Cliff Varnell
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I’ve got A Woman I Know and A Terrible Mistake on order. The “Magic Button” and “How much does Siragusa need to know?” are highly intriguing.
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2 hours ago, Kirk Gallaway said:Incidentally, what's this Gallagher thing?
Noel and Liam Gallagher of Oasis. Jim’s a big early 90’s britpop fan. I like Blur and Suede better. Oasis vocals are too whiny. This is their best performance, a Stones cover.
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Ron, you and Paul have posted terrific info. Thanks!
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13 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:
Kirk's rant is not accurate, (nothing new, remember Brazil?). But I have to look at his stuff when someone else posts it.
It was the Gallagher brothers who first started attacking the thread on political grounds--MAGA, the insurrection.
Apparently Mr. DiEugenio doesn’t realize the insurrection is on-going. Figures. A few years back he didn’t know what a “news cycle” is.
13 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:Which had nothing to do with why Cory--Cory, not Ben-- posted it in the first place.
By Mr. DiEugenio’s decree, we cannot question the motives of politicians?
13 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:This forced Ben to defend himself on those political grounds.
They have been after Ben on political grounds because of his defense of RFK Jr. And this is a continuation of that political attack.
Factually incorrect. I pointed out that the goal of Trump-Johnson-Carlson was to return Trump to power and fire all the career civil servants. They’ll cite Allen Dulles as a rationale for turning the CIA into Trump’s personal intel service.
13 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:But recall, Ben was not even the guy who started the thread.
Cory was and he and Ben were just trying to point out that someone in Washington in high office indicated he was in favor of a conspiracy verdict in the JFK case.
So when Kirk says "Get off it!" I wish the Gallagher brothers would get off it.
I wish Mr. DiEugenio had a better grasp of the political moment.
13 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:I’m They see themselves as policemen as to what is politically correct on the JFK case.
Projection.
13 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:Here they jump out of their car and deliver a pummeling.
Criticism of MAGA politicians — it’s over Mr. DiEugenio’s head?
13 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:It would be one thing if they knew the case exceedingly well and could exercise this presumed authority with some justification.
Hilarious coming from a guy who wrote 6 hours of JFKA documentary without mentioning the Actual Physical Evidence once.
What does CE399 have to do with the murder of JFK?
Nothing. So why does Mr. DiEugenio fixate on it?
13 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:They don't. So they resort to these kinds of tactics.
I mean please.
JFK suffered two wounds of entrance in soft tissue, no exits, no bullets recovered.
How is it the biggest blow hard know-it-alls haven’t figured out 6.5mm FMJ rounds don’t leave such wounds?
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5 hours ago, Cory Santos said:
He can’t fire non-appointed employees so that will not happen.
Who is going to stop him?
5 hours ago, Cory Santos said:Your post suggests the cia is run by career Democrats?
It’s run, I dare say, by people who will refuse to sign loyalty oaths to Trump personally. Trump hates RINOs more than anyone.
5 hours ago, Cory Santos said:Also you don’t think he will win -you tell me several times a week lol- so you have nothing to fear.
I didn’t think he ‘d win in ‘16 — how’d that work out?
RFKjr is polling high with black males — a potential disaster for Dems.
The assassination of JFK was a lurch toward fascism. Maybe RFkjr will help finish the job.
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3 hours ago, Cory Santos said:
I fail to see how publicly blaming a U.S. intelligence agency for the assassination helps one’s political motives.
It will be helpful when Dictator Don fires every career CIA official and replaces them with Trump sycophants.
The insurrection is ongoing. Ron Johnson is on board with treason.
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Over at the EF-JFKA mirror thread Ben Cole wrote:
Look: if Adam Schiff or MTG, or Trump or Biden, or other high public office holders say they read two high-quality books on the JFKA, and they think there is merit in those books, than that is news for the EF-JFKA.
These statements are as rare as hen's teeth.
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Since when do we stop questioning the motives of top politicians?
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The enemy of our enemy is our friend.
For many “The Enemy” is the long dead perpetrators of the JFKA.
Wisconsin senator Ron Johnson has announced himself an adversary of the perpetrators of the JFKA, specifically naming Allen Dulles.
Many here regard Ron Johnson as a new found friend.
Johnson is a member of the MAGA cult, which seeks to return Donald Trump to power with as many government positions as possible filled with Trump sycophants.
They plan on cleaning out the intelligence agencies using the JFKA as a rationale.
The perpetrators of the JFKA are long gone, but Dictator Don is hard at work.
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1 hour ago, Sandy Larsen said:
(I returned this thread back to the JFKA Debate forum, sans the political debate.)
