an accurate shot, how did the 4 bullets stay in the clip and how does he load a brass clip and brass casing without leaving a fingerprint how does Williams not see or hear him, why does the fingerprint on the trigger guard change sides how does one reassemble the rifle and only leave a palmprint on all that metal, why the dismissal of Carolyn Arnold who was never called to testify and then there's Brennan - who at over 40 yards cannot see a scope but can provide details... Oswald wore a briarloom button down shirt, reddish brown which I wouldn't describe as "light clothing"... and in reality didn't see a rifle shot... while looking directly at the man I appreciate your take Ben, but some of these questions need answering for him to have actually been in that window...

So many stop so short of the research and digging required to find the roots... So many details, by design, to make it extremely difficult to piece the jigsaw puzzle together... that's why you have to shout out to that first generation of researchers without the world at their fingertips... Difference between snail-mail and email... Reading Weisberg always amazes me, Salandria as well. and that's just the tip of the iceberg... can't name them all here... but thanks to them we can do what we do.

Wonder which bullet this is talking about, in addition to what they claimed was CE399 "Lodged behind the President's ear"... yet the xrays showed no metal in the body. How dat? And if one looks again at the craniotomy process, the scalp is reflected forward and back.. Just like this orientation... I couldn't put the image underneath, at the extreme back of the head due to photographic limitations.. in reality I would rotate the image toward me in a 3D fashion so the hole is more to the rear than I can depict here HUMES: To better examine the situation with regard to the skull, at this time, Boswell and I extended the lacerations of the scalp which were at the margins of this wound, down in the direction of both of the President's ears.

I posted McClellend, here is Crenshaw and Malcolm

Based on what you are saying Pat, when the craniotomy process reaches the point they saw the bone off, the brain would just "fall out" since there'd be no bone to hold it in... What Humes or some other person did to JFK between 6:30 and 8pm is one of the greatest crimes in american history Gee Pat, what happened to that hour? Mr. SPECTER - What time did the autopsy start approximately?Commander HUMES - The president's body was received at 25 minutes before 8, and the autopsy began at approximately 8 p.m. on that evening. Mr. CORNWELL. Approximately what time of the day or night did the autopsy begin?Dr. HUMES. well, the President's body, as I recall, arrived about 7:30 or 7:35 the evening BY MR. GUNN:Q. Dr. Humes, when did you first see the body of President Kennedy?A. I didn't look at my watch, if I even had a watch on, but I would guess it was 6:45 or 7 o'clock, something like that, approximately. I'm sure you know this document... and that another says 6:30 and the FBI says 7:17... or are you going to argue about this evidence too? DO you actually want to debate about what they did to JFK in that hour and change?

No it is not Chris... I would never compare Harvey to himself... only to photos of LEE... and that overlay is made like the first, against the 1959 passport photo, just anchored on his left eye instead of right ear. Let's be clear... all you've shown that Harvey at 17 and Harvey at 24 matches... Harvey on the left... Lee on the right (before the 1959 passport photo)

No it is not Chris... I would never compare Harvey to himself... only to photos of LEE... and that overlay is made like the first, against the 1959 passport photo, just anchored on his left eye instead of right ear. Let's be clear... all you've shown that Harvey at 17 and Harvey at 24 matches... Harvey on the left... Lee on the right (before the 1959 passport photo)

http://www.ronaldecker.com/rubysdog.html I'll keep looking, but simply cannot find where I read that just recently too... I feel terrible as I have a photographic memory and can see the writing, just not the page... All good things in all good time... I hope.

Another POV worth considering... not what I used to make my statement but an interested thread about the subject.. I'll keep looking

The wild thing George is that i literally read about that recently and will have a tough time finding it at the moment... I usually save things like that, even screenshots... I will look at my history... The article said that Sheba was with his other dogs being cared for... I hate when that happens to me, but if I read it, I think I can find it. Please give me a little time

No it is not Chris... I would never compare Harvey to himself... only to photos of LEE... and that overlay is made like the first, against the 1959 passport photo, just anchored on his left eye instead of right ear. Let's be clear... all you've shown that Harvey at 17 and Harvey at 24 matches... Harvey on the left... Lee on the right (before the 1959 passport photo)

The following statements contained within this paper, are my personal story. Anything in previous publications is subject to question and is or has not been, reviewed, approved, or authorized, by me. My purpose in producing this unadulterated information and statement is to clarify previous errors of fact, which have been attributed to me. Therefore, this statement supersedes all previous versions of what others have claimed, speculated, or produced in media and print form, as being my true testimony and story. Any reproduction of this article, in whole or in part, without written permission from the author is prohibited, and will be considered as a copyright violation and subject to the penalties provided by law. I hereby declare the following to be true and correct to the best of my knowledge. Dated this 21st day of November 2004. . . Part 2: Flight to Dallas - November 20-22, 1963. Beginning November 20, 1963, I was assigned to be a co-pilot on a top secret flight, which was attached to a Military Intelligence unit and supported by the CIA. Our mission, we were told, was to 'Abort' a pending attempt on the President's life which was to take place in Dallas. We were contracted as "cut-outs" a system used to shield a secret operation from public exposure. Our team was based out of South Florida. These are his notes about the assassination Statement of TOSH PLUMLEE.docx

A thought I've nurtured all along... The CIA was created to protect, to be the 150 lb Doberman in the public eye so that when anything goes down, the CIA is the first thing to look at... but in reality to protect the military intelligence entities which had been around much much longer: ONI and MID... Navy and Army intel who... as I see it, run all the shows. They are the ones who can make sure everyone never says a word on threat of court-martial, they are the ones whose justice system is of their own creation. They are the ones virtually every CIA agent passes thru first in Mil Intel. They are the ones who loan people to the CIA yet keep their original military status (Lucien Conein for example) ACSI : They are the ones with all the money.... and they are the ones who planned and executed the assassination with total control over most every aspect. the is virtually nothing they don't monitor and know about... it is they who flew AF-1... it is they who over saw the autopsy... And sadly, deep dow, I blieve it was they who organized and implemented the plan to remove JFK from office in favor of LBJ and a war in Vietnam with CIA at point. Miami gang, George Joannides, seems to have had a hand in the process... but personally I don't think the CIA did much without the military ok. agreed.

AHHHHH... no, no, no... he did not come down that ramp my friend... he really did go in the side door, down the stairs, across the vacant, unguarded parking area, thru the railing and was al of a sudden seen at that spot by a number of people... I think you'd enjoy the essay. With TV cameras rolling they were going to switch and use a decoy... In reality Joe, the armored car could not back down the ramp as the ceiling was too low... this diagram is accurate except for the path Ruby is shown taking. Did they actually think they were going to walk him up the ramp to the armored car? John and I wrestled with the timing issue for a long while. Fritz had to have been told that the time was now as he abruptly stopped questioning Oswald and scooted him down to his death... As I wrote, the 3rd floor windows in the courthouse look out over the parking lot, around the corner from WESTBROOK's 3rd floor office was an opening to the 3rd floor of the courts building... All he had to do was to be at that window... Ruby was seen by the DPD earlier that morning and witnesses at his apartment saw a man supposedly Ruby who did not look or act much like Ruby at all... Coincidence within coincidence... I like it. and by the way, his dog was not left in the car as originally thought. He knew where he was going and what he had to do.