As long we get to keep this full thread in Political Discussions, I think you made an excellent decision, Sandy.
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Two soft tissue entrance wounds, no exits, no bullets.
The Magic Button was pushed on Kennedy.
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FBN-affiliated assassins armed with high tech weapons, from which the CIA sought distance.
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1 hour ago, Paul Brancato said:
I can never figure out how to fit pics, so I’ll attempt to summarize what the author wrote.
in responding to 7 pages of Arnold Silver notes discussing the creation of ZRRIFLE Harvey responded with two pages of his own. The words ‘The Magic Button’ appear at the top of the first page. Right below it Harvey drew a schematic that the author (she shows a picture of this) says looks to her like ‘a pistol-like contraption with a triggering mechanism shooting something forward’. ‘When the Church Committee asked Harvey what the Magic Button was, he said it was probably a euphemism for technology he had discussed with [Technical Services Division Chief] Sidney Gottlieb the day before. The notes also contain an underlined phrase ‘Not a TSD problem’. Harvey told the committee that the operation involved ‘A very sensitive and unusual technique of assassination’.
That’s it! MKNAOMI. Blood soluble rounds.
”Not a TSD problem.” What could that have meant?
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1 hour ago, Benjamin Cole said:
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When a US Senator says he has read important books on the JFKA, and that he gives those books credence, that is a legitimate topic for the EF-JFKA.
Absolutely. Cory should start a new thread and I’ll ridicule the fish taking the bait on the moved thread. I won’t post at all on the new thread.
Win-win!
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1 hour ago, Paul Brancato said:
It was a snippet I read in A Woman I Know, Mary Haverstick author.
That’s a hot topic. Could you post the snippet?
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1 hour ago, Paul Brancato said:
Harvey apparently scribbled a schematic of the magic button - I think it was a weapon
I did not know that! Sounds like MKNAOMI. I wonder how that tied to the FBN.
Does this appear in Strength of the Wolf?
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https://ratical.org/ratville/JFK/MKULTRA/19790410-IviewCharlesSiragusa.pdf
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Siragusa knew George White well. Had visited the West Coast pad once or twice but remembered little of it. He stated that he had the reputation of a "straight guy" in the office; hence George and others would not have taken him into their confidence if any illicit activities had been going on. </q>
So Siragusa had a “straight guy” rep at the FBN. As opposed to all the “crooked guys”?
How much illicit activity did Siragusa turn a blind eye to?
Siragusa resigned from the FBN in November ‘63. I’d speculate he may have helped recruit the JFKA shooter team without knowing the target.
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3 hours ago, Cory Santos said:
If a subject, such as a senator stating the assassination was not a conspiracy, turns into a political argument, might I suggest there are other proper remedial measures rather than removing the relevant subject post. This seems to serve no purpose but to punish relevant posts due to a few comments. Moderate but don’t obliterate. This was extremely important to show the changing perception of what used to be a subject only discussed in the enquirer.
I don’t have a problem with the removal of my posts from the Ron Johnson thread.
If y’all can’t see the ulterior motive of a traitor suddenly embracing Talbot and Douglass, so be it.
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2 hours ago, Cory Santos said:
This should not have been moved
Since I pushed the political angle, go ahead and remove my posts and restore the thread to the JFKA section.
I just call ‘em like I see ‘em. Ron Johnson and Tucker Carlson are playing y’all for chumps.
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6 hours ago, Paul Brancato said:
Love this clip from my all time favorite movies. You think magic button might refer to a high tech weapon?
No, the high tech weapons came from the CIA. I think Harvey was referring to the efficacy of the assassins associated with the FBN.
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According to a recent poll RFKjr takes black votes from Biden. That’s why Fox quit attacking him.
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15 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said:
Egads.
Is everything force-fed through the blue-red pissing wars?
False equivalence. Trump has ordered his allies to block a bill that would provide Israel with 14 billion dollars, 62 billion for Ukraine, and significant tightening of asylum procedures.
Ben, you claim to care about all three. Where’s your denunciation of Dear Leader?
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RFKJr — sleepwalking to the Fourth Reich.
Senator says no way it wasn’t a conspiracy.
in JFK Assassination Debate
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Given that Oasis is horribly over-rated, the label is deeply insulting. I think that’s what Jim was going for.
Nice one, Jim!
That’s my main man Draymond Green! I saw worse assaults on the court back in the 90’s when I was a Dubs season ticket holder. Benoit Benjamin slammed a vicious elbow pile driver on Sarunas Marciulionis’ head that wasn’t even called a foul.